posted March 15, 2014 01:49 AM            

If you're just joining us, please have a look through Twinflame Astrology: Techniques, Investigation, and Validity; it's our humble beginnings.

So, who are we? And what are we doing here?

In late January, several astrologers came together to share their experiences and analyse the astrology in regards to
the Twin Flame phenomenon.

We've met with surprising success. Two more of our number have had their Twin Flames confirmed via astrological analysis since the creation of the previous thread.

In many ways, this is a continuation of our previous investigation, welcoming new voices, theories, opinions, and more experiences.

It's also delving into proposed purpose of these Twin Flame connexions, as well as more thoroughly looking into adjacent high-level Soulmate relationships, especially Companion and Guardian Souls.

I theorise that they are key in preparing a Graduate Soul for Reunion with their Twin Flame. Now, we'll look to astrology to better understand those connexions and their purpose.

posted March 22, 2014 03:04 PM            

Ceri mentioned that karma can indeed be good, too. We tend to less think of it as 'good karma' as we do 'karmic reward' in that sense.

This relationship itself embodies those qualities. I never hesitate to call it a love because of its strange purity and unconditionality.

Amazing, since we've never even met. Not here, that is.

Technology has given us the remarkable ability to communicate as if we were in the same space, though. We always vow to do it more often. But, in recent years, it's been more of a damage control and crisis management relationship.

In our late teens, we helped each other. In our twenties, I provided support and guidance for him. Now, in our thirties, he's been inexplicably and bizarrely there within seconds that I feel the world caving in.

And he provides EXACTLY what I need to stop the tremors. It allows me to breathe, recentre myself, and continue on my path.

For me, that's been of paramount importance. Honestly, I ought to check where our ANGELs are, as I wouldn't be surprised if they're angular.

posted March 22, 2014 03:44 PM            

First off I see a beautiful idealistic psychic intuitive Moon-Neptune-conjunction in Sagittarius, close to the GC, but not quite making it, but trine Sun, with the angular Pluto not only being on the ver auspicious Spica-ARcturus, but also sextile both Sun and Moon-Neptune.

This is a harmonious basic Sun-Moon-exchange, spiritualized and elevated to spiritual dimensions by both Neptune and Pluto, which basically are an extension of the Yin and Yang energy into the spiritual.

no strong Valentine contacts though Valentine is near SGC - maybe that reduces the romance-factor?

Oh well Valentine sextile Uranus - sorry. But still this is more idealistic, too, Isuppose, than strictly personally romantic. But of course it is beautiful, Jupiter on the Valentine/URanus-mp.
A true loving guidance and mentorship inbuilt.

PSYCHE-Venus on Regulus and conjunct MErcury - more and more Idealism, squaring Uranus though. Venus square Uranus?
Was there the thought once that you could be lovers due to a zany erratic attraction but you decided that you would be best of as friends and counselors and guidance to each other`? (or maybe it is just the indicator that yours is a relationship through electronic medium mostly)

Mars is not doing much either, so again that might take out a bit of that sexuality out of the equation.

Though Juno conjunct Vesta is there and sextile Karma. Been there, done that before?

UNION is conjunct Mercury - so at the basic level of this union there is a friendship and mentorship.

Sabian of Mercury
Two Guardian Angels

I have NO doubts, not even astrologically that he is your guardian

Sabian of Union-Destinn
A Man Becoming Aware Of Nature Spirits And Normally Unseen Spiritual Agencies

Oh I see.
KARMA trine CERES exact,both sextile JUNO-VESTA

posted March 22, 2014 06:01 PM            

WE were not in each other`s life or social circle, yet maybe just a dream, maybe spiritual truth, but one thing is clear, I wouldnīt be who I am today without his presence in my life.

The ASC could actually be in the range from 18.52 Cap - 4.04 Aquarius.

I know he has a PIsces-ASC but not the exact degree. Probably though his ASC will be right about where Mr Sag`s ASC is. lol
It wouldnīt surprise me.

The funny thing is, I just remember it, someone once asked or told me that she got the feeling that "Xanadu" would be important in relation to my twinflame, if I could relate.
No, I could not really.
Never even heard of the film.
However, it is really a funny coincidence, but I spoke to him (the only time we spoke) after seeing him in a musical, and most part of it played in a club called "Xanadu".

So this was the song that girl thought was important for me. oh so long ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLExLbCgsGQ

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I was just searching for IQ`s analysis of him and me, and I had been talking about mr Nemesis and Jude to IQ, too, and to my surprsie I just read IQ wrote this:

"you sincerely love and care about tehse 3 Musketeers from your Soul Group "

The thing that just NOW struck me is that that was Mr Sag`s break through role, D `ARtagnan, and coincidentally my guardian soulmate also played in that musical, he played Athos.

EDIT:
There is no Xanadu-asteroid, but Xantus. Yeah I know tooo far in prononciation. Nevertheless I put it into Mr Sag`s and my composite.

It is conjunct our ASC.

More so on the day of the ARtus-performance. Tr XANTUS will be on our ALMA-JUNO. The conjunction to Juno is PRECISE.
no orb

Additionally Tr KARMA will be on the exact same spot it had been in 2010, when I reappeared in his life. We have completed one Karma-cycle. LOL

Actually it is not on just ANY spot, but right on the GC, our composite Sun, his Sun-Moon-MC and my Sun-Mercury, and incidentally on his XANTHUS. LOL

Whatever Xantus really means

posted March 22, 2014 07:00 PM            

Kira and Sonja are conjunct in my chart

and though they are not in Mr SAg`?s, they are in the same sign and relatively close, just separated by Venus.

almost conjunct in the composite as well. 5 degrees though.
Almost parallel 1°22

Kira being conjunct Valentine-Lust-Angel (!), opp. JUno-Alma.
Sonja conjunct MC and Musa (!)

HOly crap!

helio composite has

SONJA 13.49 Scorpio
VALENTINE 13.43 Scorpio
ANGEL 13.19 Scorpio

KIRA 15.11 Scorpio

with
VESTA 12.33 Pisces
PSYCHE 13.38 Pisces

and LOL

tr composite
TERPSICHORE 00.35 Aquarius
conjunct
ANUBIS
and
ASC

helio composite

TERPSICHORE on 11 Aquarius conj. Venus and hooking into our GT and also squaring the Sonny/sonja asteroid.

OUch, sometimes it feels like someone is trying REALLY hit me right over my head.

Hmm maybe one of these days I am going to ask him if he knows the film Xanadu. lol

oh and his Venus is exactly conjunct my TERPSICHORE

"A Nature Sprit Dancing In The Iridescent Mist Of A Waterfall"

I honestly doubt he would like to see me dancing, though.
NOONE wants to see THAT

WOW, my Draco TERPSICHORE Is conjunct my name asteroid. Why is it on my name?????

my Draco MUSA-SAPPHO on 11 Aquarius conjunct his tropical Sappho as well and helio whatever

his Draco TERPHSICHORE is conjunct my Draco name in my chart.

this muse is starting to scare me
sorry got carried away a little

EDIT
and please can someone remove that song out of my braincells: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVwq_kg6ZYY

I can relate to that song - minus the dance-part of course. LOL

posted March 22, 2014 07:58 PM            

It's funny how he's a bit of a mash-up between my husband and my costar. Many similar placements:

SAG RISING / CAN VX (costar)
CAN VALENTINE (husband)
CAN SUN (costar)
SCO PSYCHE (husband)
LEO VENUS (costar)
GEM UNION (husband)
PIS AMOR (costar)

We did one of those instantaneous bonding things. He was one of my first investigators when my organisation went online. It was in no way platonic. But, we both tried to be realistic, too. Three years is a HUGE age gap, as well, when you're in high school.

Over time, we just got used to the comfortable 'background / occasional foreground' presence we had in each other's lives. I'm sure in other eigenstates we're a kick-ass production team. Here, I'm a therapist, he's a doctor; I'm in LA, he's in NS.

Funny story.

He's the one who kept inexplicably dropping the ball which 'forced' me to find Fate. It was SO uncharacteristic, too. I'll never forget how apologetic he was - and baffled - that it kept not syncing up. Finally, he just said, 'I guess it's not meant to be,' and really meant it.

But we've stayed in touch. It's a ... controlled burn.

I've also zero doubt in my mind that were we in each other's physical presence, all the usual Soulmate characteristics would apply. There's just always been an ease to the relationship, I think, because of the sense of karmic reward, rather than debt.

I'm sure the MOON-AMOR, VENUS-NNODE, and EROS-CHIRON has a lot to do with that. Very soothing, very healing. Somehow, always genuinely mutual. Since Day One.

posted March 22, 2014 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Sabian of Mercury
Two Guardian Angels

I have NO doubts, not even astrologically that he is your guardian

Sabian of Union-Destinn
A Man Becoming Aware Of Nature Spirits And Normally Unseen Spiritual Agencies

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Hah! I love that! I absolutely sense it, too.

Earlier, when he contacted me today, I texted back, 'I was JUST about to contact you! I guess you must've 'heard' me, huh?' And he responded, 'Ohh, very loudly.'

posted March 22, 2014 08:17 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
This is whom I consider my guardian soulmate; I once thought he was my twinflame, but what do you know when you are 15 years old?
(actually sometimes it feels like our 15 year old Selves knew A LOT. lol).

WE were not in each other`s life or social circle, yet maybe just a dream, maybe spiritual truth, but one thing is clear, I wouldnīt be who I am today without his presence in my life.

The ASC could actually be in the range from 18.52 Cap - 4.04 Aquarius.

I know he has a PIsces-ASC but not the exact degree. Probably though his ASC will be right about where Mr Sag`s ASC is. lol
It wouldnīt surprise me.

The funny thing is, I just remember it, someone once asked or told me that she got the feeling that "Xanadu" would be important in relation to my twinflame, if I could relate.
No, I could not really.
Never even heard of the film.
However, it is really a funny coincidence, but I spoke to him (the only time we spoke) after seeing him in a musical, and most part of it played in a club called "Xanadu".

So this was the song that girl thought was important for me. oh so long ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLExLbCgsGQ

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I was just searching for IQ`s analysis of him and me, and I had been talking about mr Nemesis and Jude to IQ, too, and to my surprsie I just read IQ wrote this:

"you sincerely love and care about tehse 3 Musketeers from your Soul Group "

The thing that just NOW struck me is that that was Mr Sag`s break through role, D `ARtagnan, and coincidentally my guardian soulmate also played in that musical, he played Athos.

EDIT:
There is no Xanadu-asteroid, but Xantus. Yeah I know tooo far in prononciation. Nevertheless I put it into Mr Sag`s and my composite.

It is conjunct our ASC.

More so on the day of the ARtus-performance. Tr XANTUS will be on our ALMA-JUNO. The conjunction to Juno is PRECISE.
no orb

Additionally Tr KARMA will be on the exact same spot it had been in 2010, when I reappeared in his life. We have completed one Karma-cycle. LOL

Actually it is not on just ANY spot, but right on the GC, our composite Sun, his Sun-Moon-MC and my Sun-Mercury, and incidentally on his XANTHUS. LOL

Whatever Xantus really means

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Hah! I just did 'Suddenly' with my new duet partner last week.

And, wow, that ISIS-OSIRIS-ANGEL! So high in the chart, too. VALENTINE-PHOLUS. He most certainly did bring about something - change something dramatically - in the area of VALENTINE.

posted March 22, 2014 08:43 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
This is whom I consider my guardian soulmate; I once thought he was my twinflame, but what do you know when you are 15 years old?
(actually sometimes it feels like our 15 year old Selves knew A LOT. lol).

WE were not in each other`s life or social circle, yet maybe just a dream, maybe spiritual truth, but one thing is clear, I wouldnīt be who I am today without his presence in my life.

The ASC could actually be in the range from 18.52 Cap - 4.04 Aquarius.

I know he has a PIsces-ASC but not the exact degree. Probably though his ASC will be right about where Mr Sag`s ASC is. lol
It wouldnīt surprise me.

The funny thing is, I just remember it, someone once asked or told me that she got the feeling that "Xanadu" would be important in relation to my twinflame, if I could relate.
No, I could not really.
Never even heard of the film.
However, it is really a funny coincidence, but I spoke to him (the only time we spoke) after seeing him in a musical, and most part of it played in a club called "Xanadu".

So this was the song that girl thought was important for me. oh so long ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLExLbCgsGQ

[/URL]

[/URL]

I was just searching for IQ`s analysis of him and me, and I had been talking about mr Nemesis and Jude to IQ, too, and to my surprsie I just read IQ wrote this:

"you sincerely love and care about tehse 3 Musketeers from your Soul Group "

The thing that just NOW struck me is that that was Mr Sag`s break through role, D `ARtagnan, and coincidentally my guardian soulmate also played in that musical, he played Athos.

EDIT:
There is no Xanadu-asteroid, but Xantus. Yeah I know tooo far in prononciation. Nevertheless I put it into Mr Sag`s and my composite.

It is conjunct our ASC.

More so on the day of the ARtus-performance. Tr XANTUS will be on our ALMA-JUNO. The conjunction to Juno is PRECISE.
no orb

Additionally Tr KARMA will be on the exact same spot it had been in 2010, when I reappeared in his life. We have completed one Karma-cycle. LOL

Actually it is not on just ANY spot, but right on the GC, our composite Sun, his Sun-Moon-MC and my Sun-Mercury, and incidentally on his XANTHUS. LOL

Whatever Xantus really means

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Hah! I just did 'Suddenly' with my new duet partner last week.

And, wow, that ISIS-OSIRIS-ANGEL! So high in the chart, too. VALENTINE-PHOLUS. He most certainly did bring about something - change something dramatically - in the area of VALENTINE.

posted March 23, 2014 06:28 AM            

"To answer your question, Ceri, we tried our damnedest to have a relationship years ago, (it was rather romantic, actually), but, ohhh, distance. Distance again."
Interesting. It is entirely possible I missed the clues in the composite.

"e one who kept inexplicably dropping the ball which 'forced' me to find FateJ."
The interesting thing is that my guardian soulmate was the one who "introduced" me to Mr Sag. (actually mr Nemesis played his part in this as well, but the feeling I get about him, are more... volatile, which made it very awkward and uncomfortable to even be near him, since he is gay)

Incidentally I was always wanting to see my guardian soulmate, and Mr Sag somehow "happened" to be there.
For a long time I used to think there could never be anyone that would trigger such strong feelings in me like my guardian soulmate did, and I also started thinking that maybe you have to be 15 and a fearless dreamer, no matter how impossible the dream (and yeah irony had it that the first thing I saw my guardian soulmate in, was the Man of La Manche. the impossible dream, hm? ), but I thought that having this kind of feelings, maybe you can only have them at 15. Beeing carefree and free, trusting, living int he moment, and anything seems possible.
But after that you grow up and you close that door, and it is just shut, and it is part of growing up. I thought.

And then suddenly there was Mr Sag, and honestly he reminded me SO much of my guardian soulmate, just that he was even *more*. I don`t know how to define it otherwise. He just felt *more*

Curiously Mr Nemesis has some resemblance with Jude. Well they had at the time Jude was doing Talented Mr Ripley. They don`t have nowadays. Jude looks much better nwo that he matures.

But yes, my guardian soulmate did not just push me onto a spiritual-romantic path, but he also pushed me into Mr Sag`s way.
And curiously I think I remember that IQ once pondered - and I did NOT want to hear it- about if it might be the role of my guardian soulmate and Mr Nemesis to lead me to my true love soulmate.
At that time I already had seen mr Sag and his image as INSTANTLY rising up when IQ said this, but I pushed it down, pushed it down, down, down, way deep down, so it would not unsettle me anymore.

That thought was much too dangerous, because in a way Mr Sag has a REALNESS to him that all the others lack. Yes they are real, but he is somehow, I donīt know, just more real. Solid. Not just a nice thought, dream, possibility or option, but someone I can`t rationalize away. lol

"I'm sure the MOON-AMOR, VENUS-NNODE, and EROS-CHIRON has a lot to do with that. Very soothing, very healing. Somehow, always genuinely mutual. Since Day One."
I didn`t see the synastry to be honest. But yes, I can se that now.
Maybe that is the thing though, while the attraction is there (in synastry), it somehow does not get off the ground (in composite).

posted March 23, 2014 06:47 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Hah! I just did 'Suddenly' with my new duet partner last week.

And, wow, that ISIS-OSIRIS-ANGEL! So high in the chart, too. VALENTINE-PHOLUS. He most certainly did bring about something - change something dramatically - in the area of VALENTINE.

I love VENUS-JUPITER, by the way. It's (usually) a very nice experience. But maybe not in SCO with everything else huddled around it. Maybe.

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Venus-Jupiter in Pisces is very nice, though a bit dreamy. Well maybe not for him, as it falls onto his natal Chiron and opposes his natal Pluto
It also conjuncts my Pholus.

And yes VAlentine-Pholus in Aquarius
"An Ancient Pottery Bowl Filled With Fresh Violets"

I suppose this Sabian means we go way back, but that there has to be something "new" instilled.
I also noticed that it is squaring KARMA on Algol. That ca`t be good. lol

Actually synastrically his Valentie opposes myValentine. And his Valentine is near Algol.

What I find uncanny though is that all three of them, all three Musketeers except Jude, have Proserpina so close to each other, despite being very different in age (though of course there is a relation, 1962 - 1966 - 1974 - 1979: it is always a relation of 4-5 years, well Is uppose someone born in about 1970 is still missing. lol)

so PROSERPINA
my guardian: 8°09 Aquarius
Mr Nemesis: 7°40 Aquarius
Mr Sag: 7°24 Aquarius

They are all trine my Pluto at 9.04 Libra. And in two cases there are DW`s as Mr Nemesis Pluto is square my Proserpina exact, and Mr Sag`s Pluto is sextile my Proserpina exact.

(my guardian`s Pluto is actually biseptile my Proserpina; my Pluto is opposite his Persephone, and his Pluto is just not conjunct my PErsephone - 5 degree orb. lol)

the composite with my Nemesis has
Pluto sextile PERSEPHONE

helio composite has
Pluto trine PERSEPHONE

the composite with my guardian has
a VERY loose square of Pluto and PErsephone at 3 degrees

and nothing in helio

the composite with Mr Sag has

Pluto square PROSERPINA at 1 degree

helio:
Pluto sextile PROSERPINA at 2 degrees, but intervowen into a Star of David which also includes CERES and Venus.

It seems to be quite a theme there. lol

But as much as I am totally okay and alright with it now, it was a long journey to get here, and at times it hurts so much I thought I was going to die.

posted March 23, 2014 03:12 PM            

Edit: well, crap, I thought I knew how to post a chart. I'll be back later when I have the energy to figure it out.

posted March 23, 2014 03:48 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by summerlite:
Remove the space in the word "composite"
the synastry chart is too small.

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posted March 23, 2014 03:52 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by summerlite:

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Yup that's my chart. What did you do that's different than what I did above?

EDIT: Oh, duh. The space is still there.

EDIT 2: Well, the space is there when it posts, but it isn't there in the actual URL and there's no way I can figure out to remove it without removing the T.

posted March 24, 2014 05:56 PM            

I'm just stopping by for brief fly-by and simple hello. You're all huge relationship-geniuses to me!

Special Hello (once again) to "The Beautiful IndigoDirae"

Hugs to all!!!

So, Ceri...! You edited-in a request: an antidote to your song "A Chorus Line - Let me Dance For You"...? Howz about romantic nostalgic version to Dance with Your Dreams....

Lesley Ann Warren and Stuart Damon in "Rodgers and Hammerstein's Cinderella" 1965

(music) "Ten Minutes Ago" (Cinderella, 1965) [4:04] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEW9szLLIuc

(music) "Do I Love You Because Your Beautiful" (Cinderella, 1965) [4:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVx9ENFFoas

ADDED 3/25
(music) Cinderella "Do I Love You Because You're Beautiful (1957) (Julie Andrews) [2:20] http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=PV9H_PLVyMs

(music) "The Search" (Cinderella, 1965) [6:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEMN6vbSeBY

Jupiter was traveling through zodiac CANCER when this 1965 version was being aired by television throughout later 1960s and beyond.

posted March 24, 2014 06:45 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Gemmy:
Sorry if this is a dumb question.
What kind of soulmate relationship involves heavy 12th house synastry?

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Not dumb in the least, Gemmy.

It's less soul-connexion specific as it is heavily karmic. That can range from Soulmates of varying kinds to Karmic Partners (resolving a specific or special karma) to certain Twin Flames.

posted March 24, 2014 06:57 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
That thought was much too dangerous, because in a way Mr Sag has a REALNESS to him that all the others lack. Yes they are real, but he is somehow, I donīt know, just more real. Solid. Not just a nice thought, dream, possibility or option, but someone I can`t rationalize away. lol

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Mine did something curious after our wonderful hour-long meditative conversation. At exactly 00:00, my time, he sent me a snap of himself in that moment. Really, I've no idea why. Still don't.

I DO know, and I could NOT deny, how terribly much they resemble each other. I guess their both being older and having slimmed down to a more athletic look is what's bringing it out, but it bowled me over.

There's a look, too, in it. It's sly. Knowing. Purposeful. It's as if he's saying, 'I'm doing this, and maybe I don't know why, but I'm not telling you, even if I did.' Not out of spite. No, no. He just knows that's how it's to be.

Something he kept saying was how wonderful it is, and that he's forgotten, how he only need say a few words and an explanation is unnecessary. I simply get it. He's evidently never bared his soul to anyone as he has to me. Wow. Needless to say, it's a mutual appreciation society.

posted March 24, 2014 07:02 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Here is the synastry (I hope); I'm on the inside and I don't have an exact time of birth for him. As with the Composite, the orbs are set at 30%:

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Wow! ANGEL-SUN both of you, with your MOON in the mix. Plus, UNION-SUN in the composite.

VALENTINE/JUPITER-UNION; ALMA-UNION. Wow.