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Topic: Twinflame Astrology: Techniques, Investigations, Validity
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 15, 2014 03:57 PM
T-gem,sorry, don`t know what it is with me and quotes today. lol Iedited it out. Anyway, the name is quite a frequent one in Germany. Unless they are living close to the Dutch border, chances are little that it is really them, though it would be one amazing coincidence.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 15, 2014 03:58 PM
Michelle,what do I need to edit out? I got it btw. IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1161 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted March 15, 2014 03:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Sorry. I corrected it now. Some years ago this song they did was being played all summer long, up and down in every radio station, not to mention my female pupils going gaga. Though most went nuts over his brother, I think.
While they were much too young and it was not my music style and there area lot of "one hit wonders" (they had more though I believe), I once saw the video and something struck a chord. Not strong enough for me to stick to it though. But something seemed *different*
Thanks. Haha I think I know which song you are talking about. Their style changed a LOT after 2009. The music they released then took on a more spiritual tone in general. Can I email you privately? I want to show you some verses of their newer songs. I want to know what you think IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 15, 2014 04:00 PM
Do you want me to post the chart of your astral experience (just from the look of hte planets it makes SO much sense already. Sun-Neptune-conjunction, Moon-Uranus-conjunction, Venus-Jupiter-conjunction in Pisces right on that Chiron-Isis in your composite. lol)IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1660 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted March 15, 2014 04:00 PM
Well I have no idea where they live..but it would be funny if you knew them..didn't realize the name was so common over there..huh...IP: Logged |
micole maree Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Bay Area, CA, USA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted March 15, 2014 04:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Michelle,what do I need to edit out? I got it btw.
I'm an idiot, Ceri. I meant tell me so that *I* can edit it out! I fixed the post, but apparently after you saw it. Thanks for being so quick. I removed it. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 15, 2014 04:02 PM
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micole maree Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Bay Area, CA, USA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted March 15, 2014 04:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Do you want me to post the chart of your astral experience (just from the look of hte planets it makes SO much sense already. Sun-Neptune-conjunction, Moon-Uranus-conjunction, Venus-Jupiter-conjunction in Pisces right on that Chiron-Isis in your composite. lol)
Go for it, Ceri. Is there a way to not see the location on the chart as it posts? Good grief, what's going on with my Mercury today? I'm speaking/writing mush. Do you know what I'm trying to say? Now I'm
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 15, 2014 04:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: Well I have no idea where they live..but it would be funny if you knew them..didn't realize the name was so common over there..huh...
it would indeed be funny, yes. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 2450 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 15, 2014 04:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: This seems to be strongest, though it doesn`t quite fit the pattern.There are the odd exceptions to this pattern though. Can you give me your data?
Semisextile? Ehhhhh. Semisextiles are like lying on the beach with a cool breeze and a beautiful sunset. Sextiles are when your sweetheart calls to say they love you. Trines are when they're lying beside you. The conjunction is when they propose. That's my general feeling of aspects at first brush. You could be enjoying a beautiful experience, with no movement, with a semisextile. Maybe they're THINKING of calling you. Maybe. Get what I mean? I want parallels and contraparallels when I see minor aspects like semisextile and semisquare. Magic might be happening with quintile, septile, and novile - but not semisextile. 30° doesn't do it for me. Now, if we're looking at sheer compatibility? Sure. Hell, Fate and I've got a 1° SSX between our MERCs. I think it's more of a 'preventative' than active energy. We're very much of one-mind. Though his is SAG, and mine's SCO, (isn't it perfect our C-MERC is 0° SAG?) it becomes a non-issue. It's the conflict we DON'T have. The arguments that DON'T take place - unless that MOON-MARS square is going 'hi, there! Remember me?' 😜 Of course, a caveat. We DO have a MERC-MERC parallel. 1° orb, so, not crazy tight, but there. Does that create a more unconscious conjunction feel? Maybe. In my personal experience with semisextile, it's a non-event. There's an ease and breeziness to communications. We may not actively engage, though. But we don't argue, either. Returning to the metaphor, it's a pretty sunset. The breeze is cool. The atmosphere is calm. But nothing is ACTIVELY happening. Follow? For soulmates and, especially, Twin Flames, I want more. I want to see action. I want to see the spectral fingerprints of the Universe on these human affairs. I just don't get that 'involvement' with semisextiles. Or semisquares, either. They're more like ... the same beach, but a storm's moving in. The lovely sunset is blocked by clouds. It's not quite raining yet, but it's threatening. Semisquares have that low friction tension. Like ... 'is it? Or isn't it?'. Just my view, of course. I could get into the sacred geometries of why these tend to be, but I'll refrain. IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1161 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted March 15, 2014 04:09 PM
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Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1161 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted March 15, 2014 04:10 PM
Ceri, I got your email. You can edit it out now. IP: Logged |
micole maree Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Bay Area, CA, USA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted March 15, 2014 04:14 PM
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 15, 2014 04:14 PM
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IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 2450 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 15, 2014 04:22 PM
All right, I'm gonna say it again, before the site goes wonky.Seeing as we're all starting to connect off-site, let's consider corralling over on mine - since it's private, secure, and certainly works in the case of backup, and keeping things - well - private and secure. (3H SCO stellium says what?) We can share, rant and rave with impunity. Some things may be better kept private. Not all things, of course. But some. So. In case you'd like to, the address is: twinflametheory.aubianne.com It's new, the layout isn't my best work, but registration is functional, and if you decide to migrate there, let me know. It works on both mobile devices and PC / Macs. This group is so private, by the way, that it isn't indexed by search engines, and visible ONLY to those who are invited to post in it. The social network is only available to those are logged in to the site and registred. Yeah. I'm careful. IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1660 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted March 15, 2014 04:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: Semisextile? Ehhhhh. Semisextiles are like lying on the beach with a cool breeze and a beautiful sunset. Sextiles are when your sweetheart calls to say they love you. Trines are when they're lying beside you. The conjunction is when they propose. That's my general feeling of aspects at first brush. You could be enjoying a beautiful experience, with no movement, with a semisextile. Maybe they're THINKING of calling you. Maybe. Get what I mean? I want parallels and contraparallels when I see minor aspects like semisextile and semisquare. Magic might be happening with quintile, septile, and novile - but not semisextile. 30° doesn't do it for me. Now, if we're looking at sheer compatibility? Sure. Hell, Fate and I've got a 1° SSX between our MERCs. I think it's more of a 'preventative' than active energy. We're very much of one-mind. Though his is SAG, and mine's SCO, (isn't it perfect our C-MERC is 0° SAG?) it becomes a non-issue. It's the conflict we DON'T have. The arguments that DON'T take place - unless that MOON-MARS square is going 'hi, there! Remember me?' 😜 Of course, a caveat. We DO have a MERC-MERC parallel. 1° orb, so, not crazy tight, but there. Does that create a more unconscious conjunction feel? Maybe. In my personal experience with semisextile, it's a non-event. There's an ease and breeziness to communications. We may not actively engage, though. But we don't argue, either. Returning to the metaphor, it's a pretty sunset. The breeze is cool. The atmosphere is calm. But nothing is ACTIVELY happening. Follow? For soulmates and, especially, Twin Flames, I want more. I want to see action. I want to see the spectral fingerprints of the Universe on these human affairs. I just don't get that 'involvement' with semisextiles. Or semisquares, either. They're more like ... the same beach, but a storm's moving in. The lovely sunset is blocked by clouds. It's not quite raining yet, but it's threatening. Semisquares have that low friction tension. Like ... 'is it? Or isn't it?'. Just my view, of course. I could get into the sacred geometries of why these tend to be, but I'll refrain.
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micole maree Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Bay Area, CA, USA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted March 15, 2014 04:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: michelle [/URL]
Boy, is that loaded. Here are a few more details from our natals. I'll have to edit in a few times to get them all. His MARS is conjunct IC. I believe his NEPTUNE is conjunct MC. The MARS here is conjunct my name asteroid conjunct his KAALI. My SATURN/VX conjunct his SN is conjunct PLUTO. SATURN conjunct my NN. MOON/URANUS here opposed my MOON. SPIRIT opposed HYPNO/HEKATE. JUNO conjunct EROS quincunx VALENTINE. All of this does seem to indicate a spiritual and physical connection in another dimension, doesn't it? And I just LOVE that JUNO/EROS!!!! IP: Logged |
page one Knowflake Posts: 343 From: USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted March 15, 2014 04:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: Returning to the metaphor, it's a pretty sunset. The breeze is cool. The atmosphere is calm. But nothing is ACTIVELY happening. Follow?For soulmates and, especially, Twin Flames, I want more. I want to see action. I want to see the spectral fingerprints of the Universe on these human affairs.
This is actually an interesting idea and part of the problem I have with the idea of twin flames. If you are truly one, I would think you don't really need to act on it, it's fine as it is, whatever it is. If you aren't "the same", if the dynamic between you is more complementary, there's probably a stronger drive to act upon it. Which makes me wonder about some of the famous examples of what are being defined as "twin flame relationships"--the Newmans, the Cashes, etc. Do they really manifest a "we are one" energy, or is it more dynamic than that? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 15, 2014 04:31 PM
Indigo, intriguing post
BUT.... well,
"emisextile? Ehhhhh. Semisextiles are like lying on the beach with a cool breeze and a beautiful sunset." No, semisextiles aren`t that pleasant. People think that, yes, because someone called them semi-sextile. But actually they are 12t/h harmonic aspects, like the quinkunx. They are to the conjunction what the quinkunx is to the opposition, the last step before (or after) graduation/ birthing/ completion. Unlike the quinkunx though, semisextiles seem to be more on the invisible side. I never relaly cared muchf or them either, though. lol "The conjunction is when they propose." Actually I was more thinking about this is when instead of beside you, they are inside you.
Kidding - semi-kidding. But I find proposing does not quite express the merging/ fusion that actually happens with the conjunctio. Not just a plan, it just is. Actually it is not even an aspect, it is a condition. "I want parallels and contraparallels when I see minor aspects like semisextile and semisquare." With the semisextile, yes, and you just might get it.
semisquare is different, more dynamic, but I usually want to see it as part of a midpoint pattern, too. Mr Sag`s Venus is semisquare my Neptune and NN AND my Jupiter. Usually I would not think of it as a big deal, just in this case it IS a big deal. my Jupiter squares my Neptune-NN exactly. Which means that his Venus gets into the forcefield, focusing it like a laserbeam, or in astroterms his Venus lies at the exact midpoint of my Jupiter/Neptune and Jupiter/NN. His Venus also lies at the exact midpoint of my Moon/Venus, but that happens because my Venus and Moon are novile each other. 9th harmonic aspect. Minor maybe, subtle, refined, but actually surprisingly clear in its manifestations. Joy, contentment, harmony, similiar to a subtle trine, just with more purpose somehow, more direction. Maybe that is why the Vedic think of the 9th harmonic asepcts as aspects of the soul(mate). Since his Juno is opposite his Venus it of course means that his Juno is equally at the mentioned midpoints in my chart Jupier/Neptune, Jupiter/NN, Venus/Moon - just on the far midpoint.
Actually his Juno makes a 9th harmonic triangle with my Moon and Venus. I like it. A lot of 9th harmonic business right there. Which is nice. I prefer it to too many semisquares. lol
"30° doesn't do it for me." No, for me neither, not really.
The seed might be prepared to be getting planted, but that is all just so wishy-washy to me somehow. "Does that create a more unconscious conjunction feel?
Maybe." I think so. "n my personal experience with semisextile, it's a non-event. There's an ease and breeziness to communications. We may not actively engage, though. But we don't argue, either."
No I do not think it is an easy-breezy aspect. Though the other thing yes, I see that. no arguing does not equal easy communication though. or maybe it does feel easy because you donīt have to actively deal with the energy, I don`t know. only my opinion of course. However yes, especially with soulmates and twinflames i want to see the ARROW-aspects. The aspects that point at each other saying YOU
And not YOU .... and maybe you over there, too. Only two aspects that are YOU-in capital letters.
Two aspects. Plus cp and p and antiscion/ contrascion maybe. Pointers. With a laserbeam.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 15, 2014 04:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: What's the max degree orb for a parallel?
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tgem Knowflake Posts: 1660 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted March 15, 2014 04:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Indigo, intriguing post
BUT.... well,
"emisextile? Ehhhhh. Semisextiles are like lying on the beach with a cool breeze and a beautiful sunset." No, semisextiles aren`t that pleasant. People think that, yes, because someone called them semi-sextile. But actually they are 12t/h harmonic aspects, like the quinkunx. They are to the conjunction what the quinkunx is to the opposition, the last step before (or after) graduation/ birthing/ completion. Unlike the quinkunx though, semisextiles seem to be more on the invisible side. I never relaly cared muchf or them either, though. lol "The conjunction is when they propose." Actually I was more thinking about this is when instead of beside you, they are inside you.
Kidding - semi-kidding. But I find proposing does not quite express the merging/ fusion that actually happens with the conjunctio. Not just a plan, it just is. Actually it is not even an aspect, it is a condition. "I want parallels and contraparallels when I see minor aspects like semisextile and semisquare." With the semisextile, yes, and you just might get it.
semisquare is different, more dynamic, but I usually want to see it as part of a midpoint pattern, too. Mr Sag`s Venus is semisquare my Neptune and NN AND my Jupiter. Usually I would not think of it as a big deal, just in this case it IS a big deal. my Jupiter squares my Neptune-NN exactly. Which means that his Venus gets into the forcefield, focusing it like a laserbeam, or in astroterms his Venus lies at the exact midpoint of my Jupiter/Neptune and Jupiter/NN. His Venus also lies at the exact midpoint of my Moon/Venus, but that happens because my Venus and Moon are novile each other. 9th harmonic aspect. Minor maybe, subtle, refined, but actually surprisingly clear in its manifestations. Joy, contentment, harmony, similiar to a subtle trine, just with more purpose somehow, more direction. Maybe that is why the Vedic think of the 9th harmonic asepcts as aspects of the soul(mate). Since his Juno is opposite his Venus it of course means that his Juno is equally at the mentioned midpoints in my chart Jupier/Neptune, Jupiter/NN, Venus/Moon - just on the far midpoint.
Actually his Juno makes a 9th harmonic triangle with my Moon and Venus. I like it. A lot of 9th harmonic business right there. Which is nice. I prefer it to too many semisquares. lol
"30° doesn't do it for me." No, for me neither, not really.
The seed might be prepared to be getting planted, but that is all just so wishy-washy to me somehow. "Does that create a more unconscious conjunction feel?
Maybe." I think so. "n my personal experience with semisextile, it's a non-event. There's an ease and breeziness to communications. We may not actively engage, though. But we don't argue, either."
No I do not think it is an easy-breezy aspect. Though the other thing yes, I see that. no arguing does not equal easy communication though. or maybe it does feel easy because you donīt have to actively deal with the energy, I don`t know. only my opinion of course. However yes, especially with soulmates and twinflames i want to see the ARROW-aspects. The aspects that point at each other saying YOU
And not YOU .... and maybe you over there, too. Only two aspects that are YOU-in capital letters.
Two aspects. Plus cp and p and antiscion/ contrascion maybe. Pointers. With a laserbeam.
Ok, Indigo wants proposals so here we go: Draco composite: alma parallel Juno exact (almost at 1) Helio composite: alma parallel Juno (1) Tropical composite: alma parallel Juno (2) This fits a pattern as we have Isis conjunct Osiris in all three (tropical, Helio and Draco) composites.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 15, 2014 04:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: Ok, Indigo wants proposals so here we go: Draco composite: alma parallel Juno exact (almost at 1) Helio composite: alma parallel Juno (1) Tropical composite: alma parallel Juno (2)This fits a pattern as we have Isis conjunct Osiris in all three (tropical, Helio and Draco) composites.
Cool. Lets keep an eye on these parallels. 2 degree for paralel is too wide though. Actually, let`s not forget there are only 46° (approximately( in declination, but 360° in longitude. So the chance to have a parallel is greater than a conjunction. On the other hand asteroids are not tied to the ecliptic necessarily, they can get far oob, so...
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micole maree Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Bay Area, CA, USA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted March 15, 2014 04:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"The conjunction is when they propose." Actually I was more thinking about this is when instead of beside you, they are inside you.
Howling here. I'll never be able to think about conjunctions in the same light again. Just love those conjunctions... IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 2450 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 15, 2014 04:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: What's the max degree orb for a parallel?
Variable. Per usual, we just love exactness, heh, so, any parallel that's 0°25 will have me sitting much straighter. But I'm a bit of a rebel, too. KT Boeher, (or 'auntie KT' as I was fortunate to have known her), taught me that you're reaching past 2°00, and, honestly, the effect weakens beyond 1°30. I've occasionally used those barn-wide 2°00 orbs in the case of a strong configuration that has a clearly established theme. THEN you might skate by with adding in a 2°00 parallel to buff up a tight minor aspect. And I mean tight. Keep those minors less than 1°25, too. For example: In your case, if ALMA and JUNO are actively patterned across multiple zodiacal systems, and strong in natal, I might go for a 1°45. That semisextile looks close to 0°25 - else we wouldn't even be debating it. Heh. Furthermore, is there linkage through a 'third-party' point and aspect? Like a Soulmate Pairing? Does his ALMA aspect his PSYCHE, and your JUNO your EROS? Does his JUNO hit your PSYCHE? His EROS your ALMA? Is the 7R involved? Etc. IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1660 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted March 15, 2014 04:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by micole maree: Howling here. I'll never be able to think about conjunctions in the same light again. Just love those conjunctions... 👍👍😈
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