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hannaramaa
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posted June 14, 2014 09:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People rarely remember Aqua is a fixed sign, so whatever their personality isntheyre sticking to it, and being a fixed sign they are probably more prone to possessiveness more than they'd like to admit.

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starrynight
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posted July 15, 2014 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrynight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The topic is a month old but so close to my heart.

Extremely jealous, possessive, ready to rip your head off /inserted a decent body part here instead of what I thought xd/ if you flirt with that person over there for five seconds? That's me. I don't just get upset, I fly into a rage. But there is also a strange kind of pleasure in it. It's like getting jealous = confirmation of attraction. I like it when my partner gets jealous, too. I feel flattered.

I don't accuse people of cheating, though, it's more like "You are so hot, everyone wants you, don't you dare pay too much attention to them, or you are a dead man, because I want you all to myself." I get super angry if I'm actually accused of actual cheating. Same way around. It's like a guy can yell at me, "Wtf you were doing talking to that guy?!", and I'd smile and flirt him up because it's cute, but if he says "You cheated on me with your ex yesterday?", I'll be super offended and it will become a really nasty fight. I will never throw such an accusation at my partner lightly, either.

My Pluto has no harsh aspects at all. However, there is a Sun-Pluto-BML conjunction.

Scorpio placements.

Someone mentioned Gemini - Gemini Moon. (Though I never thought Gemini had a jealous slant, general sign wise).

Sag placements (once again, I'm going from the stuff mentioned here, because Sagittarius, as a sign, never struck me as a jealous type).

Saturn in exaltation (Libra)
Mars sextile Saturn
Venus conj Saturn
Venus in Earth (Virgo)

No Taurus or Pisces placements.
10th house (MC) in Aries
Leo Rising

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Nicole401
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posted July 16, 2014 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in Sag ... I wonder if that would make my (I'd say ours but not everyone is lol) generation excessively jealous and possesive???

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posted July 16, 2014 02:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted July 16, 2014 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't noticed any unusual trends of jealousy in the Sag Pluto generation coming up.

I have noticed that many who are insanely jealous are also cheaters. If they make a big deal about monogamy (especially if they bring it up for no apparent reason) and how terrible cheaters are and they won't stand for it...so many times they're serial cheaters.

I suppose they could actually feel bad about it and so get up on their high horse (to make up for all the times they fall off) but such a lack of impulse control is nearly impossible for me to understand so I'm going with they act that way because what they mean is anyone other than them better not cheat (like the many people who believe rules and even laws are for everyone else), want to look as if since they condemn cheating and all that so much that they'd therefore never do it (the "protest too much" to look innocent), and/or it's a player's tactics to make sure s/he can play the field while the other does not (so scared of being served up what they're dishing out). So I'd think the placements for such extreme jealousy would be the same placements for serial cheaters.

Though there is the type who just doesn't want to "work at it" anymore and fear the other person "finding a better deal." That's just being lazy with unreasonable selfishness. And also certain drug addicts (meth is especially bad but even alcoholic rages can lead to violently insane jealousy), though that might be more of the same of fearing the partner will "find a better deal" rather than put up with their drug-addicted crap. Take those out (some of whom could also be cheaters in addition) and almost every insanely jealous person I've ever known or heard of were themselves the cheating type (and as for the very rare exception, maybe they just didn't get caught).

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posted July 16, 2014 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deptic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which one of these could cause it for me ?
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posted July 16, 2014 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars square Pluto can be one...

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bansheequeen
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posted July 16, 2014 08:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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I have to admit i'm like that. My placements:


Pluto square Asc
Taurus placements
Venus inconjunct pluto

I have read these can cause that. Pluto square asc is pretty bad.


My synastry experience:


Taurus placements
Scorpio placements

Venus conjunct pluto
Venus square pluto
Venus conjunct mars
Venus square mars
Pluto square Asc

Aries sun, aries moon, and aries venus also can be possessive as well.


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Gemini sun 12th.(Gemini/cancer cusp)
Cancer asc 1st
Taurus moon 11th
Taurus venus 11th
Libra mars 3rd
Gemini mercury 11th

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Randall
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posted July 17, 2014 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can a person like that change?

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posted July 17, 2014 11:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Can a person like that change?

I have tried but its hard. My blood boils and i flip out. It gets annoying because every boyfriend i've ever had seems to get a kick out of my jealousy. They try to say things to add fuel to the fire. I know they are messing with me but i still flip out and react. They respond with a smile. But then get surprised when i am fuming. Not realizing they started it first by being immature.


Im a bit more calmer now that im older but i still get psycho sometimes.


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Gemini sun 12th.(Gemini/cancer cusp)
Cancer asc 1st
Taurus moon 11th
Taurus venus 11th
Libra mars 3rd
Gemini mercury 11th

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posted July 18, 2014 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus/pluto or moon/pluto

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Ibringyouasong
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posted July 06, 2015 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ibringyouasong     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if the guy my friend is dating is possessive - I haven't had the opportunity to be around him too much, but she managed to give me his full information and I drew up his chart along with some of their synastry aspects.

He is:
Aquarius ASC
Taurus Sun
Aquarius Moon
Taurus Mercury
Gemini Venus
Taurus Mars
Libra Pluto

Funnily enough, he's coming up as being Sagittarius dominant. In his natal chart, his Venus trines his Pluto and his Pluto is in the 8th House.

Synastry-wise, they have some intense connections. But, I don't know if it's "possessive."

His Sun Opposite Pluto
Sun Sesquiquadrate Pluto
Moon Trine Pluto
His Moon Square Pluto
Moon Trine Moon
His Moon Trine Lilith
Venus Conjunct Venus
Venus Semi-square Sun
Venus Sesquiquadrate Moon
His Venus Opposite Uranus
His Venus Semi-Sextile Ascendant
His Mars Conjunct Ascendant
Mars Square Pluto
His Mars Opposite Pluto
His Pluto Conjunct Vertex
Pluto Semi-Sextile Vertex
Lilith Trine Lilith

They have IC Conjunct DSC with a wide orb - seven degrees - in Leo (her IC, His DSC). They also have Venus conjunct Mars in their composite, Vertex conjunct DSC, Venus Trine Pluto, Mars Sesquiquadrate Pluto, and Pluto in the 7th House. Pluto is in Scorpio, which is their composite's 8th House.

She is:
Taurus ASC
Gemini Sun
Gemini Moon
Taurus Mercury
Venus in Gemini
Mars in Cancer
Pluto in Scorpio

Her Venus Sesquiquadrates her Pluto, her Mars Trines her Pluto, and her DSC is Scorpio. But her 8th and 7th Houses are entangled together, being that Scorpio is the natural ruler of the 8th...and she has admitted to me, on occasion, that a touch of possessiveness (not like the insanity-inducing kind, but more of the "Me-caveman, you-woman" kind) is attractive to her. But she can be possessive herself. I've seen her get jealous in front of others over an ex-boyfriend once and she has a hard time dealing with things of hers being moved around. She'd throw a fit and try and move them back just because they were hers.

But like I said, I haven't really had the opportunity to hang around her current beau. Any thoughts?


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posted July 06, 2015 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Ibringyouasong! Welcome to LL

(lovely name)

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posted July 06, 2015 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
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I think LIBRA also gets jealous and possessive, but the way they go about it is so passive that you have to be intuitive to pick up on it.


Oops...guilty as charged!!
Libra AC/Pluto/Venus....I will trust you until you give me a reason not to and then I will still appear chill...until you cross some unseen line and I freak out on you. Ill bring up every insecurity or doubt that has been building up over months, all at once. It's not pretty either!

Taurus rules my 8th house, so my 8th house ruler Venus is also my chart ruler and my Venus is conjunct Pluto on AC.
Plus my Venus is on my Anti-Vertex...
Jupiter on DC opposes both Pluto and Venus

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Ibringyouasong
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posted July 06, 2015 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ibringyouasong     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hello Ibringyouasong! Welcome to LL

(lovely name)


Thank you very much! lol. Yeah, I was actually inspired by some Disney lyrics for this name.

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posted July 07, 2015 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel possessive about very few things... so IF I'm possessive about you, take it for what it is -a BIGGG compliment : ))
Who am I kidding? My possessiveness has to do with the feeling of ownership ... that somebody else will upstage me or maybe show affection/love in a better way than what Im capable of... I believe you have to earn your love and respect... just that insecure feeling somebody will take over my rightful place and I will left empty inside, thats when I get possessive. But nowadays Im more secure in my relationship. Initially I had to fight too many inner demons I carried with me from a very bad relationship.
I dont think Im a jealous person. Im always appreciative of others talents/skills/nature..
Gemini sun/11th house
Leo moon/2nd house
Cancer Rising
Pluto opposite Venus

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posted July 08, 2015 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The most jealous and possessive signs are Scorpio (gold medal), Leo (he needs to be the centre of attention and seeks confidence fromhis partner), Capricorn (only because he feels insecure), Taurus (because he loves people as belongings). Jealous aspects can be Venus in hard aspect with Pluto, Mars in hard aspect with Pluto and planets in the 8th house.

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posted August 10, 2015 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellar.pleasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say Venus/Mars square Pluto because I have that natally and oh dear... When I was younger, I was manipulative, jealous, and possessive with a boyfriend that I was with for a few years. I would even come up with some pretty vengeful things to do when he would do something emotionally hurtful. Like slashing tires and putting Nair in shampoo lol! I never followed through though. I swear I've toned it down a bit after a while and am pretty laid back compared to years ago! Lol

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posted August 10, 2015 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RoseLily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I won't go over Pluto aspects, I think the thread went over it again and again, but I'd like to throw in some of my opinion.
I have venus in leo and in fifth house, and I am one hell of a drama queen. I need attention, I need to be noticed and it doesn't take me twice at being ignored to fly into a rage or just quit altogether.
I view people (friends, family, etc) as mine (strong pluto in scorpio and in eight house opposite mars in taurus does that I think) and I highly despise anyone trying do what I see as "stealing" them from me.
They automatically become my rival in my mind. I don't have jealousy over my partner, but rather I am excessively possessive and hates when someone else do what I feel as inserting themselves in the place that is mine, which isn't always the case ahah.

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posted January 15, 2022 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 18, 2022 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 19, 2022 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by fishbull11:
I would have to strongly disagree here, Pisces is suppose to be one of the best matches for Scorpios, why is that...because they like to be possessed not possessive and generally not jealous either. Had to be other influences other than pisces in this person's (or others) chart, and given he was a male pisces that (female) energy can easily be eclipse by other planets in his chart.
Haven't seen much about Leo's on here, they can be that way as well, what king wouldn't be possessive over his kingdom.

What? No, Pisces does not like to be possessed at all. We are extremely fluid and we need space to roam and BE. I hate it when people even remotely think they can possess me.

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