posted June 27, 2014 10:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Was there tension between your Mom and Dad? If there was, was it apparent or "under the surface"?

And do you experience the same tension in your relationships? Maybe choosing partners that "square" off with you, pick fights with you or are very unstable?

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Yeah, there was tension, and it was apparent.
They argued a lot, but my Father argued with all of my family members, lol, so it wasn't exclusively her. They split up, not divorced, but I seen him pretty much everyday for a bit after he came back from the clinic, before he went back home.
He didn't live with us, though.

posted June 28, 2014 02:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I have libra sun and moon they're conjunct exact.

My parents were never married, my dad actually cheated on my mom while she was pregnant with me. They spilt of course, my mom had my brother a year and half after me with another guy. My mom and dad slept together again and had my 2nd brother. So to me they're relationship was extremely confusing, and just wrong. They were too young and not ready for the commitment, nor a child. They clearly liked sleeping together though lol.

My relationship means everything to me. I'd die for him. Obsessed with each other and our love for one another.

So I dunno I don't see any correlation between the two. My mom has Scorpio moon and my dad has Aries. He's a Leo and she is a Taurus.

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Weird. My parents are a Leo and Taurus too. Same genders too. Married because my mom got pregnant and like instantly split up! And I highly suspect it was because my dad cheated on my mom. They really weren't ready to have a kid.

I have sun opp moon. I think conjuncts and oppositions are kinda sorta similar in that they are hard aspects with the same polarity between the signs.

posted June 28, 2014 02:47 AM            

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Originally posted by iliketurtles:
mine are inconjunct. my father was verbally, physically and emotionally abusive towards my mother and occassionally me. i used to hate men, ive also never had a serious relationship

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Same with my boyfriend... His sun and moon are inconjunct by sign and his father was abusive to his mom and him. And he used to really look down on women and never had a serious relationship before me. The only reason he trusted me enough to let me in was because I was so quiet and modest compared to other girls.

Weird.

I had to like. Train him. To be in a relationship. I had to train him to live around a female!

posted June 28, 2014 02:48 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Yes. I have sun in the 10th opposite moon in the 4th.

My mom is a workaholic and my dad almost did not marry her because of this problem. He went forward with it because of a spiritual experience he had. My dad has only been married to my mother.

My dad on the other hand for a long time had a business that was located in the first floor of our home; he has always been the more nourishing type and made me feel loved unconditionally while my mom was more critical, possessive, overprotective and strict. My dad would make me breakfast or dinner and I would and pancakes on Sundays; we made desserts together a few times..he taught me how to swim etc..

I am the main provider right now in my marriage. My husband stays home and he is the one that cooks...he has gotten the 3d printer to work and he works on projects and then something takes off eventually and he starts making money but I am the one that makes the bills get paid happen.

SO I guess yeah..

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Hmm. This is interesting. I guess there are contradictions and then there are good examples of this relationship.

The Sun/Moon opposition is said to often work best when the individual "separates" home life from work life i.e When they are at home, they shouldn't let work cloud their thoughts and when at work, they should leave the home "drama" alone.

I like the way that your relationship redefines stereotypes. I guess it could also be because the one that you grew up knowing the same.

posted June 28, 2014 03:00 AM            

My parents weren't together long. They are barely together to have me. Split up right after I was born and dad moved miles and miles away. I grew up without knowing who he was, only having seen photos. My mom was very cold. Abusive. No emotional displays. If I cried she'd tell me to stop.

I am very devoted to my man. We have a very intense passionate relationship. He is my other half. He has me. Since I met him, the rest of the world doesn't exist. I am very black and white. I want it all or I want nothing. This is why previous attempts at relationships failed, because I would rather be alone than not have the level of intensity I needed. Also I am a completely different person to my boyfriend than I am to the rest of the world.

posted June 28, 2014 04:16 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
That would be explained by the synastry I feel.

Do you have sun square pluto or sun conjunct pluto; what aspects does your sun and moon make to other planets??

My moon rules the 8th and squares neptune so my relationship with my ex who conjuncted my moon was very sexual and with a very strong soulmate quality. That would be explained by synastry and composite though.

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No.I have no major Pluto aspects. I do, however, have Sun-Neptune conjunction in 8th.

I have 4 planets in the 8th actually(Uranus, Sun, Jupiter and Neptune) and the ruler of the 8th house(Jupiter) sits in the 8th.

My boyfriend has Sun conjunct Venus/Saturn and they form a conjunct with my Mars.

I feel his "authority" feel. But I do the same.My Venus/Saturn conjunct aspects his Moon by conjunction.

It is supposed to feel "stiff". But its so passionate and sensual and sexual and and and...

But yeah , if I widen the orb, I can see that my Pluto conjuncts his Venus(and indirectly those planets that conjunct his Venus).

posted June 28, 2014 04:20 AM            

I don't "get" my parents' marriage. It's very complicated, volative, slightly twisted and very intense - it's not love unless we both hurt. They have been through a lot together. Very tight knit. Dad (scorp sun, aries moon, sag venus, cap mars) said he was drawn to her fury (pisces sun/venus, aries moon, aqua mars).

At that time, traditions, social norms n whatnot were strict and quite rigid. It was expected of them to get married in a church n to wear traditional attires. She came to the ceremony wearing a knee-length, v neck silvery dress, high heels and red lipstick. She had him falling in love with her just a little deeper. hah.

posted June 28, 2014 04:24 AM            

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Originally posted by fairaqua:
Sun in Capricorn 5th house
Moon in Aries 8th house

I was always a daddy's girl
My mom and I got along okay when she was sober, but her drinking damaged her relationship with me and her relationship with my father

I always viewed their relationship as normal when I was young, because I didn't know any better.
As I grew older I realized they were more like roommates co-existing.

They slept in different rooms, They never did ANYTHING together. Like, nothing outside of riding in the same car to get something to eat or to family functions (which was limited to mainly Christmas)

When my dad filed for divorce I was a little relieved. I knew the house wasnt happy and I knew they weren't happy.

I wanted my dad to be happy.
My mom was very upset, but I understood why my dad did what he did so I could hardly feel sorry for my mother.

When my dad started dating a family friend I was really happy for him. They have now been married for 11-12 years.

I have made sure communication has stayed open in my relationship. I make sure we spend time together as a family, as a couple, and as individuals.

My sister took a completely different route.

Taurus sun in 12th house
Libra moon in 5th house

She was always at my mom's side.
They loved to go shopping together.
My sister didn't care how drunk and mean my mom got, she liked being right by her side.

Her and my dad have always had an on and off relationship.
My dad just has rules and a way of life about him and she doesn't want to conform.
She's way more sensitive.

Ugh. When they got divorced my sister saw it as my father betraying my mother. She couldn't and wouldn't understand.

When he started dating my sister instantly started disliking the woman (even though we'd known her for YEARS before)
They have bumped heads since. They get along for the sake of family peace now, but my sister I guess sees her as a reason my dad left.

Her relationships are toxic. She gets with these guys who are just ... why? Why would you ever date that person?
A woman beater?
A gay man?
A đrug dealer?
Really?!

I guess she's trying to "save" them.
Idk. Maybe she'll get it right one day.
But I totally see it in her chart.

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The Sun/Moon square nataly is said to bring about a very troubled childhood because of the antagonistic relationship between the mother and the father. As stated earlier in response to another post.

I think, in your sisters case, her Sun/Moon in-conjunct ca have the effect of overlooking everything and anything that is "wrong", for fear of change and to keep this imagined "peace".

It's interesting that she has two signs that don't want to rock the boat and, even more telling, is her Libra Moon that views partnership as a very necessary part of feeling "stable".

Could this pattern be repeated in her relationships too? I suspect so.

She seems to be seeing what she wants to see. I think she may want a "partner" and not pay much attention to the details of the personality of the partner that she seeks.

Its is also likely that with this aspect in ,gives more than she gets.

posted June 28, 2014 04:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Sun square moon. Neither my sun nor my moon are heavily aspected.
My sun in cancer conjuncts the asc, squares mc and inconjuncts neptune.
my moon in aries semisquares mars in gemini.
That's it.
My parents were very young when I was born and my Dad - a serial womanizer - left my mother when she was 8 months pregnant. They hate each other (but my Dad at least tries to control his emotions)and I've been wondering for a long time why they were ever together.

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I don't blame your mother. Your father left her at a very scary point of her life. There is definite resentment there. She was very young and,perhaps,your father stirred in her very strong feelings at the time.

My father stood my mom up at the alter. He apologized profusely,the day after,and said that he'd gotten sidetracked by his friends (who were supposed to be accompanying him to the wedding).

There were many signs even before they got married that she sidestepped. Its a good thing that your parents didn't marry. It would have been difficult(I imagine).

Your mother needs to move past the anger though. Maybe she still feels angry for that young woman she was,years back,that felt betrayed? She should learn to focus on what a blessing the experience turned out to be.

I mean, she had you

posted June 28, 2014 04:37 AM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
When it comes to parents. Kids either become the parents or they break the cycle. Especially if they don't like what they see they either fall victim or work to end up being the complete opposite. Sounds like that's what happened with you. Me too. So I can see the correlation in that you didn't like their "relationship" so consciously or subconsciously you set out to live your love life differently.

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posted June 28, 2014 04:42 AM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
I am very black and white. I want it all or I want nothing. This is why previous attempts at relationships failed, because I would rather be alone than not have the level of intensity I needed. Also I am a completely different person to my boyfriend than I am to the rest of the world.

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posted June 28, 2014 05:09 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Hmm my sun is in cap, moon is in aries. They don't make an aspect.

I don't "get" my parents' marriage. It's very complicated, volative, slightly twisted and very intense - it's not love unless we both hurt. They have been through a lot together. Very tight knit. Dad (scorp sun, aries moon, sag venus, cap mars) said he was drawn to her fury (pisces sun/venus, aries moon, aqua mars).

At that time, traditions, social norms n whatnot were strict and quite rigid. It was expected of them to get married in a church n to wear traditional attires. She came to the ceremony wearing a knee-length, v neck silvery dress, high heels and red lipstick. She had him falling in love with her just a little deeper. hah.

My relationship is lighter. We don't express our love my clawing at each other haha.

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Your Dad's Moon and Venus in fire explains his love for "fiery" women.LOL

You mentioned that your Sun/Moon combo do not make aspects to each other. Do they make an aspect if you use an orb of 10 degrees?

If not, you and I have something in common. Mine don't make an aspect, no matter how big an orb I use.I have Sun in Sagittarius/Moon in Cancer btw.

When I was younger, I didn't focus on family life as I did on my career. But now that I am 30,it's changing; I work closer to home, tend to home improvements and do a lot of "home-related" affairs.

posted June 28, 2014 05:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I don't blame your mother. Your father left her at a very scary point of her life. There is definite resentment there. She was very young and,perhaps,your father stirred in her very strong feelings at the time.

My father stood my mom up at the alter. He apologized profusely,the day after,and said that he'd gotten sidetracked by his friends (who were supposed to be accompanying him to the wedding).

There were many signs even before they got married that she sidestepped. Its a good thing that your parents didn't marry. It would have been difficult(I imagine).

Your mother needs to move past the anger though. Maybe she still feels angry for that young woman she was,years back,that felt betrayed? She should learn to focus on what a blessing the experience turned out to be.

I mean, she had you

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Yes, my mother said that my Dad told her that he would love her but when she got pregnant he promptly changed his opinion/attitude, insisted on an abortion, cheated on her and kicked her out of the house. That's her version.
He claimes that she tricked him in order to have a good life (he comes from a well-to-do family)and that she threatened him to kill him if he does not marry her....
(my moon in aries indicates a fiercy mum)

Unfortunately I don't have their birth times but it's her sun conjuncting his moon but above all he natally has moon square lilith and venus in hard aspects to his uranus & neptune....

I used to blame my mother for getting me involved in their war but today I think she really was sooo taff & kind to have me and to fight for me. Comparing to me Dad she has 10 times his guts; he's a cowardly fat old ward (he really broke her heart. Even 30 years after their separation she still cries when she's a pic of him when he was young)

posted June 28, 2014 01:31 PM            

And as I said, what is so amazing is that she went ahead and married him. I don't understand. My sister concurs with me on this.

Sometimes we will never be able to make sense of people's choices because they seem to defy logic so much.

Anyways, back to your story,your Mom had it bad for your Dad and I think he handled the situation very poorly indeed.

But, as I said, she needs to heal. She really needs to put less focus on those circumstances.They do more harm than good to her.

Is your Dad present in your life now or does he come and go? I think I would be very awkward around him; knowing that he suggested that I be "taken care of" lol. But that's just me.

posted June 28, 2014 01:50 PM            

My parents' relationship was very passionate and unstable. It became abusive and dysfunctional, and they divorced, after several years of mutual hurt and craziness. They still have a volatile energy between them, but it's a bit calmer now that they've been through so much and away from each other.

posted June 28, 2014 01:58 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Weird. My parents are a Leo and Taurus too. Same genders too. Married because my mom got pregnant and like instantly split up! And I highly suspect it was because my dad cheated on my mom. They really weren't ready to have a kid.

I have sun opp moon. I think conjuncts and oppositions are kinda sorta similar in that they are hard aspects with the same polarity between the signs.

When it comes to parents. Kids either become the parents or they break the cycle. Especially if they don't like what they see they either fall victim or work to end up being the complete opposite. Sounds like that's what happened with you. Me too. So I can see the correlation in that you didn't like their "relationship" so consciously or subconsciously you set out to live your love life differently.

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That is odd. I would say maybe we're sisters but my dad has only been married once and when I was 19.

posted June 28, 2014 02:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I have no aspect between my Sun and Moon.

My parents' relationship was very passionate and unstable. It became abusive and dysfunctional, and they divorced, after several years of mutual hurt and craziness. They still have a volatile energy between them, but it's a bit calmer now that they've been through so much and away from each other.

I don't have enough experience to speak about my own relationships. All I know is that I am attracted to people who are unavailable, probably to avoid being hurt/betrayed in a "real" and significant way. When you know the other person wasn't fully in it to begin with, it doesn't hurt as much when they screw up or you get hurt. You kind of saw it coming.

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Oh no.Then when you are in a position like that , you never truly love. You are skirting just between the surface, That is no good. Not good enough at all.

"Reality" would have some people believe that real love is "rare" and that "things are just not the same as they were before" or that there are only few really good lovers available in the world. And somehow, we must find and "hold on" to whomever we meet as there is not more where that comes from.

I defy those things on an everyday basis. There is more than enough love. There is more than enough people to love and , yes, you can create for yourself a relationships that you have dreamed of.

But you have to believe that it is real and possible for you. This you cannot do when you observe "reality" and past data to base your claims that it is impossible.

posted June 28, 2014 03:10 PM            

But not the feeling part.

posted June 28, 2014 03:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
The cerebral part of me knows that, Aries23.
But the feeling part.Thanks for your insight.

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I sound like Oprah there.

posted June 28, 2014 03:28 PM            

Yes, that is right.
I know that, too. But it's not an easy task.

I have a massive Saturn which controls and limits my feelings and expression of feelings. Hm, could be Pluto as well. A combination of those two.