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posted June 12, 2014 04:14 AM
  
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I agree that's why I said with heavy earth or water lol. I have all of my libra(sun, moon mercury; my ascendant is just my ascendant lol)in the 12th and I've never been jealous. I think it helps me though because they're all conjunct and there is a constant tug and pull with my Saturn, Mars, Uranus and Neptune.
My boyfriend has pisces moon and cap stellium like myself + cancer ascendant (also like myself) so… maybe we are just not jealous because we have the same standards and "norms" for what you can and cannot do, and we also don't got any extreme pluto aspects either in synastry or natal… (also like 12muddy said)
But I think your right… 12th housers is of course not always too imaginative (in the wrong way) Maybe it has also something to do with the 12th house ruler and its placements? But then again…my 12th house ruler (mercury) is completely f**** lol! IP: Logged |
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posted June 12, 2014 04:45 AM
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Yeah, I just edited my post to mention more on that lol. I channel my Uranian energy in that way too. :)My experiences with extreme jealousy/possessiveness/manipulation: One of the most possessive, jealous people I know is my narcissistic a-hole of a brother...Aries Sun, Gemini Moon. He was abusive to me (in every way) all growing up, and the one time as adults that ended us for good...He's misogynistic and has abused pretty much everyone close to him. My Dad also had serious issues with jealousy/possessiveness, when it came to my Mother; he was abusive and psychotic as well. He had a Leo Sun-Pluto conj. along with a Scorpio Moon. To me, they were examples/lessons of how not to behave...
Sorry ab that.....
I would not have imagined that a leo sign could be possesive, but I agree on aries tough, from personal experience.It's good u saw the "THIS IS WRONG" example, even if with the expense of suffering..:( bcz of the father. I am still learning to cut off from my jealousy and let ppl do whatever the heck they want to. I am really applying that quote- If they love you, they will come around, if not bah,byeee, not worth the pain. But sometimes it's dead rock hard. IP: Logged |
Venusian Moon
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posted June 12, 2014 10:06 AM
Forgot to mention yes Aries can definitely be jealous and possessive.IP: Logged |
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posted June 12, 2014 10:08 AM
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I would have to strongly disagree here, Pisces is suppose to be one of the best matches for Scorpios, why is that...because they like to be possessed not possessive and generally not jealous either. Had to be other influences other than pisces in this person's (or others) chart, and given he was a male pisces that (female) energy can easily be eclipse by other planets in his chart.
Haven't seen much about Leo's on here, they can be that way as well, what king wouldn't be possessive over his kingdom.
The pisces i know are deginitely the jealous type but they have Aries moon/Venus.
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posted June 12, 2014 11:10 AM
Both my parents are jealous and possessive types.I think it's cause they have Pluto connected to relationship stuff: Venus conj. Pluto/Uranus for the padre and Pluto in 5H (along with Venus) for the madre. Both have FIXED Suns (Leo & Scorp) and MOON quincunx PLUTO. Also Venus in aspect to Saturn (trine & opp.) I don't have my father's TOB, which is unfortunate cause I don't know the houses. But my mother's DSC ruler is tightly opposed by PLUTO from the 5H. And she has an Aries Moon. Interestingly they're both unfaithful types.
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posted June 12, 2014 01:52 PM
Among men I have noticed Taurus and scorpio men are very possessive.
Among women my sister in law is the most possessive women i ever met. It hurts me so much to even say this. Maybe Libra and leo pairing dont always work well. Even if we talk to our own brother she would call us scream and and use very filthy language. She says things like "are u trying to sl**p with him?" When they were newly married she would call and ask us so many Q's regarding his previous gfs. When we refuse to answer she would imagine the worst possible scenario. Maybe if she were to go to work she might relax a bit i guess.IP: Logged |
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posted June 12, 2014 06:19 PM
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posted June 12, 2014 06:36 PM
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posted June 12, 2014 09:53 PM
I think my jealousy is more delusional if anything lol.I also read that pluto square asc can cause this too. I have this aspect in my natal. It says people with this aspect will be charming and sweet. Next thing you know you will be handcuffed and become their prisoner lol! ------------------
Gemini sun 12th.(Gemini/cancer cusp)
Cancer asc 1st
Taurus moon 11th
Taurus venus 11th
Libra mars 3rd
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Barbiegirl19
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posted June 12, 2014 10:01 PM
Wanted to add more to my post and accidentally deleted. Couldn't undo the delete or go back to it. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted June 12, 2014 10:07 PM
I can be and often there is a "phase" that it is more prominent. I wouldn't say crazy, just persistent. Once security sets in, no problem. 😊
Virgo Venus and Mars
Leo sun
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posted June 12, 2014 11:05 PM
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I think people bring out different sides of others. You could have the most passive, nonchalant, free-spirited placements in your natal, but if you find someone and your synastry is a mess, you could turn into a psychotic, jealous freak. And vice versa. What's your synastry look like?
I have a stellium in Scorpio while also having mars conjunct pluto. Sun conjunct Pluto. Mars conjunct my descendant in Scorpio. Mars is also on my 7th house cusp. I am very, very, very intense, jealous, and possessive. It's probably one of the aspects of my personality that I'd rather not have because I know that if someone doesn't arouse these feelings in me, I'm not that interested. It's a double-edged sword really.. either way, something negative comes from these aspects. I'm learning to deal with it though.. I'm a little more cautious with getting my feelings involved now that I'm older and aware..
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posted June 13, 2014 01:14 AM
From personal experience, it's Pluto, Scorpio, Taurus, strong Fire, Libra, Leo, 10th house strong, and synastry based.I think 12th house people are too lazy and dreamy to be running around jealous. I even read that Pisces people are not jealous people because they tend to love everyone, and really don't care about controlling others, as they are elusive as well. I think if a Pisces person is jealous it may be something else in the chart, but really can't say for sure. IP: Logged |
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posted June 13, 2014 02:09 AM
I definitely get very possessive of my belongings, my /things/. And I make it a big point to not mess with anyone else's stuff, unless its someone im close to and im playing around with them. Has to be someone im close to. Definitely not the kind of person to go to someone's home for the first time and start touching their stuff, I wait til Im asked if I want a seat and then I stay in my seat until i feel compelled to move about, or I ask where the restroom is, etc. instead of mousing around. you know. Manners, lmao!!
It amazes me the people who will come to my home and just start touching my things. I grit my teeth and feel myself semi shaking inside, sooo anxious. I'm not a nervous person usually but that puts me off. I give the other person the benefit of the doubt, but if they get too familiar, ill do my best to distract them "hey, come on over here and help me in the kitchen (so I can keep my eye on you)."
Anyway, moon conj Venus square Pluto. Venus rules the 4th.But with partners, yeah he can look at someone else it's only natural. I notice good looking people too. Last wknd i went out to dinner and had a really attractive waitress and i complimented her cos she had lovely features plus she didnt seem vain and full of herself, she just seemed like a regular nice person.
But if he does it in a disrespectful way and it looks like it's meant to offend (either me or her) and not /appreciate/ then that's just not cool. I guess there's a fine line. I feel like you can compliment someone or give them attention for their physical appearance while still giving them positive attention/respect for their general manner. It is possible. IP: Logged |
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posted June 13, 2014 05:00 AM
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posted June 13, 2014 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
I But with partners, yeah he can look at someone else it's only natural. I notice good looking people too. Last wknd i went out to dinner and had a really attractive waitress and i complimented her cos she had lovely features plus she didnt seem vain and full of herself, she just seemed like a regular nice person.
But if he does it in a disrespectful way and it looks like it's meant to offend (either me or her) and not /appreciate/ then that's just not cool. I guess there's a fine line. I feel like you can compliment someone or give them attention for their physical appearance while still giving them positive attention/respect for their general manner. It is possible.
Wow my bf would be in the hospital with a cracked head. IP: Logged |
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posted June 13, 2014 09:30 AM
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The jealousy is how I know I want him lol. But like I know it's the most annoying thing ever even if the other person is the exact same way.
Yes. I dated a guy like this who was 9 years older then me and he was the same way i was. It got draining after a while. My physical, mental, and emotional energy was low. It was horrible.
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posted June 13, 2014 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I've never met a single jealous Libra unless they had heavy Water or Earth in their chart. Even the most insecure ones weren't. I've never been. To me jealousy is a sign of insecurity. I do agree in some ways a libra can be possessive but not jealous. They're too busy trying to keep balance than be jealous lol.
My friend is a libra but i think she might have some pluto in her chart. She is crazy and will start huge arguments in the street. Every guy she dates she does this with. The other libras i know are usually busing wh0ring around. IP: Logged |
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posted June 13, 2014 09:36 AM
Barbie girl why did u delete ur reply to me from last night? There was nothing wrong with it and u did have a point lol.IP: Logged |
geminigal2805
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posted June 13, 2014 11:39 PM
Hmmm my extremely possessive and jealous sister-in-law is a Libra sun n moon. My brother is a Leo sun n an aries moon. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted June 14, 2014 06:56 AM
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Wow my bf would be in the hospital with a cracked head.
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posted June 14, 2014 05:27 PM
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posted June 14, 2014 06:03 PM
Aquas are like that too. I said it somewhere else here....they need and demand their freedom whatever that entails but their partner is not included in those terms...Also, Pisces are jealous becasue they are usually insecure, ESPECIALLY when younger!!! Let me paint a clearer pic about Aquarius'. They are humanitarians and very giving and caring and openminded etc etc etc etc BUT when in a relationship, they have opened up doors that normally remain closed so when they sense that their foundation is being rocked, their fixed selves will do some crazy stuff to regain balance. Much like Scorpio, no? So he has Venus and Mars in Aqua (fixed) square Scorpio (fixed) Pluto..... IP: Logged |
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posted June 14, 2014 07:18 PM
From my experience, I believe people with a lot of fire in their charts aren't really possessive or jealous.. they just want everyone and everything to themselves. Also, I noticed that their jealous isn't sincere or real. They'll only be jealous and possessive for as long as they can call you theirs, but as soon as things end, their passion is directed elsewhere. Water signs don't get over things easily and our possessive and controlling natures can last a lifetime if we never heal. We don't stop being possessive and jealous even when we're no longer with that person.. well at least that's what I've noticed about the water signs and people with water placements in my life. Our feelings don't change just because the circumstances changed. Fire signs are fickle and flighty. I don't think they really care as much as they claim because once the fire is out, so are they! I hope I'm making my point clear. When water signs hurt or feel any type of emotions for that matter, we may not outwardly express it all the time but you can't bet that we're extremely upset inside. IP: Logged |
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posted June 14, 2014 08:34 PM
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