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Topic: Squares between same element signs? They are different?
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next to neptune
Knowflake Posts: 1285
From: The Moon
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 17, 2014 05:44 AM
  
For an example I got mars 27 degrees virgo and uranus 1 degree capricorn, but virgo and capricorn are very compatible energies? Are the square then a more positive kind of square because the signs are in the same element?IP: Logged |
coolingembers
Knowflake Posts: 559
From: California
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted April 17, 2014 05:59 AM
How the heck are Virgo and Capricorn square??Virgo squares Gemini and Sagittarius. Capricorn squares Libra and Aries. Virgo and Capricorn are trine, because they are from the same element. Two signs from the same element cannot ever be a square... IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 1285
From: The Moon
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 17, 2014 06:09 AM
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Originally posted by coolingembers:
How the heck are Virgo and Capricorn square??Virgo squares Gemini and Sagittarius. Capricorn squares Libra and Aries. Virgo and Capricorn are trine, because they are from the same element. Two signs from the same element cannot ever be a square...
because my virgo mars is 27 degrees, so it's almost libra, and my capricorn uranus is very early 1 degree… IP: Logged |
Adimi
Knowflake Posts: 424
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Registered: Jul 2012
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posted April 17, 2014 06:13 AM
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Originally posted by coolingembers:
How the heck are Virgo and Capricorn square??Virgo squares Gemini and Sagittarius. Capricorn squares Libra and Aries. Virgo and Capricorn are trine, because they are from the same element. Two signs from the same element cannot ever be a square...
It is possible in this case coolingembers... Let's say next to neptune had Mars at 27º Virgo and another planet at 27º Saggitarius. That's a pretty obvious square, right? However, they have Uranus at 1º Capricorn, which is only 4 degrees apart from the "27º Saggitarius" position... So their Uranus is still within orb to a square to their natal Mars.
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charlie
Knowflake Posts: 1729
From: los angeles, ca, USA
Registered: Jun 2012
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posted April 17, 2014 06:16 AM
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Originally posted by coolingembers:
How the heck are Virgo and Capricorn square??Virgo squares Gemini and Sagittarius. Capricorn squares Libra and Aries. Virgo and Capricorn are trine, because they are from the same element. Two signs from the same element cannot ever be a square...
I have Venus in Cancer and Uranus in Scorpio square  It is very possible!
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next to neptune
Knowflake Posts: 1285
From: The Moon
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 17, 2014 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by charlie:
I have Venus in Cancer and Uranus in Scorpio square It is very possible!
So is it an easier square because it's same element signs? IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
Knowflake Posts: 5756
From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron)
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 17, 2014 06:53 AM
I have an air Moon square air Venus 
I don't know if it's easier.
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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.IP: Logged |
coolingembers
Knowflake Posts: 559
From: California
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted April 17, 2014 07:56 AM
Oh, I see. My bad. You threw me off so much with that hahaha, I seriously thought I was missing a huge chunk.You'd think that it WOULD make it a lot "easier" of a square to deal with though? Personally, I dont count "conjunctions" that arent in the same elements, so I guess I transferred that over to squares too... IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen
Knowflake Posts: 1051
From: Planet Earth
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted April 17, 2014 04:06 PM
I think it's possible. But a square is still a square. There's probably still some difficulties with it. Although, you might be able to handle it better than a non-compatible element square since the energies are somewhat the same.IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
Knowflake Posts: 3305
From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted April 17, 2014 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I have an air Moon square air Venus
Same here, lol. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
Knowflake Posts: 3305
From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted April 17, 2014 08:24 PM
I would think that there will be less tension with the planets in the same element squaring.Pretty much what everyone else is saying, lol. Although, I think these kinds of squares are more controlled, and thus, directed into mastery with a more intense desire. But it is natural and at ease to feel the intense direction, as YOU control it yourself, and are a strong person because of it.
The drawback of this is that you seem like a hard-edged person within that department because you are so sure of yourself. And that's where the tension between "these" kind of squares happen. The energy is used to the max. It's a natural part of you, and you accept it, unlike other squares, where there is constant tension within the self. Basically, it's like a more positive square. IP: Logged |
next to neptune
Knowflake Posts: 1285
From: The Moon
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 19, 2014 03:16 AM
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I would think that there will be less tension with the planets in the same element squaring.Pretty much what everyone else is saying, lol. Although, I think these kinds of squares are more controlled, and thus, directed into mastery with a more intense desire. But it is natural and at ease to feel the intense direction, as YOU control it yourself, and are a strong person because of it.
The drawback of this is that you seem like a hard-edged person within that department because you are so sure of yourself. And that's where the tension between "these" kind of squares happen. The energy is used to the max. It's a natural part of you, and you accept it, unlike other squares, where there is constant tension within the self. Basically, it's like a more positive square.
thank you…. so is it the same with for an example trines between different element signs? If someone had 29 degree pisces moon and a 2 degree leo sun, would it then be a more negative trine? IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
Knowflake Posts: 3305
From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted April 19, 2014 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
thank you…. so is it the same with for an example trines between different element signs? If someone had 29 degree pisces moon and a 2 degree leo sun, would it then be a more negative trine?
No, it wouldn't really be a negative trine (IMO), since these signs aren't naturally square or anything, they're just quincunx, so it's just a neutral trine (you can interpret it as a more negative trine, though, as fire and water signs aren't compatible, I just would say that there is no "negative trine", as it's a positive aspect within itself) but not as good as a natural element trine.
It's still a trine nonetheless, though. These trines may be better than natural element trines in a sense, because there is a bit of a challenge (natural quincunx signs) in that area, therefore more of a willingness to do more, opposed to natural element trines, which can make people lazy in that department, as things come really easy for them. Either way, it all comes down to which one you would prefer IP: Logged |
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