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Topic: Sun/Moon aspects and the parent's relationship.
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 626 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 26, 2014 05:22 PM
Apparently there is a significant correlation between the Sun/Moon position of the native and how she/he viewed or still views the parental relationship/marriage.What is more interesting, however, is how it seems that this pattern could be repeated in their own relationships. Do you find this true for you? I have Sun in Sagittarius and Moon in Cancer. I have no aspects between the two and the internet seems to not have much information within this regards. How I view my parent's relationship?- Confusing.My Mother sacrifices a lot and my Father is just not someone I admire at all.She complains about him but continues to stay. My relationship?- Very passionate.Its very physical and intellectual.We can't keep our hands off each other.
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Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 504 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted June 26, 2014 05:41 PM
I have Sun in Scorpio, moon in libra with a semi-sextile between the two.My parents have been married for 23 years and they knew each other since my mother was 9 years old. Their relationship is very genuine, light-hearted, and intellectual. My mother has a stellium in Gemini (1st house) while my father is Sagittarius with Moon in Taurus, Venus/Mars in Capricorn. My mother's moon is in Aries while everything else is in Gemini. Their relationship is centered around the exchange of ideas and mental stimulation. I view them as the ideal couple. My relationships with guys are very intense and power-oriented. It's nothing like my parents' relationship. I crave my parents' love but I know it's going to be extremely hard to find it in today's generation. I always joke around saying my parents have ruined my chances at happiness in love because they set the bar so high! IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 7688 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 26, 2014 05:45 PM
I've heard that before...I have a Cap sun sextile Pisces moon. My parents' suns and possibly their moons were sextile. I know they loved each other and most of the time, things went smoothly. My mother was a Leo, my father was a Libra. My husband is a Leo sun, Libra moon. Interestingly my parents had a Chiron-Pluto conjunction in synastry, conjunct my sister's sun, opposing my own sun, but trine my moon. So I felt THAT strongly. In composite my husband and I have a kite (a few overlapping kites) where Pluto is at the base (conjunct my Juno) and Chiron is at the apex, conjunct my natal moon. Ahh the geometry of fate...  IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Knowflake Posts: 3999 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted June 26, 2014 05:51 PM
I have libra sun and moon they're conjunct exact. My parents were never married, my dad actually cheated on my mom while she was pregnant with me. They spilt of course, my mom had my brother a year and half after me with another guy. My mom and dad slept together again and had my 2nd brother. So to me they're relationship was extremely confusing, and just wrong. They were too young and not ready for the commitment, nor a child. They clearly liked sleeping together though lol. My relationship means everything to me. I'd die for him. Obsessed with each other and our love for one another. So I dunno I don't see any correlation between the two. My mom has Scorpio moon and my dad has Aries. He's a Leo and she is a Taurus. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 7721 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 26, 2014 05:57 PM
quote: How I view my parent's relationship?- Confusing.My Mother sacrifices a lot and my Father is just not someone I admire at all.She complains about him but continues to stay.
Sounds familiar 
------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
ariestaurus Knowflake Posts: 349 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted June 26, 2014 05:58 PM
My sun is trine my moon My parents have a wonderful, long lasting relationship. People would be lucky to have a relationship like that!My relationships are always really screwed up, though! Nothing like theirs. My sister also has sun trine moon but her relationships have been very positive. Her fiancé is just like my dad- pure gentleman. He's a libra sun, Aries moon, venus scorp, and my dad is a scorp sun, Leo moon, libra venus. My mom has sun conj moon in her natal and her parents' relationship was really f*cked up. Saturn is also conjunct her sun and moon so yeah... IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3564 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted June 26, 2014 06:38 PM
I have a Virgo Sun square Gemini Moon, and my parents Suns and Moons are squared by sign. My Mother is a Cancer Sun with a Pisces Moon, while my Father was a Libra Sun with a Gemini Moon (most likely, since the Moon was in mid-Gemini on his birthday).IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 4663 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted June 26, 2014 06:43 PM
Sun in Cancer opposite Neptune opposite Ascendant square Saturn in 6thMoon in Taurus opposite Midheaven square Uranus Uhh guess which parent I hate the most.  IP: Logged |
iliketurtles Knowflake Posts: 331 From: 2099 Registered: Nov 2010
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posted June 27, 2014 04:54 AM
mine are inconjunct. my father was verbally, physically and emotionally abusive towards my mother and occassionally me. i used to hate men, ive also never had a serious relationship  IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 626 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 27, 2014 05:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by Yanmorg: I have Sun in Scorpio, moon in libra with a semi-sextile between the two.My parents have been married for 23 years and they knew each other since my mother was 9 years old. Their relationship is very genuine, light-hearted, and intellectual. My mother has a stellium in Gemini (1st house) while my father is Sagittarius with Moon in Taurus, Venus/Mars in Capricorn. My mother's moon is in Aries while everything else is in Gemini. Their relationship is centered around the exchange of ideas and mental stimulation. I view them as the ideal couple. My relationships with guys are very intense and power-oriented. It's nothing like my parents' relationship. I crave my parents' love but I know it's going to be extremely hard to find it in today's generation. I always joke around saying my parents have ruined my chances at happiness in love because they set the bar so high!
I think your Dad's Sun with the Venus/Mars Capricorn mix was just too sexy for your mother to resist. Gemini goes in for a Sagittarius with Capricorn placements. I've noticed this. Together with Cancer, they also seem to like a Sagittarius with Scorpio placements too. The semi-sextile aspect of your Sun/Moon combination is interesting. It is said to be more "beneficial" than the semi-square aspect and so, acts more like a "sextile" aspect. My guess is there is enough tolerance for the differences in approach between your domestic life and ambitions outside the home. Both Scorpio and Libra want intimacy. Scorpio wants it HERE and NOW. With Libra, it wants it in small does(a lot more intellectual stimulation first). So there could be a stop/go motion between the two in pursuing the "intimacy" they both want-albeit in differing ways. But your parents seem to have been an easier fit? Which is interesting.But, the again, they knew each other for a very long time. I think you will find a rewarding relationship if you don't give up on your goal of intimacy. This generation is not as "one sided" as you may think lol.
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 626 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 27, 2014 05:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: I've heard that before...I have a Cap sun sextile Pisces moon. My parents' suns and possibly their moons were sextile. I know they loved each other and most of the time, things went smoothly. 
What do you think of it? You seem to fit the idealistic features of what this idea is trying to assert. The easy aspect between your Sun and Moon suggests that these "ease" is something that you may want for yourself too. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 626 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 27, 2014 05:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: I have libra sun and moon they're conjunct exact. My parents were never married, my dad actually cheated on my mom while she was pregnant with me. They spilt of course, my mom had my brother a year and half after me with another guy. My mom and dad slept together again and had my 2nd brother. So to me they're relationship was extremely confusing, and just wrong. They were too young and not ready for the commitment, nor a child. They clearly liked sleeping together though lol. My relationship means everything to me. I'd die for him. Obsessed with each other and our love for one another. So I dunno I don't see any correlation between the two. My mom has Scorpio moon and my dad has Aries. He's a Leo and she is a Taurus.
This also seems to fit the model of what is described. Your natal Sun/Moon in Libra conjunct suggests passion and intense feelings between your parents. As such,the conjunct between your two luminaries is said to bring about a "all or nothing" approach to love.Which is what you have described.Conjuncts are also "extremes" I dated someone who had Taurus Sun/Moon in Taurus and he was very demonstrative. But I don't know if he was " all or nothing" with us. He also never spoke much about his parents but was a real romantic. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 626 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 27, 2014 05:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Sounds familiar 
I don't like it at all because she complains to my sister and I. My sister, as a result, is very suspicious and pessimistic with regards to guys. On the one hand, she has become very smart in avoiding the "wrong types", but then on the other hand, it has also made her too focused on how guys "mess up". She still remembers everything that my father ever did to our mother. She doesn't forget it(Taurus Sun). But my mother will never leave. Not ever.
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 626 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 27, 2014 05:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by ariestaurus: My sun is trine my moon My parents have a wonderful, long lasting relationship. People would be lucky to have a relationship like that!My relationships are always really screwed up, though! Nothing like theirs. My sister also has sun trine moon but her relationships have been very positive.
Hang in there. I swear the Sun/Moon trine can heavily assist you in picking the right person for you. At least you have a good founding base to work from. Your parent's relationship is indeed an ideal that you know is possible because you bear witness to it. I, on the other hand who doesn't have that aspect, have had to consciously "visualize" what I want in order to get it. It's been an interesting journey to work without a basis to "borrow" my ideas from. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 626 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 27, 2014 05:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect: I have a Virgo Sun square Gemini Moon, and my parents Suns and Moons are squared by sign. My Mother is a Cancer Sun with a Pisces Moon, while my Father was a Libra Sun with a Gemini Moon (most likely, since the Moon was in mid-Gemini on his birthday).
Was there tension between your Mom and Dad? If there was, was it apparent or "under the surface"? And do you experience the same tension in your relationships? Maybe choosing partners that "square" off with you, pick fights with you or are very unstable? IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 626 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 27, 2014 05:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: Sun in Cancer opposite Neptune opposite Ascendant square Saturn in 6thMoon in Taurus opposite Midheaven square Uranus Uhh guess which parent I hate the most. 
My guess is "both". The Moon squaring Uranus could suggest that your mother was either a really exciting person or life at home was unstable? Also the opposition to the MC suggests that either her career interfered with the home life or she paid more attnetion to her work than she did you guys. Your Dad doesn't come off that great either(based on aspects IMO). The square to Saturn suggests an inability to be approachable and too stringent. Also, the opposition to Neptune may also suggests an inability to be a "hands on " father, not very reliable or simply not available to fulfill "fatherly" duties when needed.
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 626 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 27, 2014 06:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by iliketurtles: mine are in-conjunct. my father was verbally, physically and emotionally abusive towards my mother and occasionally me. I used to hate men, I've also never had a serious relationship 
Very sorry to hear that.But I think that you should view that relationship as something that your Father and Mother called into their experience(you are not to blame because you did not "intend" it) "Intent" is not limited to wanting something to happen and choosing it the first time, but is also extended to continually choosing that same thing again and again. So your mother should not be absolved from this responsibility. She is also responsible for your father's behavior because , not only did she marry him,but(and even more tragically) she allowed for you to be exposed to all that. She allowed him to be the monster he was and continue the behavior to you too. But you know, from a higher spiritual point of view, the role your father played in your life was in part beneficial. Now you have a clear idea of the kind of environment that you do not want. You can start visualizing, in great detail, the kind of environment that you would like to have and attract into your experience. The challenge here would be for you to avoid "carrying over" this terrible experience and owning it as "yours" and letting it make a statement , from a fundamental level, of your own "worth" as a person. My Father takes advantage of my Mother a lot. But she is also responsible for this behavior as she continually condones it. So I blame them both equally. There are no victims in relationships; just those who do awful things and those who allow these awful things to be done.
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geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 698 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted June 27, 2014 06:26 AM
There is a very wide sextile between Sun n moon in my chart. My dad was working in a foreign country. Sadly i dont see my parents relationship as a very loving one. I didnt see ajy EMOTIONAL n PHysical attachment from her to my dad. My dad was loving whenever he was home. My mom used to snub him. I used to feel bad for him. She is a pisces sun with moon in either virgo or scorpio. My dad was a VIrgo sun with moon in Pisces. In my son's chart Sun in Sag trines Moon in Aries. Hoping my husband and I will always do the right thing and be there for him : )IP: Logged |
geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 698 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted June 27, 2014 06:29 AM
Weird! In my husband's chart, sun sextiles moon. But he used to think his parents were the worst couple ever. That was the general opinion. Even i used to feel extremely uncomfortable with their arguments that used to last all through the night. Very unstable. In my chart there is a very wide sextile btwn sun n moon.IP: Logged |
geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 698 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted June 27, 2014 06:31 AM
Weird! In my husband's chart, sun sextiles moon. But he used to think his parents were the worst couple ever. That was the general opinion. Even i used to feel extremely uncomfortable with their arguments that used to last all through the night. Very unstable. In my chart there is a very wide sextile btwn sun n moon.IP: Logged |
Moon is Lunatic Knowflake Posts: 586 From: Moon, but I visit Mercury and Saturn too Registered: Jun 2013
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posted June 27, 2014 06:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by geminigal2805: Sadly i dont see my parents relationship as a very loving one. I didnt see ajy EMOTIONAL n PHysical attachment from her to my dad.
Yes, same here. My dad even once pointed out that my mother never has said to him that she loves him. And they have been together like almost(?) 30 years? My mother can be really mean too to him, but he can be also mean right back. Overall they seem like friends to me more than a couple. Sun conjunct Moon in Cancer here, ta-da. My moon is also exactly sextile Saturn in 3rd and exactly quincunx Uranus in 1st.
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 626 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 27, 2014 07:56 AM
Its a good thing that you supplied these contrasting examples to me.It confirms, to me, that there is in no way that we can be a "product" of our chart placements i.e Those with good aspects between the Sun/Moon are somehow more "advantaged" because of the good relations between their parents. So,in effect,they are more likely to "effortlessly" repeat these patterns when looking for a mate; in order to mimic that positive relation. We all have the responsibility of taking it upon ourselves to make our own way towards happiness. With the assistance of positive behavior and association with the same. What I could gather,from the Moon and Sun having no aspects in my chart, is that I could either feel "estranged" from my partner or that relations would lack a certain "closeness" As I said earlier, this is the type of relationship that I could infer from my parents. Their experience of their relationship could be entirely different than my perception of it, however. But despite this "lack of relating" between the Sun and moon in my chart, my relationships are very demonstrative and passionate. It could be that my Sun/Moon midpoint is in Libra? So I seek "communion" in my relationships? We live and learn.
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amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 3230 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted June 27, 2014 09:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Apparently there is a significant correlation between the Sun/Moon position of the native and how she/he viewed or still views the parental relationship/marriage.What is more interesting, however, is how it seems that this pattern could be repeated in their own relationships. Do you find this true for you? I have Sun in Sagittarius and Moon in Cancer. I have no aspects between the two and the internet seems to not have much information within this regards. [b]How I view my parent's relationship?- Confusing.My Mother sacrifices a lot and my Father is just not someone I admire at all.She complains about him but continues to stay. My relationship?- Very passionate.Its very physical and intellectual.We can't keep our hands off each other. [/B]
Yes. I have sun in the 10th opposite moon in the 4th. My mom is a workaholic and my dad almost did not marry her because of this problem. He went forward with it because of a spiritual experience he had. My dad has only been married to my mother. My dad on the other hand for a long time had a business that was located in the first floor of our home; he has always been the more nourishing type and made me feel loved unconditionally while my mom was more critical, possessive, overprotective and strict. My dad would make me breakfast or dinner and I would and pancakes on Sundays; we made desserts together a few times..he taught me how to swim etc.. I am the main provider right now in my marriage. My husband stays home and he is the one that cooks...he has gotten the 3d printer to work and he works on projects and then something takes off eventually and he starts making money but I am the one that makes the bills get paid happen. SO I guess yeah.. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 3230 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted June 27, 2014 09:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
[b]My relationship?- Very passionate.Its very physical and intellectual.We can't keep our hands off each other. [/B]
That would be explained by the synastry I feel. Do you have sun square pluto or sun conjunct pluto; what aspects does your sun and moon make to other planets?? My moon rules the 8th and squares neptune so my relationship with my ex who conjuncted my moon was very sexual and with a very strong soulmate quality. That would be explained by synastry and composite though. IP: Logged |
fairaqua Knowflake Posts: 619 From: Registered: Feb 2011
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posted June 27, 2014 09:38 AM
Sun in Capricorn 5th house Moon in Aries 8th houseI was always a daddy's girl My mom and I got along okay when she was sober, but her drinking damaged her relationship with me and her relationship with my father I always viewed their relationship as normal when I was young, because I didn't know any better. As I grew older I realized they were more like roommates co-existing. They slept in different rooms, They never did ANYTHING together. Like, nothing outside of riding in the same car to get something to eat or to family functions (which was limited to mainly Christmas) When my dad filed for divorce I was a little relieved. I knew the house wasnt happy and I knew they weren't happy. I wanted my dad to be happy. My mom was very upset, but I understood why my dad did what he did so I could hardly feel sorry for my mother. When my dad started dating a family friend I was really happy for him. They have now been married for 11-12 years. I have made sure communication has stayed open in my relationship. I make sure we spend time together as a family, as a couple, and as individuals.
My sister took a completely different route. Taurus sun in 12th house Libra moon in 5th house She was always at my mom's side. They loved to go shopping together. My sister didn't care how drunk and mean my mom got, she liked being right by her side. Her and my dad have always had an on and off relationship. My dad just has rules and a way of life about him and she doesn't want to conform. She's way more sensitive. Ugh. When they got divorced my sister saw it as my father betraying my mother. She couldn't and wouldn't understand. When he started dating my sister instantly started disliking the woman (even though we'd known her for YEARS before) They have bumped heads since. They get along for the sake of family peace now, but my sister I guess sees her as a reason my dad left. Her relationships are toxic. She gets with these guys who are just ... why? Why would you ever date that person? A woman beater? A gay man? A đrug dealer? Really?!
I guess she's trying to "save" them. Idk. Maybe she'll get it right one day. But I totally see it in her chart. IP: Logged |