posted March 26, 2014 07:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Heartsong11:
Great question.
And great info Ceridwen as I've been wondering about a person's natal chart.

The person I consider a soulmate (at very least) has indications in his natal chart. He has a close conjunction of Isis and Osiris, Tristan and Isolde exact opposite on Asc and DC, Zeus and Hera close enough in 1st house (if I remember last part correctly).

I will be double checking these and my own various charts later

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posted March 26, 2014 08:07 AM            

Him first.

Sun square Uranus 0
Sun quindecile Sun 0
Sun trine Lilith 2

Moon quindecile Moon 0
Moon quintile Pluto 0
Moon opposite Chiron 1
Moon sextile Juno 0
Moon conjunct Destinn 0
Moon trine Angel 1
Moon conjunct Lilith* (asteroid) 0

Venus square Mars 0
Venus trine Pluto 0
Venus conjunct Karma 0
Venus trine Union 0
Venus conjunct DSC 0

Mars quindecile Mars 0
Mars trine Chiron 0
Mars conjunct Juno 0
Mars conjunct Valentine 0
Mars sextile Lilith* 0

Jupiter conjunct Neptune 0

Saturn square Moon 2
Saturn conjunct Pluto 1
Saturn trine Karma 0
Saturn conjunct Union 1

Uranus trine Moon 0
Uranus sextile Mercury 0
Uranus sextile Venus 0
Uranus opposite Mars 0
Uranus square Karma 1
Uranus square ASC 0

Neptune quintile Sun 0
Neptune conjunct Alma 0
Neptune conjunct Spirit 0

NN opposite Lilith 0
NN conjunct MC 1

Chiron opposite Juno 0
Chiron conjunct Vesta 1
Chiron trine Destinn 0
Chiron trine Angel 1
Chiron trine Lilith* 0

Lilith square Mars 2
Lilith conjunct Karma (wide 3)
Lilith conjunct DSC 1

Juno conjunct MC 1

Vesta square Atlantis 0

Karma square Mars 0
Karma opposite Karma 0
Karma sextile Union 0
Karma conjunct ASC 0

Atlantis conjunct Atlantis 1

Union sextile Sun 0
Union quincunx Saturn 0

DNA opposite Chiron 2
DNA conjunct Destinn 0
DNA conjunct Lilith* 0

Alma conjunct MC 2

Angel conjunct Chiron 2
Angel opposite Destinn 0
Angel sextile Angel 1
Angel opposite Lilith* 0

Lilith* conjunct Angel 1
Lilith* trine Lilith* 0

posted March 26, 2014 08:15 AM            

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Originally posted by FruityLlama:

Okay, so would both people who are each others whatever have to have these aspects? Thanks for the detailed answer btw

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While that was my initial thought, it doesn`t seem to be the case ALWAYS.
In the case of my parents it was, but I have seen several cases where only ONE person had it.

However in these intstances the other person LINKED to the natal soulmate pairing.

For example my friend`s man has ISIS conjunct OSIRIS and her ISIS squares his ISIS-OSIRIS exact.

they do not have ALMA_JUNO though as far as I can see.

(she does have a very close sextile of RUDRA to KAALI natally though, orb being: 0°02 and his PARVATI sextile her SIVA exact as well, while this is not aspecting her Rudra-Kaali, it is nevertheless a consistent theme; interestingly his ALMA on 28 Cancer trine her KAALI on 27 Pisces, which conjuncts his Moon on 26 Pisces, and sextile her RUDRA on 27 Taurus; while her ALMA on 11 Leo, right on his Sun on ^10 Leo, is opposite his KAALI on 12 Aquarius - a very multilayered link aspect involving her Sun, his Moon, both Almas and Kaali)

Their helio composite has interestingly

SIVA on 11 Aries quinkunx PARVATI on 12 Virgo, which opposes KAALI on 11 Pisces

They do not have Alma-Juno as I said, but

- JUNO conjunct Pluto on 6 virgo exact
and
- ALMA conjunct VESTA on 3 Leo exact

interestingly in their tropical composite
the ALMA/JUNO-mp falls onto 22°48 Leo

with

uranus 22°57 leo
VALENTINE 21°57 Leo

Their connection was definitely unexpected, but I think Uranus there also fits the fact she is an Aquarius and he has Sun closely conjunct Uranus natally.

soprry I got carried away I think.

posted March 26, 2014 08:29 AM            

It DOES have
widish trine of SIVA on 26.25 Sag to PARVATI on 28.56 Leo (2°31)

Jupiter on 9.11 Pisces trine JUNO on 8.47 Scrpio (0°24)

their DAVISON however has: (putting helio in brackets)

- ALMA conjunct JUNO: 0°27 (2°23)
- ISIS conjunct OSIRIS: 3°24 (0°23)
with ISIS being on 23-24 Virgo

- Pluto square PROSERPINA: 2°21, with PROSERPINA being exactly opposite the ALMA-JUNO-conjunction (curiously Proserpine falling onto my natal name in my chart and conjunct my child)

- and in their helio SIVA sextile PARVATI 0°25

posted March 26, 2014 02:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Selene:
[b]Indigo Can you, please, take a look at my charts as well? What do you think?[/B]

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posted March 26, 2014 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by FruityLlama:
Sorry, another question: In my natal I only have a semi-sextile between Osiris and Isis. Eros and Psyche do nothing. But I have Pluto in the 5th which I swear I read somewhere that it indicated intense relationships. Idk though, I'm not very good at relationships anyway. But what does this aspect, albeit minor mean? Anything?

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It CAN get thrown to the Twin, honestly.

In my case, he's got a near-conjunction of both VENUS and MARS, and EROS and PSYCHE.

However, we both have near conjunctions of ISIS and OSIRIS, and SIVA and PARVATI.

I also have a sextile between KAALI and RUDRA; he has a near-sextile.

KAALI aspects both of our SUNS: mine's a square, his a sextile.

His ISIS-OSIRIS 'configuration' (2º LIBRA / 25º VIRGO) is my SATURN/JUPITER 'configuration'. SATURN and OSIRIS, and JUPITER and ISIS are related archetypes.

So, his ISIS-OSIRIS 8º near-conjunction is a mirror of my JUPITER-SATURN 8º near-conjunction.

This also means his ISIS is conjunct my JUPITER (1º) and OSIRIS on my SATURN (0º25).

His OSIRIS / my SATURN are also conjunct (or near-conjunct) our mutual natal JUNO-ALMA conjunctions (0º-1º25).

His EROS and PSYCHE are too wide to make meaningful aspects to my chart - but PSYCHE/EROS, VENUS/MARS, AURA/ANUBIS, and KAALI/EROS, KAALI/VENUS, KAALI/ANUBIS are all 19º AQU, which trines my SUN (intricately linked to one of the soul missions which represents Twin Flames) 0º15, and is conjunct my SNODE 1º.

While, again, there are no meaningful EROS and PSYCHE aspects, in composite, they become trine - with EROS conjunct NEPTUNE (0º25) on the GC.

In short, there will be a 'completion' that occurs between the natals. This is why the composite seems a reliable first attack. They will appear there most readily.

It's then fascinating to go back and see how they were formed, and what insight we can draw from it.

posted March 26, 2014 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
In the case of my parents, their composite does not have ALMA-JUNO, nor ISIS-OSIRIS,

It DOES have
widish trine of SIVA on 26.25 Sag to PARVATI on 28.56 Leo (2°31)

Jupiter on 9.11 Pisces trine JUNO on 8.47 Scrpio (0°24)

their DAVISON however has: (putting helio in brackets)

- ALMA conjunct JUNO: 0°27 (2°23)
- ISIS conjunct OSIRIS: 3°24 (0°23)
with ISIS being on 23-24 Virgo

- Pluto square PROSERPINA: 2°21, with PROSERPINA being exactly opposite the ALMA-JUNO-conjunction (curiously Proserpine falling onto my natal name in my chart and conjunct my child)

- and in their helio SIVA sextile PARVATI 0°25

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Honestly, I don't believe my parents are Twin Flames, but very high level Soulmates who, frankly, are leaving after this - or, have returned for the purpose of raising vibrations - and me.

I DO know (as do they) there's no one else on Earth, nor has there ever been, that is more suited, or 'fated' for either of them.

Maybe we sell Soulmates short sometimes. The thought that there's an irrefutable uniqueness to Twin Flames is no doubt very romantic.

But here, in reality, on Earth, it's more than Twin Flames that are doing the hard work.

Of the Twin Flame couples I know personally, only one is together. I'm acquainted with about five.

Not the best ratio.

So, I'm apparently here to make a critical analysis of what prevents true love from prevailing here. That which we're doing which causes it to be 'conquered', as it were.

No doubt my life has thus far been a bizarre series of just about every kind of 'apart due to circumstances outside of our control' you can imagine. With a LOT of synchronicity.

Of course, I want to believe it'll all 'win out' in the end, but I certainly can't deny that it's quite bleak right now. How on earth do I have faith that it'll sort out in our fifties if all I can do is run until then?

posted March 26, 2014 04:12 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Hi there, Selene. We must've just 'missed' each other.

I asked several posts ago which one you are in the synastry you posted. I'd also like to see your natal.

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Hi! I'm sorry, i didn't see.

I'm the inner circle!

Here's my natal.

posted March 26, 2014 04:42 PM            

"Maybe we sell Soulmates short sometimes."
Yes, I do think so.

I still find it very interesting, too, how according to Newton- noone ever mentioned a twinflame or twinsoul during the regressions, but how these people were referring to a primary soulmate, whom they were bonded strongest with.

Even though some people liken the primary soulmate to twinflames, he himself stated unmistakenly and clearly that this is not what he means.

IQ sometimes refers to true love relationship soulmates, and quite honestly, THIS is what I want.
The one my soul loves most. so to speak.

Maybe it is profane or not spiritual enough, but hey my Draco Moon is conjunct my tropical DESC exactly. I suppose that is what I am here to learn. Relationships. Relating.

posted March 26, 2014 05:48 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Oh, thanks. Photobucket isn't my favourite client.

The quincunx is fine; as is the sextile. The latter requires a bit more focus on your part, but the quincunx is naturally karmic. There's an adjustment needed in that area (soul versus ego). Big shock, huh?

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Definitely, through previous intense relationships. I think my Moon in Scorpio conjunct(5°) Pluto, which is 3° from my 7th house, has an effect on this.

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Also, your ANGEL falls on my SUN/PLUTO MP. That's apt. Heh.

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I like to appreciate synchronistic moments like these. In my case they happen when I make major breakthroughs.

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
It's that sort of thing I've seen that's really mind-blowing in Twin Flame synastry / composites thus far. Highly statistically improbable linkages that create an actual completion.

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Agree with you on this. One can in fact extend this idea to other areas. For example I found it interesting that, "although the sun’s diameter is about 400 times larger than that of the moon – the sun is also about 400 times farther away. So the sun and moon appear nearly the same size as seen from Earth. And that’s why we on Earth can sometimes witness that most amazing of spectacles, a total eclipse of the sun" http://earthsky.org/space/coincidence-that-sun-and-moon-seem-same-size

I think that these "highly statistically improbable linkages that create an actual completion" are indicative of something more than just coincidence.

other examples:
http://www.sonoma.edu/users/v/vegalu/eschatology_files/Lunars.pdf

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
DEJANIRA conjunct MARS in synastry definitely indicates a purpose for the relationship in regards to 'activating' old wounds. Is CHIRON involved here?

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In regards to my chart the MERCURY-CERES at 0°SCO opposition OSIRIS at 29°ARI in the composite makes a T-square with my natal SIVA-CHIRON-VESTA connection at 2°LEO.

I also found it interesting that my asteroid PHOLUS at 25°50'CAN is conjunct(1°) her CHIRON

HelioSynastry: http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag371/rickysbobbies/HelioSyn_zpsafecbe4c.gif

posted March 26, 2014 06:23 PM            

Even though these can be of course romantic or erotic, too, I suppose these "mentorship"-asteroids and planets, might be stronger than the aspects involving Venus, Mars, Eros, Juno, Amor or Valentine.

Though I personally ADORE aspects of the mentorship asteroids paired with love asteroids. lol

Not sure what to make of the soulmate pairings. In the case of the guy I posted the chart with on the first page, the soulmate pairings were a little TOO strong and prominent to my taste. Our Isis-Osiris-conjunction actually happens because I have a very exact conjunction na, tally, and he has a more widish one. So it is reflecting our natal disposition.

I am talking about this tonight because I was dreaming of IQ last night and he wanted to tell me something about this guy, especially in relation to the Isis-osiris-conjunction. But I did not want to hear it and preferred waking up.

Well in composite we have:

- ISIS-OSIRIS conjunction (2 degrees)
- EROS-PSYCHE opposition exact
- PTAH-SEKHMET conjunct on 14 Aquarius exact
- LANCELOT-GUINEVERE opposition (3 degrees)
- CAESAR-KLEOPATRA-conjunct (2 degrees)
- AMENHOTEP-NOFRETETE-opposition exact
- TUTHMOSIS-HATHSEPSUT-conjunction exact

- TRISTAN-ISOLDA trine exact
- HORUS-HATHOR trine (2 degrees)
- Pluto-PERSEPHONE square (3 degrees)
- RUDRA-KAALI sextile (3 degrees)
- SIVA_PARVATI quinkunx exact
- SOOMANA-SOOTYO sextile exact

Yes, I know I checked a lot of parings, but seriously, that is not even funny anymore.

posted March 27, 2014 03:08 AM            

I think Ceridwen has good pointers to on where too look to see if there is a possible Guardian soulmate connection:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Just thinking aloud, but I have been thinking that in Guardian soulmates, who are guiding you, probably Jupiter, Chiron, ANGEL, possibly SPIRIT and REIKI will be strong. Maybe even MERLIN (or is that only relevant to me? ).

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I think it should also be noted that there is a significant connection between your natal chart and the composite:

The composite ASC at 12°32'LEO is Conjunction your natal Moon-Jupiter 11-13°LEO connection. The composite chart ruler, the Sun, is Conjunct your Neptune(which happens to be your 7th house ruler). Also composite ALMA Conjuncts your natal KARMA.

In your natal chart I am seeing a very prominent Yod involving the Moon-Jupiter, the Sun-Mercury-Venus stellium, and asteroid KARMA which is right on your Descendant.

In synastry the others Venus is Conjunct your KARMA and your Descendant.

It seems like your natal asteroid KARMA seems to be very important in understanding this relationship.

In synastry there seem to be very tight conjunctions between your asteroids and the others planets:

Your DESTINN-LILITH Conjunct others Moon
Your VALENTINE-JUNO Conjunct others Mars
note: These two conjuncts seem to form a rather tight Sextile to one another in each others natal charts (DES-LIL Sextile VAL-JUN, Moon Sextile Mars).

Your ALMA-SPIRIT Conjunct others Neptune.

Also the others Saturn sits right between your natal PLUTO-UNION connection

Use this asteroid combo for your natal and composite in Astro chart:

4227,16,433,2629,1170,2847,42,1923, Juno, Vertex, Vesta, and Ceres

I'm also assuming the charts have accurate birth times. The more accurate the better.

posted March 27, 2014 06:49 AM            

In tropical synastry with what you gave me to put in, we have:

His Kaali opposite my Rudra 1
His Rudra square my Kaali wiiide, 4. But it squares my Sun 1

With Parvati and Siva we have a connection between other planets.

His Moon conjunct my Siva 2
My Moon conjunct my Parvati 0
His Parvati conjunct my Mars 0
His Parvati sextile my Parvati&Moon 0

posted March 27, 2014 08:59 AM            

It shows in tropical synastry

My Ptah squares his Sekhmet 0
My Caesar opposes his Cleopatra 1
My Hatshepshut trines his Tuthmosis 3
My Horus trines his Hathor 2

In draconic it shows up as

Sekhmet conjunct Sun DW EXACT/1d
My Amenhotep sextile his Nofretete EXACT
My Horus trines his Hathor 2

posted March 27, 2014 01:19 PM            

"if we miss anything in Synastry, the Composite will always bring a rock solid aspect like Sun conjunct Venus or Pluto conjunct Persephone/Venus/Valentine or Isis conjunct Osiris if the couple are indeed Soul-Mates."