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Topic: Venus/Saturn aspects...beauty later in life?
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sag_stellium
Knowflake Posts: 198
From: Washington, DC
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 23, 2014 08:44 PM
  
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Originally posted by Canadiangirl:
First of all, never call yourself pathetic. You shouldn't put yourself down since it will encourage very negative thinking about yourself. Many women question their beauty as the standards are impossibly high now. (photoshopping models etc) I can understand this mentality, I have only felt pretty later in my life. When I was younger I too felt ugly and only after hearing "I'm pretty" from many people have I started to believe it. It may also be the fact that many people were cruel to me when I was younger and made me feel very ugly.
I think it plays out in many Venus Saturn situations. It's extremely sad. Not putting oneself down is the best suggestion. It's the first step to healing self image issues. Negative belief becomes perceived fact. This creates havoc on future sense of self and future relationships. IP: Logged |
Canadiangirl
Knowflake Posts: 677
From: Canada
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted April 23, 2014 09:23 PM
sag_stellium:
Not putting oneself down is the best suggestion. It's the first step to healing self image issues. Negative belief becomes perceived fact. This creates havoc on future sense of self and future relationships. --Totally agree with you on this. IP: Logged |
moonofneptune
Newflake Posts: 13
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Registered: Jun 2013
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posted April 23, 2014 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by Pure:
I don't think the purpose behind astrology is to work out how beautiful you are.
This isn't my goal in posting this question. quote:
Originally posted by sis:
[B I always looked a lot younger than my age.. Now I am 40. And everybody still says I look a lot younger than my age. but I am bleeding inside because I am getting old. I have such a distaste for aging... Till to this tread, I was blaming Venus Cap 1st hs opposite Saturn in the 7th )& Venus square Pluto ( 8 degree )... [/B]
Maybe the distaste for aging comes from the fact your aspect is an opposition...tension between the planet of beauty and the planet of old age might create this issue. Your comment is interesting to me, though, because I have the trine and I'm not liking aging either. Kibriana and sag_stellium-- I definitely agree with your comments about low self-esteem. I also have issues finding other women attractive. I mean, rarely do I look at another girl, even if other people think she's pretty, and honestly think that girl is pretty. Maybe it's because I'm trying to make myself feel better about my low-self esteem, maybe it's the Libra and Virgo in my chart. IP: Logged |
enchantress299
Knowflake Posts: 722
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Registered: May 2009
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posted April 24, 2014 12:02 AM
I have Saturn sextile Venus (which is conjunct the MC) at 1 degree. So I had this odd thing where, when I was young, I looked older, more mature than my actual age (when I was 13/14, people thought I was 18), but now that I've gotten older, people actually think I'm younger than I am (so now I'm 30, but people often think I'm around 26). It's funny to me. Honestly, I do think that the confidence factor has something to do with it. I was a really awkward kid with pretty low self-esteem, and while my self-esteem isn't always the greatest even now, I feel so much more self assured than I did when I was younger and I can tell that it shows. IP: Logged |
fauxcoat
Knowflake Posts: 455
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Registered: Jan 2014
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posted April 24, 2014 02:12 AM
I have venus opposite Saturn and have always felt unattractive/plain. I was a very cute kid then an awkward looking adolescent/teenager. I had about two or three years where I looked good in my late teens/early 20's, but still it was difficult for me to accept that I looked good. My looks went downhill after the two-three years of looking good and now I can't even have photos taken because I feel so unattractive. I feel hideous. IP: Logged |
WarriorPrincess7
Knowflake Posts: 233
From: Island of Sirens
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted April 24, 2014 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by fauxcoat:
I have venus opposite Saturn and have always felt unattractive/plain. I was a very cute kid then an awkward looking adolescent/teenager. I had about two or three years where I looked good in my late teens/early 20's, but still it was difficult for me to accept that I looked good. My looks went downhill after the two-three years of looking good and now I can't even have photos taken because I feel so unattractive. I feel hideous.
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NeptunianSag
Knowflake Posts: 729
From: Your imagination
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 24, 2014 03:07 PM
Im Venus conjunct Saturn, never been anything special, never felt good enough for societys standard, never really chased by men. I went through a phase in my late teens where i felt attractive, i had nice skin, hair, bright eyes, now that im in my early 20's ive changed quite abit. My skin no longer shines, my hair is very bad condition, its like im aging already :S I make an effort with appearance but still doesn't manage to feel good enough. I think it's only going to get worse for me with age, because looks fade, and right now I'm nothing special. So I'm pessimistic when it comes to my appearance, because I know that I'm not attractive to the majority. I'm also sick of looks obsessed society, yes so what, someone is attractive, like so what? IP: Logged |
visions
Knowflake Posts: 135
From: france
Registered: Feb 2010
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posted April 24, 2014 03:59 PM
well, i am a pisces venus in oppposition to virgo saturn conjunct my virgo ascendant...i disagree with all the beauty with the years goign along with venus-saturn combination. I can say there was some sadness and bad feeling around the awareness of my appearance when i was Young and i learned to cope with this feeling as i am getting older but i doubt about my beauty. And i had better look when i was Young, better hair, better face etc...now with age i am kind of decaying... IP: Logged |
Scorpy_bull92
Newflake Posts: 8
From: Dreamworld, USA
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted April 25, 2014 09:47 AM
In terms of Venus-Saturn:
I have the square, w/ saturn sextile my ascendant, and as the apex of my t-square w/ venus and pluto. Ironically, looking at all these posts, I've always been told I look much older than my age, but in a good way. like wouldn't get carded at the club when I was 18 kinda way.  teehee. But I don't think I ever really struggled w/ self-esteem. I mean have moments, but I also have perspective, and overall I think am a pretty attractive person. My venus saturn plays out w/ me being too career focused to make my romantic relationships work. but that's another story for another day!IP: Logged |
bansheequeen
Knowflake Posts: 122
From: Beachville, USA
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 27, 2014 02:48 AM
I have the conjunct and I was a late late bloomer. I was plain until I became a full blown adult. Not even young adult like complete adult. I didn't "discover" my powers of attraction until then either I was super late to discover makeup and even flattering clothes.People do think I'm much younger than I am. I get mistaken for being a teenager and most of the men that come after me are like 18. Being passive when it comes to love that's a huge bummer. IP: Logged |
visions
Knowflake Posts: 135
From: france
Registered: Feb 2010
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posted April 27, 2014 05:48 AM
how old are you ? because if you are 25-30 and attract 18 men i won't be surprized...i still disagree about the "looking younger at old age". I am 35 and some girlfriend from the past told me i look older...i have had tough year between 25-35...and some feathers gone... but i know one thing surely good with venus-satur; it's that you wear style become more and more close to your look, making you great, the wearstyle taste is refining with year making you picky and finding good balancing color to wear, looking at detail, guessing the little imperfection and so the whole appearance is very refined in the end but yet still sober. for example, as a man i don't wear more than 2 colors on me, but i choose carefully a belt same color as my pant and shoes and sockets, even the Watch or necklace will have same color than the rest making the details at the finest tone and finding a whole balance without overbearing stuff IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
Moderator Posts: 4732
From: Saturn
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 28, 2014 01:57 AM
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Originally posted by moonofneptune:
I read somewhere a few weeks ago that people with Venus/Saturn aspects in the natal chart (particularly positive ones) are typically plain as children but grow into a more attractive appearance. From your own personal observations, do you guys think this can true? Venus is the planet of love and beauty, and Saturn is associated with old age, maturity, sternness, etc. Wouldn't it make sense that Venus/Saturn aspects would create an ugly duckling phenomenon?
I didn't read the whole thread. I relate. I have venus conjunct saturn. I'd rather say that Saturn makes physical looks mature with age but there is always a sense of insecurity that lurks deep down.. IP: Logged |
sis
Knowflake Posts: 185
From:
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted April 30, 2014 02:00 PM
moonofneptune@ venus opposite saturn; could be responsible for distaste for aging. You nailed it. I wonder how the upcoming Pluto conjunct Venus and oppose Saturn transit is going to work out.. I hope I won't get obsessed with looking younger and take extreme precautions to avoid it ! 
Another thing that might be useful for this tread; even though I always feel ugly, I rarely put on a make up, I rarely put an effort to look better. Cause I put a value on what's real...IP: Logged |
visions
Knowflake Posts: 135
From: france
Registered: Feb 2010
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posted May 01, 2014 01:54 AM
yeah it's like something we feel repelling because of lack of self-esteem. ANd to have a good self-esteem venus-saturn has to make real high scores above others to feel good and then be appealing.IP: Logged |
visions
Knowflake Posts: 135
From: france
Registered: Feb 2010
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posted May 01, 2014 02:00 AM
but with age i try to be less hard with myself and try to enjoy myself despite of strong social values that put pressure on you. I will say i feel lighter by being less hard on my self and exerting some detachment from others opinions even if it could be rough for self-esteem. But god i am sick to try to be someone just to be recognized or loved, i want to be myself but i am always afraid t obe criticized, because it's like feeling rejected and re-asserting childhood problem hurting. YET, i think that if you manage to go beyond criticism this aspect can be resolved.IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag
Knowflake Posts: 729
From: Your imagination
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 01, 2014 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by visions:
but with age i try to be less hard with myself and try to enjoy myself despite of strong social values that put pressure on you. I will say i feel lighter by being less hard on my self and exerting some detachment from others opinions even if it could be rough for self-esteem. But god i am sick to try to be someone just to be recognized or loved, i want to be myself but i am always afraid t obe criticized, because it's like feeling rejected and re-asserting childhood problem hurting. YET, i think that if you manage to go beyond criticism this aspect can be resolved.
Always be yourself, you dont have to live up to society to fit in it, you create your own reality with your thoughts. Ive gone through what you said, always expected to "be someone" well, that someone is yourself, not fake. I think everyone gets critisized, even the "perfect" looking ones, unfortunately you cannot please everyone. I think venus saturn makes us wise with this, making us realize that not everyone will like us. The people who critisise are the ones with insecurity issues or are jealous, or too big egos who want to put others down. I have venus-saturn conjunct in aquarius, i realise that its better to do my own thing and go my own way rather than try and please/be accepted by people who dont value or treat me well. I still feel unattractive at times though. This aspect was awful through highschool i had social anxiety.
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