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Topic: Support Group: t.Saturn square Sun
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luisbunuel unregistered
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posted June 12, 2014 12:09 PM
Yes, Doux Reve, do get back to discussing your "problems" - transiting sun square saturn. As it is more important than all the real problems in the entire world, isn't it? IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 164579 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 12, 2014 12:11 PM
Sorry, folks, but luisbunuel has left the building.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen unregistered
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posted June 12, 2014 12:56 PM
Wow! Where did that negativity come from all at once?  anyway, no, Tr SAturn squaring my Moon hasn`t been a joy. Got my heart broken last month, or actualy I am realist enough to say, not my heart, but I don´t know, I feel better now. And the Transit is not even exact yet (second hit, Iwill receive a third one still.)
It is difficult though cause at the same time Tr Saturn is squaring my natal Moon exact, Tr Neptune is squaring my ASC on 7 Sagittarius (I am strict with transit orbs, so I do not even count the 2 degree square to my Mars ).
And yet at the very same time I am going through SA Jupiter= Vertex= Sun/Moon-mp with Transit Jupiter being on my Vertex-Sun/moon-mp axis as well.
Plus Sa Venus is slowly approaching a conjunction to my Moon. plus pr Moon just having passed my Vertx-Sun/Moon-midpoint-axis. And this week exactly, in my tertiary progressions (monthly progressions) I have tp Sun conjunct tp Moon on 7 Gemini exact, which is actually precisely on my natal DESC on 7 Gemini.
So as gruesome the Saturn and Neptune transits are, there is a lot of stuff going on for a new beginning, I think.
Oh btw friday`s Fullmoon is on 22 Gemni-Sagittarius and I wonder if it might still be in orb for contacting my Sun-Mercury-conjunction on 25 Sag.
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Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 9926 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 12, 2014 01:22 PM
Weird luis... Anyway. ---Ceri, I see you've got quite some things going on. New beginning, I hope. That'd be nice. =) I'd definitely count the Full Moon on your Sun/Mercury, it's quite close, actually.  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen unregistered
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posted June 12, 2014 02:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Weird luis... Anyway. ---Ceri, I see you've got quite some things going on. New beginning, I hope. That'd be nice. =) I'd definitely count the Full Moon on your Sun/Mercury, it's quite close, actually. 
I hope it will bring me good things. It overlays my 7th-1st house, too. And Mercury rules my 7th house. And I think there are no nasties aspecting my Sun at the moment. Well, I am going to be on a concert tomorrow, and I looked the beginning of the concert up, and by then Moon will be on 1 Capricorn, exactly on my Sun/Venus and Mercury/Venus-mp. And coincidentally at the exact same position as it was when I first met this singer. Maybe this is a time for finalizing a cycle, finishing up, wrapping up things.
Even Jupiter is exactly oppospite its position when we first met. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7882 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted June 12, 2014 02:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Orange love your posts, doll. You're so funny. 
Luv your posts, too, lamb :-) Wish you post more often IP: Logged |
BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 3419 From: Neptune with PisceanDream, Faith, and Meissieri Registered: Sep 2013
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posted June 12, 2014 02:32 PM
Damn I needed this post three weeks ago when Saturn square Sun hit me!When Saturn (10th) squared my Sun (2nd), I had some financial issues. The paperwork for my summer job got screwed up so I haven't been paid for a month, which well..not good. I had to get some checks expedited so I could pay my bills. Unexpected purchases- had to get my car fixed and other fun things. Also had to deal with stressful situations at work and my supervisor was insanely rude to me. I had to learn to be less reactive to situations and not fire back. I took on more responsibilities and had to cut back on social events to get things done. I've had this transit hit 3 times already and I think at least one more before it's done torturing me. But, it has helped me to patiently keep working towards my goals and strengthen my resolve. On the other hand, it has tested my enthusiasm and energy and forced me to cut losses and conserve my energy when necessary. IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 5403 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted June 12, 2014 02:33 PM
tSaturn is outta angle from my Sun now but when it was exact trine to my sun I was dying in swine flu, literally. Never been so sick in my entire life. Not sure if this applies to discussion here but thought I should mention..I have nSaturn square tSaturn. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7882 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted June 12, 2014 02:46 PM
BellaFenice ,What natal house is ruled by the Sun in your chart? IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 13, 2014 12:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by VenusDiSirius: ... Obvs I am just bragging HELLO Hope you're well and fab.
Hmm... the first day that Saturn is exact square my Sun, transit Sun same day is also exact square my Saturn. But yes you completely win on a serious note are you anticipating anything of importance?I'm well for the most, nice to see you back, I think right before I took my break you were nowhere to be seen so it's cool that you're flittering here and there again  IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 13, 2014 12:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: I usually have strong health, but this was one time when I started having real problems involving the digestive system.
Hey Ceri! I saw your note to me in the Spitr thread but didn't want to respond there cos of the subject, so glad you're posting here! Sorry about your health probs at the square, but it was lifestyle changes that you needed, and implemented, correct? I've seen health problems sometimes in the square, but I only remember having health problems at the opposition due to: major stress, huge workload, continuously running out of time, financial concerns, new workplace, having to run my first workshop (brought up my public speaking anxiety), just loads, so that led to heart problems, but all stress-induced (inflamed cartilage in my chest, then chest pains, then heart attack, over a period of months). /All/ situational. But I did gain more confidence and refined some abilities, so...I guess it evened out? this was all from Virgo in the 2nd. Maybe Saturn just makes us pay a price for what we learn...? Too scary about being locked up, that is scary for a young kid! He sounds like a boy with a mission..... (!) What's neptune sq the asc been like? Sorry Saturn square the Moon has been a B, kiddo my last one was too, hmm, and it took place around same time Neptune was on the Sun...I think I felt like...I was standing in quicksand sometimes, do you feel like that? Jupiter sun/moon sounds like a pleasant respite? At least for a bit?  The sa/venus moon sounds like it must be part of a different dynamic tho..maybe look at Mercury via progressed, solar arc, and jupiter to merc or vice Versa? IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 13, 2014 01:12 AM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Gosh, it feels so good to see you girls here, all in the same thread - Lonake, VenusDi and Ceri... Reminds me of the old times
That's so sweet of you to mention, Doux  And your health issues, do you have them cornered, or are the causes sorta up in the air? Changing any habits to help yourself out, or are those even an issue? I think of 6th and right away besides health I think of the mundane things we have to do to keep our lives in working order. Pluto transiting 6th has made this loud n clear :/IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 13, 2014 01:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: You guys make it sound so much better, the support group thing is actually working.. Feeling miserable, thats doable, i'll take that, sign me in, as long as Saturn stays away from my health, and dont mess my relationshipS, ok? So thats my wish list, Sat. Luckily, at the same time Saturn hits my Sun, Jupiter enters Virgo and conjuncts my battered Sun and ASC/DSC . I cannot begin to tell how in awe with Jupiter i am, he is truely the knight in shining armor for me in my life. In my natal chart, he is in a very strategic position in my 8th house shining his benevolent rays over my asc/dsc, Nodes and Sun with 0' trines and sextilles. Juppy also parallels all that group. And here he comes again just in time to fight off Saturn. I love ya, Jupiter! Mwah. Kiss kiss. Smooches Jup.
Lol @ "doable" yeah it is, haha. Completely do-able. You know right when I posted the opener here I thought back, and in comparison, the opposition for me anyway was actually much worse. So already this thread has helped me, lmao! And I don't have to go back to that opp for 21 yrs so I'm good.  So you have Virgo Sun on dsc? That'd be an interesting post, too, what Jupiter is reflecting then. O wait, uh oh, haha that means Jupiter opp my Sun next yr. O crap. That was my first job that put me before the public in a big way, they had me as their spokesperson. Jupiter through the 2nd, ruling my 5th. This time I will try all my might to stay to myself. I hope it doesn't retro over it cos that would /suck/. So now, please bring good Jupiter Virgo news, ill prob need it to distract me  ... That means also jupiter next year, Doux, will opp your Moon....moving house maybe? Weren't you writing something somewhere about leaving your place?  IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 13, 2014 01:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Oh btw friday`s Fullmoon is on 22 Gemni-Sagittarius and I wonder if it might still be in orb for contacting my Sun-Mercury-conjunction on 25 Sag.
3 degrees sounds good, too much more might be pushing it.IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 13, 2014 02:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by BellaFenice: it has helped me to patiently keep working towards my goals and strengthen my resolve. On the other hand, it has tested my enthusiasm and energy and forced me to cut losses and conserve my energy when necessary.
Glad to see good things come out of this for you. And thanks for posting the house Saturn's transiting through while it makes its aspect to your Sun, I found that helpful.
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Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 9926 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 13, 2014 06:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: Luv your posts, too, lamb :-) Wish you post more often
Haha, what? I post here a ton! Tsk tsk.  quote: Originally posted by Lonake: That's so sweet of you to mention, Doux
Retro Cancer Mars made me do it.  quote: And your health issues, do you have them cornered, or are the causes sorta up in the air? Changing any habits to help yourself out, or are those even an issue? I think of 6th and right away besides health I think of the mundane things we have to do to keep our lives in working order. Pluto transiting 6th has made this loud n clear :/
Not sorted out at all. Up in the air, and actually chronic stuff that doesn't just go away. I need to change my habits big time, I'm in the process of doing that now but whoaa it's hard! When it comes to eating habits and all that. Dang, Pluto in the 6H wasn't nice to you, eh? Sorry about that. 
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Venusian Moon unregistered
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posted June 13, 2014 09:42 AM
My daughter has this in her natal. Anyone have daddy issues with the transit?IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6614 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted June 17, 2014 11:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: Hmm... the first day that Saturn is exact square my Sun, transit Sun same day is also exact square my Saturn. But yes you completely win on a serious note are you anticipating anything of importance?I'm well for the most, nice to see you back, I think right before I took my break you were nowhere to be seen so it's cool that you're flittering here and there again 
Good to see you too!!  The interesting bit with me is that all the action seem to be taken in the period of applying to the exact aspect, so a degree before the conjunction. Exact = smooth sailing. Yes, but the matters in winter rely on the matters in late summer (regarding profession), so I'll have to navigate the both issues and see if there's a tangible connection. I suspected it would be meaningful, since my Saturn is H4 ruler, which makes pSun 90 Saturn akin to pSun/Moon scenarios. What furthers the complication is once the pSun gets to Saturn it will touch Uranus too... #mayhem
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 18, 2014 02:11 AM
Hi Doux! I have faith you will make it work in some way, don't you have natal sun trine saturn? One of the best? You can work it! I have habits I'm in the midst of changing too, so feel free obvs write whatever. If only the little things didn't add up to mountains standing in our paths! And am /way/ eager for Merc to get back to Cancer, feeling as if my balloon has floated away .... ... Venus, apple of my eye, give me a minute to digest what you just wrote. No for real, I was looking at my last square and it jives with what you say, action leading up to the exact aspect. Except this time, bang the gong, saturn will conjunct uranus as a breather of sorts. Too much fun. Will saturn Sag change house for you or remain in the same? I am feeling saturn 5th issues already but it's still in my 4th, mid way through the house; there's some strange cross pollination thing happening. Or maybe it's just sun trying to settle into its progressed trine to uranus. Which is not as comfortable as it sounds. Do you have natal saturn conj uranus? So p.sun will be touching both. Definite change regarding house axis of sun/uranus. Stemming from career change with the other? I hope the best for your Summer/Winter regardless. But regarding Autumn you're on your own. However. I am with you on the mayhem. Next year, as some funny joke? Lol?? Same time saturn square the sun, forgot if it was the second or third pass, uranus will opp mars in orb. So how's that for a Perfect Set-Up for the last pass of saturn over natal uranus. Well-played, transits, well-played. I see sleepless nights in my future that will coincide perfectly with the p.Virgo Asc. Forgot your Mars degree Venus, is it mid? Have you had the Uranus conjunct yet? I envy you!
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 18, 2014 02:30 AM
Just noticed something, saturn through the 5th simultaneously squaring the sun. I may morph into a crotchety old man. : : practices waving disapproving finger:: Ill have to practice dissatisfied faces anyway in prep for p.Virgo Asc. Kill 2 birds.. On the plus side the O face should become incredibly amusing.IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6614 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted June 18, 2014 05:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: Will saturn Sag change house for you or remain in the same? I am feeling saturn 5th issues already but it's still in my 4th, mid way through the house;
No, 9-10° away from H3 cusp. But those transitory degrees are - for the lack of better wording - critical, so they will be felt, late Leo/early Virgo. quote: there's some strange cross pollination thing happening. Or maybe it's just sun trying to settle into its progressed trine to uranus. Which is not as comfortable as it sounds.
The tAspects that mirror the natal are always felt, IME. Even the great Saturn drill in my case gains in prominence given my natal Sun-Saturn trine. I had similar thing with my chart ruler, just like you, from natal square to transiting trine (with Mars) & vice versa (with Pluto). Primarily it reflects in your psychological signature; and as it is wont to happen, when you're changing on your inner plane, you shall receive a huuuge feedback from the surroundings. Eventful for sure!
quote: Do you have natal saturn conj uranus? So p.sun will be touching both. Definite change regarding house axis of sun/uranus. Stemming from career change with the other? I hope the best for your Summer/Winter regardless. But regarding Autumn you're on your own.
I do - but not exact - so it is the beginning of one really drawn out period or reconstructing (add to this the 2015 retro walk of and my Sag pMoon conjoining the aforementioned natal conjuction: then going to its natal position, and sometime after Saturn Return...). H11-H5 axis of the change - I can groove to that.  Oh, I like Autumn - Sun over H1. quote: However. I am with you on the mayhem. Next year, as some funny joke? Lol?? Same time saturn square the sun, forgot if it was the second or third pass, uranus will opp mars in orb. So how's that for a Perfect Set-Up for the last pass of saturn over natal uranus. Well-played, transits, well-played. I see sleepless nights in my future that will coincide perfectly with the p.Virgo Asc. Forgot your Mars degree Venus, is it mid? Have you had the Uranus conjunct yet? I envy you!
THE funniest joke evah! Maybe your pMercury will be your lucky break? I will have tJupiter over pVenus, which is a good thing I believe because tSaturn will graze my nJupiter as well (this irks me a lot). Our comparative experiences will be multilayered then - it's like the haute Saturn, bringing in both Capricorn & Aqua themes. Had it already - 'twas typical MarsDsc/Uranus, with me being nutter (but genius) : ending the relationship and all that... (body musculature rippling, definitely different, but also random, heat waves, adrenaline rush...) The ongoing transit is tUranus Sq nVenus. It was a looong Saturn's and we've been working like the dawgs... #Beatles IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7882 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted June 18, 2014 07:43 PM
Tr Saturn in Scorpio is traveling thru my 8th house now, but its been okay so far. Except that my hypochondria drastically flared up and in the past year i went thru terrible, fake heart attack, fake brain aneurism, fake skin cancer, throat cancer, breast cancer, and i think a fake lupus is shining on the horizon but I'm not convinced yet. Otherwise, its been okay. Ha. IP: Logged |
BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 3419 From: Neptune with PisceanDream, Faith, and Meissieri Registered: Sep 2013
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posted June 18, 2014 08:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: BellaFenice ,What natal house is ruled by the Sun in your chart?
Oops, meant to respond to this earlier- sorry! Sun is ruled by 8th house, heh. IP: Logged |
iliketurtles Knowflake Posts: 382 From: 2099 Registered: Nov 2010
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posted June 19, 2014 07:27 PM
i have this next year. it will be retrograde just when t.nn also conjuncts my natal MC. trust good old saturn to come and crap all over everything. right on cue as per usual  geez im an idiot. sorry its already been over my sun this year in march & during that hideous cardinal cross (everything went pear shaped at that time). it will go over again in november so next year will actually be the third time it gets close to my sun effing hell. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 19, 2014 08:40 PM
... Wow. That was horrible. And on a thread where you're just trying to catch a break? Wow. :: hugs ::IP: Logged | |