posted March 18, 2014 08:18 AM            

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What a rocking thread!

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posted March 18, 2014 08:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, do that!
Gives you an excuse to talk to him, too.

And after that, maybe donīt disappear for the next 2 years. Learn from my mistakes.

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posted March 18, 2014 08:34 AM            

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But like Indigo said, You're READY!! You're looking great, you're feeling great...it's time! I can't wait to hear how things progress

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posted March 18, 2014 08:52 AM            

In some posts, I saw plenty of practical wisdom too, the what if's etc.
I am 99% sure that my wife is not my TF but a karmic Soulmate. Lets say my TF pops into my life, what do I do?
I go to sleep alone at night, my shoulders need space. When I wake up, my wife is on the right, my son is on my back and my daughter is on the left and I have to wake up very, very slowly. I do not think I can give this up for a TF.

A must watch movie for the love struck is "Mr Destiny". In that, the hero James Belushi convinces his TF [played by Linda Hamilton] in the parallel life about their marriage. Yet she politely refuses his overtures and sticks to her husband even though she is convinced.
In another Twin Flame Theme movie, "Serendipity",
the TFs have to go through other relationships before serendipitously getting together.

In the movie "Avatar", the hero and the Tribal Chieftan's daughter are Twin Flames, and thus he is able to "Soul Jump" into the Alien Body than just rely on technology.

In the highest of Realms, "Twin Souls" are always together like Binary Stars. Their role as Twin Flame in Physical Realms is primarily the Awakening of the Heart Chakra, and to initiate past life recalls as well as awareness of Immortality.

One can love a Soul Mate as much as a TF and receive love from even a non Soul Mate [a fresh new relationship] when the Heart Chakra is awakened. Who knows, the TF may be "Soul jumping" or "Walking In".

I feel one should never compromise on relationships for fear of missing out on the TF. One should never miss out on loving or receiving love just because we have not discovered our TF.
The difficulty is the emotional pain on a break up but there are TF's too who have run away. The Physical Realm with all its karmic rules is no playground. Illusory maybe but it is more of an Energetic Battleground.

Without the breakups, we will not learn the lesson of unconditional forgiveness, nor the lesson of Emotional Recovery.

Just my 2 cents

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posted March 18, 2014 08:54 AM            

Check it out...I think he believes this is essential in conjunction with the astrological factors to confirm a TF.

I was thinking that dream about me, Cusp and his girls the other night might have been some kind of precognition? The thought actually crossed my mind the morning after but it was ironic IQ mentioned it in that thread this morning. I just find it interesting it happened on the 4 year anniversary of our meeting and like I said, I don't usually dream about him.

I'd really be interested to hear Indigo's take as well as she seems to be getting "feelings" about things.

posted March 18, 2014 09:37 AM            

Solar Plexus sensations are fine when the Ego is felt as making way for a Higher Awakening. Otherwise, it is an Energy Trap where an Archon sponsored manipulation of love followed by heart break will lead to depression and "canned corn" [ref: Twin peaks] for the Archons via their Dugpas/ETs whatever Evil hides in the Astral.

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posted March 18, 2014 10:16 AM            

I agree with so much of you, but you already know that.

As you may have noticed I have refrained from calling Mr Sag my twinflame for most of the thread, but even if the astrology is not as astounding, he is really a category of his own and his role in my life.

There is just so much - I was trying to compile the experiences, going even back BEFORE meeting him/ even just before seeing him, but I have the feeling it would become a novel, so I did not complete it yesterday-, as much as I was drawn *compulsively* to Paul, Andy, and Jude and as amazing the spiritual experiences were I had relating to them, the telepathy and alll that dream-stuff, but Mr Sag?

The curious thing is it did not start out as a crush, it did not feel "romantic", it was just "THERE", I donīt know how to explain it. An instinctive visceral response that I could not control or suppress or rationalize away, though I could not really understand what it was either.
It felt like happening on a deeply cellular level, something, not just emotional, but something different.

And it never made any sense to me, as I have never met anyone who seemed to be so much here in the present, so not-spiritual (at least not in a lofty detached way - apparently he is not quite as unspiritual though, or why would he have a Buddha-statue near his piano? But who knows?).

It just didnīt make sense to me, why he should be the trigger of all of this.

"I would give more importance to the dreams or Signs that come before the very first meeting/interaction."
it is funny that you metnion this.

From being a child I was drawn to his first name, it was quite hilarious. And as a matter of fact just maybe a year or so I *heard* his name int he back of my mind.

With that in mind, I also found it hilarious when I realized that he has been gathering so many women with my name around him. From his assistants to friends and fans.
But maybe that is just because my name in his chart is conjunct his EROS by one degree, and opposing his name in his chart-conjunct AMOR-Mars-Jupiter.

As for experiences before seeing him, well a few weeks before that I was suddenly *sensing* a certain energy around, especially after coming out of a meditation. I even wrote about that to a friend of mine, calling him "Mystery Man". It made me smile, my weird perception of things. I did not think he was real.
and then a week or so about seeing him I was having a past life dream set in Druidan times; the intriguing thing is that my friend was telling me the next day, that she had been having a vision about me and a man, and was describing the exact same dream I have had, jsut from HER perspective.

Yeah, and only days later I saw him first.
I originally did not even want to attend this concert, but my friend persuaded me, and there was something strange about reading his name before. I had never really read it before, did not know of him before,b ut that name?
It made so many bells go off instantly and simultaneously, that of course I became curious about the guy whose name seemed to hit some sort of inner frequency inside of me, though I did not know him.

Maybe that was just because of the letters of his name. I did not realize back then, but we share most of the letters in our names with the exception of a few.
And his whole name contains my first name, while my whole name contains his last name.

"Some of you mentioned the jolt to the Solar Plexus. I would prefer a jolt to the Heart Chakra. "
Yes, I mentioned it. Actually it was a simultaneous jolt to solar plexus, heart chakra, third eye chakra and possibly crown chakra (at least it was when my crown chakra started to tingle,w hich it does occasionally now,t oo).
And the jolt was not really a jolt that hit and then faded again,b ut this jolting resulted into the energy starting to circle pretty much through all my system. And that is true even nowadays. It is not always in the same strenght, but this smooth electric current flowing through all my chakras is there always.

"Other Signs are sensations of currents up and down the Spine,"
Tell me about it. After meeting him and talking to him first, it was so strong, everything you described, the electric stream of energy, the currents up and down the spine, the tingling and vibrating, physically.

Actually what you did not mention, and maybe it does not have anything to do with it, but what it initiated in me was also an altered state of consciousness. Being awake and asleep at the same time, like perceiving things from a different dimensional layer of reality, a floating sensation, and also, hearing his voice int he back of my mind, as real as if you overhear some whispering/ chattering in a distance.

Of course when this happened the first time, It hought I was having a stroke and was going to die. Luckily I did not die. lol
And by now I have come to even expect these symptoms after beeing in physical proximity, and they do not scare me but rather energize me.

THIS kind of experience is something that is completely unique to my connection/ relation to him. No matter how crazy I was for any of the other guys, THAT I never experienced before.

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sorry now it has become a novel nevertheless.

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It might sound very strange, but hsi impact on my life was such that it brought with him an absolutely exhilarating feeling of "freedom", even "carefreeness".
Something I had forgotten about, how amazing it can feel to just "be" and go with the flow and being present in every single moment.

I see the world in a very different light now, maybe how I have seen it as a child, and often I am simply bubbling over with joy and warmth that cannot be contained.

And I believe that is what made it so easy to shed all this weight.

posted March 18, 2014 10:21 AM            

But, I am Cancer ASC and very strongly Piscean/Neptunian.

I don't recall having a dream before I met him though...

posted March 18, 2014 10:26 AM            

Yes I can see why you would have thought he had a Leo Asc, he does give off a very sunny vibe lol.

I got Virgo guy's Asc wrong too before I found out his birth time.
I was always under he impression he was an Aqua Asc, because of his unique style and such. (Still don't know what in his chart could be responsible for that).
Maybe its his Sun/Asc conjunction that gives him that "standing out of the crowd" type of quality lol.

posted March 18, 2014 10:33 AM            

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IQ - my sensations are definitely to the heart chakra..not the solar plexis. I am confident my heart chakra was activated after I met this man...and I can also definitely confirm my spiritual awakening (multi-demensional awakening) occurred after I met him.

But, I am Cancer ASC and very strongly Piscean/Neptunian.

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I second the heart-chakra thing.
Initially it was only my heart chakra that felt these sensations, but now it seems that they "evolved" and spread out everywhere else.
Though in my heart-chakra its still felt the strongest.

I have Cancer/Mars on cusp of 11th/12th houses.
My chart is predominantly water.

EDIT:
I did dream of him just weeks before coming across him.
But at that time I didn't know it was him, until much later.
He did feel very familiar though, of course, but I can't say if this familiarity was from the dream I had or from elsewhere lol...
Definitely was a strong recognition, felt like I had know him my whole life.

I would even draw the same pictures of a face before I knew of him, which strikingly resembles him.

posted March 18, 2014 10:36 AM            

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That is also why I can share here these most intimate experience (I mean real-time-zone or etheric-body-sex? Hello? Can it get more intimate or weirder or sillier - at least in the perspective of a "realist"?)
I can do that now though because I feel free and at one with myself, and that means one with everything. It is not easy to explain, but it is nice to be centred for once.

And I know what ever is going to happen, it will be alright and exactly what is supposed to happen in the right time.

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Me too.
I'm glad I have you all to share this with.
Or I would have gone even more crazy lol, holding everything in, without knowing there are other who experiencing similar things.

posted March 18, 2014 12:45 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
What a rocking thread!

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It's great to see you here, iQ!

Your name has come up frequently. "What did iQ say?", as we both study the aspects (for me, that's muddle) and share our stories on our way through this exploration of this experience.

posted March 18, 2014 12:48 PM            

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Last night was a strange one, too.

I have an electric piano in my sleeping room. Sometimes during summer, when the sun is falling onto it, it ocasionally makes sounds, crackling, like static discharges. This happens because of the warmth making things expand a little I think.

anyway this does not happen at night (no sun, no increase in warmth, no reason for discharge).
And well, last night I was being ripped out of my sleep by this piano making these very loud noises, twice. Actually it did not sound so much like discharge-noise, but as if someone was trying to lift the cover over the keys but failed to do so, so it fell down again.

I was still half asleep, so I guess I must have still been in dreammode but I was mumbling halfloud:

"Really, honey? Playing the piano at 4 a.m.? You can`t be serious!"

I fell asleep again nevertheless, never mind I was having just one and a half hour more of sleep ahead of me, and i was dreaming of hearing a song.
I very very rarely hear songs in my sleep. I mean I sometimes know that i have heard them and remember them,b ut this was me physically hearing the song (maybe my radio had already gone off, and I built it into my sleep, but I donīt do that usually either).

The song I was dreaming of was actually from "blues Brothers" as it was performed by Jon Belushi.
I am sure you know it, it certainly made me smile, because of the upbeat tempo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHV0zs0kVGg

I still managed to keep on sleeping, and then I was dreaming of Mr Sag, who was with me in my room somehow, and actually I was getting ready and putting on my shoes. He was hesitating a little, not because he did not want me to come with him, but he was having something to do, and it was his mess he created and had to deal with it, and untangle the threads.
And for some reason he apparently thought of me as too "innocent" and "pure" so he didn`t want to pull me into this mess of his. I didn`t had any blame in this, so I didnīt need to deal with this crap either.

Well, I was looking at him and said: "Forget it. I`m coming with you. Weīre in this together."

He warned me that life would be completely changed.

and I looked at him and said: "So what are we waiting for? Let`s get moving. Timeīs a wasting."

And since I had finished putting on my shoes, I was getting up, literlaly clapping my hands, which probably was the noise that bolted me awake.

It was quite a dream. And that was rather unusual behaviour of mine int his dream. I am usually not that determined and wanting to get into action. lol

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I'm loving this. The sense of your connectness, partnership. I love what you said to him when the piano started doing its thing! "Really, honey?..."

Lovely. All of it.

posted March 18, 2014 12:49 PM            

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Hi IQ! Thanks for popping in . How good are you at guessing ASC's? LOL

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posted March 18, 2014 01:50 PM            

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Hi TGem,
Girls with excessive Pisces/Cancer and even Scorpio will get dreams about people the moment they interact with them. So to ensure there is objective clarity for all, I would give more importance to the dreams or Signs that come before the very first meeting/interaction.
Some of you mentioned the jolt to the Solar Plexus. I would prefer a jolt to the Heart Chakra. Other Signs are sensations of currents up and down the Spine, regular goosebumps even on hearing the voice, strong sensation in the temples and tingling on the finger tips.
And all of this without feeling horny

Solar Plexus sensations are fine when the Ego is felt as making way for a Higher Awakening. Otherwise, it is an Energy Trap where an Archon sponsored manipulation of love followed by heart break will lead to depression and "canned corn" [ref: Twin peaks] for the Archons via their Dugpas/ETs whatever Evil hides in the Astral.

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iQ, thank you for this. I had to laugh at parts of it. (The "feeling horny"!)

I'll try to briefly lay this out, in order. However, brevity isn't usually my strong point! <<Edit: Ceri, you aren't alone. I wrote a novel as well!>>

Deja vu around Jace's name over twenty years ago.

I like Ceri's words "inner frequency"; strange inner sense of "something" resonating was triggered by hearing his full name about six years later, every time I heard it.

Heart pain, tears, SO deeply affected. upon hearing of his heartbreak while his marriage broke up, before meeting him.

Jolt to solar plexus as I glimpsed him from the back for the first time, before knowing who he was.

Heart-fluttering, smaller solar plexus jolt when I saw him at a social function. I couldn't keep my eyes away from him. Heart seized and fluttered every time my eyes landed on him that night.

Picked up on his pain while he was parked near where I was working, with a full view of him. My heart hurt with him.

Picked up on both his feeling stung and his pleasure (both caused by me) at a social function. Again, my heart was affected.

His voice on the phone or on our answering machine caused wild heart stutters. His voice always seemed strangely choked when talking with me or calling our home.

"Awakening" dreams began. Sexual, emotional. I believe now that that was Kundalini energy being ignited.

I started to explore spirituality, resumed studying astrology, started hearing internal guidance that I needed to leave my marriage.

I started using a guided meditation to explore past lives. Jace and I have shared many. The farthest back that I have found at this point are ancient Greece and a Roman war. The ancient Greek life was lovely. The love between us was so strong, so THERE. He left to go to war and never returned. Such heartbreak and loss. The Roman war one included stunning betrayal. They've all been fascinating. Most have had heartbreak of some kind or another though.

Sent a letter of apology to him to clear my heart. In a half-asleep state, I picked up on his feelings in my HEART, a lightness, a delight, and I KNEW I had been forgiven.

While on vacation in the same location as Jace, I felt his longing for his partner so deeply that I was overcome with uncontrollable tears.

Two weeks later, an astral meeting, clearly sexual. I awakened knowing he had "seen" me. His shock triggered my thud back into wakefulness.

Left my marriage and synchronicities started. Oddly enough, they started on the DAY I left, as I began moving belongings. I saw him in his vehicle EVERYWHERE. (I had never run across him before while out and about.) If I took a walk, I saw him in his truck; I could "feel" him coming towards me on the street.

While in his place of business, I looked up as he was approaching my husband's desk. Our eyes locked. This was the first time he had ever actually looked into my eyes. He usually avoided my gaze. (Why?) I couldn't look away. I felt as though something behind our eyes connected and I saw the same vulnerability and wonder and amazement I felt. The activity and sound around us muted and froze while our eyes clung. A random thought zapped me and I started and broke eye contact. I have always considered this our "first meeting"; maybe that's inaccurate since I was around him prior to this. But he never met my eyes.

More astral meetings. I have recollection of two more, much weaker recollection than the first. But I know it scared him.

While walking down the main drag where his business was located, a few blocks away, an internal voice told me to "Slow down". I didn't understand but I obeyed. As I quickened my pace a bit later, again, I heard, "Slow down". So I slowed down. I arrived at the exit to the business EXACTLY as Jace's truck pulled to a stop there. If I had kept to my quickened pace, I would have missed him. Yes, I waved.

I could feel the fear he had for me after the astral meetings. And there was no way he could miss the number of times we ran across each other while driving or while I was walking and he was driving; such split second timing was involved. He stayed in his office when I visited my ex. I felt his fear clearly. One night I had dropped in briefly and I could feel him, hear the thoughts: "I'm going to go out there and say "Hi". There's nothing to be afraid of. She's not going to best me." He did. He came out of the office within seconds, cleaning his glasses. (Instinctively, I knew that was a prop, to cover his nerves.)

I was awakened several times, in the dead of night, from the feeling of his pain flooding my heart chakra. He was longing for his partner.

I heard through my ex that Jace developed a new routine that suggested a girlfriend, but he didn't share with his co-workers. (My ex at the time.) I could feel his distraction and infatuation.

A few weeks later, I was awakened by his deep pain again. I could feel it - a bad break-up. SO MUCH PAIN. God. A day later, it felt like rage. A day after that, it felt like resolve. I heard the words "F*** women". And I heard through that grapevine that that was exactly what he was doing. Dating up a storm, getting laid, woman after woman after woman. It took a couple of months for that rage to die down.

Meanwhile, I had lost a ton of weight. I stopped by my ex's place of business because we were attending a function with our daughter. I was wearing form-fitting clothing including a flattering top in shades of black and deep autumn red that was sexy without being revealing. Jace walked by me and I was hit with this load of sexual attraction. The HEAT was so intense that I felt my own cheeks flush. But it wasn't mine. HIS. He was attracted to me. He went in and out of the building several times, always walking by me. I could "feel" that he was making these trips to check me out, faking busy-ness. It was pretty stunning, really. Feeling his attraction to me, knowing his thoughts. It was a shift from his fear to his appreciation of me as a woman. Heady stuff.

There were more synchronicities, some unbelievable, until they culminated in one particular day. The same day I heard that he met "a woman". (That woman became his wife.) On the very day we had had the biggest synchronicity yet. I've always felt that Spirit was trying to yell at him, "Wait! Notice this! Pay attention!".

The telepathic link lasted for a lot longer while I pleaded for it to be removed. It was too hard to be linked this way while he was involved with another woman. I *knew* when he was making love with her. I *knew* too much.

After months of resisting his Facebook wall, I purposely checked it, praying over photos of he and his woman for their happiness and asking for Spirit to release me from this link. I did that, with so much pain, even as I questioned that pain. He had never been in my life, never been "mine". And yet the pain was there. And is there.

I was awakened the next morning by his intense fear. He knew I had checked his wall. (A couple of years ago, Facebook used to make friend recommendations to users, and included people who had visited the page. I knew he had clicked the link "Find Friends" and my name showed up.) I immediately sent calming vibes to him and asked God to please let him know I wasn't a stalker and I meant him no harm. It took weeks for me to feel that he had let this fear fade.

I was granted peace. Spirit is no longer setting up synchronicities with him. My psychic link with him was ended, until I just opened it up again recently. It's blurrier now though. I have avoided his Facebook.

Until recently, when I did an internet search for photos of him for Indigo (trying to nail down an ascendant). And got hit in the heart again. Hard. That recognition, that whole vulnerable heart chakra thing, when I see his photo is intense.

A series of synchronicities happened around him just following this. I had asked for a sign about him. I *immediately* saw unexpected mentions of his business. I turned on the radio, which I never do. And the next commercial was his. Hearing his voice sent my heart soaring/sinking again. These signs all took place within five minutes.

The connection is still there.

I don't think I'm only reading/hearing what I want to hear when I speak to your words. In my case, the solar plexus jolt was there with the first visual of him. Some of that was present at the second visual, but most of it was in my heart. It has been in my heart ever since. And yes, spiritual awakening has been a huge part of my life since the "awakening" dreams of him.

There have been many symbolic dreams of him since the initial awakening dreams. And images that have come to me during meditation, out of the blue.

The most recent meditative images were tied, one after the other. In one, we were sitting on a bench near each other. He wss looking at me, his arm on the back of the bench. He leaned toward me, and then scooted towards me. The interest in and focus on me was clear. The second image immediately following was of me walking and him following just slightly behind me, his gaze turned towards and trained on me. The message came through clearly right on top of these images. He is moving towards me. I am to lead. He will follow.

It might sound too pat, but this wasn't contrived by a grasping, hopeful mind. It simply WAS.

If I can find a way to get his ASC, I will contact you for a chart comparison, iQ. All of these odd things I've experienced seem to fit the "twin flame experience". The astrology however, looks somewhat weak to me.

posted March 18, 2014 03:02 PM            

IndigoDirae, thanks for your invitation to join the thread and for your answer on the Venus/Mars soulmates thread.

I'd like to ask all of you who believe they've met their twinflame (since I think I'm in a similar situation) if you prepare for the so called "final meeting" with him/her? And if so, how do you do it?

I believe if we come to realize we've met our twinflame, we begin to prepare for being with him/her, as it is described in the stages of a twinflame encounter. Maybe it will be in this life, or maybe the next? Who knows... Nevertheless, do you prepare?