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Topic: Where, and with Whom, is our 'Personal Paradise': East Point/West Point Axis
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Ellynlvx
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posted April 19, 2014 11:09 PM
  
I love the feeling when mine is activated.It's like Lightning up the base of my spine. I watch it on my Astro*Clock, and when I feel it, I check. Yep, the daily Transit is hitting something important. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted April 19, 2014 11:13 PM
I think it's very important to check the Vertex when you do an Event chart.And it changes a LOT, so you need to be very accurate with Time and Place. That's one thing I really like about my basic Interpretations. They don't have many things, but they DO have the Vertex. IP: Logged |
mir
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posted April 19, 2014 11:41 PM
I found some pretty interesting things looking at the progressed east/west point.Just use Meridian house system on astro.com and there you have it all. Don't forget the declinations. IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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posted April 19, 2014 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by Orange:
I've never been a fan of Vertex or EP. Its just so fake. Its such a lie. It hits you and you think it's all fated and whatnot, and all it is, is an exaggerated feeling with no substance.
Actually, this can be true if one of these Axis is highlighted in synastry but there's not much else going on synastry-wise to back up the connection. In these type of situations activation to the EP/WP Axis or the Vertex Axis can function like a mirage in a desert. Once we get up close and personal to what we thought might be a 'paradise' or a 'fated encounter', we realize there's really nothing there but sand after all. When these Axis are backed up with an overall good synastry between two people, the result is a lot more satisfactory. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted April 20, 2014 12:10 AM
Don't you think the most important thing is the result inside yourself?Why do people always look to another person? IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted April 20, 2014 12:14 AM
Idk I never had intense relationships with fixed signs.Their okay but I've never been into in scorpios or taurus that much. I have vertex conjunct pluto too. IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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posted April 20, 2014 02:33 AM
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Don't you think the most important thing is the result inside yourself?Why do people always look to another person?
I agree with this. I always look forward to transits over my Vertex Axis and my EP/WP Axis because I often enjoy the mood/vibe that comes with these transits. Synastry is not the only way to have fun with these Axis. I like to take these experiences for what they are and simply enjoy the feeling they give. IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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posted April 20, 2014 02:47 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Anyway, I remembered that Jude Law has his Sun conjunct my Venus, and I suspect that is one of the "hooks" for me. Well not just that but both natal Pluto`s are squaring this conjunction, and Pluto is on each other`s (and own) MC, thus angular and being thrust into prominence I think. (the other two "hooks" would probably centre around our Sag-ASC-Mars-Venus-Neptune interrelations, and probably also my Saturn opposing his Jupiter-NN-conjunction).
Anyway so I was curious where his EP would fall. And it is on 6 Capricorn, EXACTLY conjunct my natal Venus! LOL
(of course that means his EP is configured with his own Sun).
In a way this might even strengthen the hook, of that Sun-Venus-conjunction.
Yes, I do think it totally would strengthen the hook as to why he stands out for you. Interestingly Sienna Miller, his most high profile relationship so far, also had her Sun at 6 degrees of Capricorn conjunct Jude Law's Sun. I suspect that for him, the alignment with his Sun/EP, was part of the appeal for him. For time the relationship lasted at least. Also, I was thinking about the square from Pluto to your EP/WP Axis. Do you feel that their is something about the Pluto-square state of being that fulfills some type of 'ideal' for you? It seems like an unusual way to conceive of 'paradise' but only you yourself could explain if the thought of this actually does strike some type of chord within you. I only have a sextile/trine to my EP/WP Axis so I'm curious as to the natal effect of the square here. IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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posted April 20, 2014 03:11 AM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
His EP/WP axis is conjunct his Vertex axis, 1 deg. EP conjunct Avx, WP conjunct Vx. How would you interpret that, Lotis?
Hi LeeLoo This means that the person's antennae for both fatedness/synchronicity and contentment/paradise are linked. One doesn't occur independently of the other. That feeling of something being ‘meant to be’ would also feel like a type of comfort and security to him. It gives him peace of mind. Planets aspecting this area of his chart would really press his buttons. Conjunctions and oppositions would for sure, but also look at any other aspects here as well. When looking at the MC/IC, the ASC/DSC, and the Nodes, we certainly take into account any aspects occurring, not just conjunctions and oppositions. Why would the the Vertex Axis or the EP/WP Axis be any different? Personally, I think even a quindecile or a quintile to one end of such an Axis is worthy of consideration.
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Ellynlvx
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posted April 20, 2014 05:05 AM
Well, the thing is, if you have a point activated, you have all the Aspected points set in motion as well.IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted April 20, 2014 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
I love the feeling when mine is activated.It's like Lightning up the base of my spine. I watch it on my Astro*Clock, and when I feel it, I check. Yep, the daily Transit is hitting something important.
Like right now; I could feel it, and sure enough, it's crossing right on my Natal Vertex at this very moment.
It's so Electric and Trippy.
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Lotis White
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posted April 20, 2014 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Like right now; I could feel it, and sure enough, it's crossing right on my Natal Vertex at this very moment.It's so Electric and Trippy.
I know the feeling. IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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posted April 22, 2014 05:26 AM
Anyone with any synastry stories?IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted April 22, 2014 05:35 AM
Well, since it's been activated, a million things have happened to me.The Synastries that have popped up are all learning exercises. I think it totally depends on where it falls and what is Conjunct that makes the lesson. I share mine with John Lennon. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted April 22, 2014 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Hi LeeLooThis means that the person's antennae for both fatedness/synchronicity and contentment/paradise are linked. One doesn't occur independently of the other. That feeling of something being ‘meant to be’ would also feel like a type of comfort and security to him. It gives him peace of mind. Planets aspecting this area of his chart would really press his buttons. Conjunctions and oppositions would for sure, but also look at any other aspects here as well. When looking at the MC/IC, the ASC/DSC, and the Nodes, we certainly take into account any aspects occurring, not just conjunctions and oppositions. Why would the the Vertex Axis or the EP/WP Axis be any different? Personally, I think even a quindecile or a quintile to one end of such an Axis is worthy of consideration.
Thank you, Lotis,  very nice explanation.
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mir
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posted April 22, 2014 09:42 AM
If you take Meridian house system (in which the 1st house cusp is the East-point and the 7th West - btw a much easier way to calculate these points on astro.com) then I see my progressed angles (MC/IC - East/Westpoint) exactly line up with his' now we finally come closer in real, which means;
My progressed East-point in an applying (1) conjunction to his natal West-point (and vice versa ofcourse) AND My progressed MC in an appl. (1) conjunction to his natal IC (and the vice versa version).This is not the case with placidus. In which his asc. is 10 degr. ahead of this 4-alignment. Also my progressed Venus/Sun will line up with his Eastpoint in a solstice conjunction (which you can also see in the declinations). Within a few years his progr. East-point will line up in a solstice conjunction to MY natal east-point which again (ofcourse) noticable in the declinations (and his progr. MC in a solctice conj. to my IC at the same time). To make a long story short; with us it's ALL in the progressions (the upcoming 15 years). So yea I can finally see the significance of angles as they will make more amazing patterns. Fits like a puzzle. I've never seen it that clear. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted April 24, 2014 09:37 AM
Feeling it again, LotisWhite.It's an even better method of rectification than the Sabians. IP: Logged |
Selene
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posted April 24, 2014 10:07 AM
Interesting. My EP conjuncts his Sun/Moon midpoint EXACTLY. His WP conjuncts my Uranus EXACTLY (we have heavy Uranus-themed synastry even without that!) IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted May 22, 2014 03:58 PM
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/004601-5.html Lotis White, your Moderation Chariot doth await... ------------------
Love, Ellyn IP: Logged |
meissieri
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posted May 22, 2014 05:03 PM
Libra and Aries, 1st and 7th house again. But with Saturn and Neptune squaring both. Ah. What don't they square in my chart anyway. IP: Logged |
nove731
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posted May 22, 2014 08:45 PM
Mine is the same degree as my Ascendant (27 degrees Virgo)...For some reason, I kind I expected it to be in Sagittarius, though, hahahaha IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted March 12, 2015 05:33 PM
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LeeLoo2014
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posted March 12, 2015 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Inner Paradise.Paradise that is channeled through the rulers on the Signs. For me, that means Music and Composition, Poetry, Singing. Through the Higher Octaves, it takes me to a Higher Realm.
I haven't seen this before, thank you Ellyn for this beautiful description of the interception as "inner paradise". ------------------
I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera
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posted March 12, 2015 07:39 PM
Oh this is cool! A new stuff for me!Hmm.. I see something here.. My EP conjunct my Neptune (my Sun ruler), his Osiris & Isis (out of sign). He has Juno conjunct Neptune in natal. I feel this means something.. His EP conjunct his Uranus - funny I have my Uranus conjunct my Asc. Oh and my Sun/Moon/Mercury squares his EP exact. It looks like his WP conjunct my Chiron - yikes :/ In md. pt. composite, Asc/Dsc axis is right on his EP/WP axis. 2H/8H cusp is on my EP/WP axis. What orb do you use for this analysis?
I kept mine under 3... IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted March 12, 2015 08:21 PM
Polka's awesome and so is this thread. researching...IP: Logged |
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