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Topic: "Old Maid" syndrom? Astrological signs of never marrying
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viiv28
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From: kaspichan
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 02, 2014 01:51 PM
  
Hello everyone, I want to ask if there are astrological signs of never having a family or being married? I have full 5 and 7 houses, and as of yet have never been married, but have been engaged 2 times. could it be because I have saturn in the fifth house? IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
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From: Death Star
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 02, 2014 02:07 PM
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I want to ask if there are astrological signs of never having a family or being married?
Do you only mean not experiencing these things despite of wanting them or are you interested in those who choose not to as well?? ------------------
I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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From: nevada
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posted July 02, 2014 02:45 PM
Hello viiv28! Welcome to LL  ------------------
"For all those who believe, expect a miracle.”
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Enneline
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posted July 02, 2014 02:47 PM
I once heard that there are 4 aspects in a woman's Chart that indicate that marriage will probably never happen- Sun hard aspect to Mars
- Mars hard aspect to Saturn,
- Venus harsh to Uranus and Sun-Uranus IP: Logged |
viiv28
Knowflake Posts: 140
From: kaspichan
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 02, 2014 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Do you only mean not experiencing these things despite of wanting them or are you interested in those who choose not to as well??
Hi, thanks for responding, well both are interesting, but in my case I really want them, but they do not happen for me.
I have had many relationships, three serious ones (lasting years), been engaged 2 times, yet no marriage and no kids. Always something happens...
Also have noticed that while I attract a lot of men, a deep relationship does not develop. And I really want it. IP: Logged |
viiv28
Knowflake Posts: 140
From: kaspichan
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 02, 2014 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by Enneline:
I once heard that there are 4 aspects in a woman's Chart that indicate that marriage will probably never happen- Sun hard aspect to Mars
- Mars hard aspect to Saturn,
- Venus harsh to Uranus and Sun-Uranus
Thanks! This is very interesting. Especially the Uranus aspects. A bit relieved that I have none of those. The weird thing is that most of my planets are in the houses of relationships/love/sex. So this should be the place where things happen the most or me. And yet.. lalalinda, thank you for the sweet welcome! :* IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
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From: Death Star
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 02, 2014 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by viiv28:
Hi, thanks for responding, well both are interesting, but in my case I really want them, but they do not happen for me.
I have had many relationships, three serious ones (lasting years), been engaged 2 times, yet no marriage and no kids. Always something happens...
Also have noticed that while I attract a lot of men, a deep relationship does not develop. And I really want it.
Well...I don't want any of these things but I'm open to a relationship more or less. It may never happen though (it's complicated). I too have Saturn in the 5th house. It's part of a stellium. Having planets in romance houses doesn't guarantee a successful love life or even its existence. ------------------
I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
viiv28
Knowflake Posts: 140
From: kaspichan
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 02, 2014 03:41 PM
cappy, thanks. I guess so, but then what is the point of having planets in those houses then ... a bit confused.
Intuitively I feel that Saturn has a lot to do with Old maiden/bachelor syndrome because it is such a serious planet  ) Uranus as well, but for different reasons --because it creates rebellion and chaos and desire or freedom from social norms. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted July 02, 2014 03:47 PM
Hi,what do you have in the 7th house? and how is your 7th house ruler aspected/house/sign?
BTW, you said you had 3 long-term relationships, why do you say "a deep relationship doesn't evolve"?
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olgatheo
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From: Pluto
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 02, 2014 03:49 PM
What about sun/Saturn conj. And afflicted moon or venus to outer planets ???
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My cousin has saturn sq. Venus , venus conj. Uranus , and sun/neptune conj. In the 8th - never married , but alot of short relationships! IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
Knowflake Posts: 9778
From: Death Star
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 02, 2014 03:51 PM
These houses aren't only about romance. And you shouldn't expect things to always go smoothly. Unfortunately life doesn't work that way. Anyway, if you have outer or afflicted planets there, issues are likely. quote:
BTW, you said you had 3 long-term relationships, why do you say "a deep relationship doesn't evolve"?
Maybe they were crappy. Or maybe a relationship that doesn't result in marriage doesn't count to the OP 
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viiv28
Knowflake Posts: 140
From: kaspichan
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 02, 2014 03:56 PM
Hi, I do not want to break any rules with my first messages I.E. if I get too personal and not general please let me know.
So my 7th house is my sun and mercury. Neptune is on descendant
the ruler of the 7th house is Jupiter, he is in the 5th house with exact conjunction (0 degrees) with Saturn. Both of these planets make square with my sun, and sextile with my Venus.
I am saying that they do not develop, because for the past two years I have not been able to form a descent relationship. Had many dates and brief affairs. And in one of those I had very strong feelings, but the other side did not as it turns out. So it was quite painful. IP: Logged |
viiv28
Knowflake Posts: 140
From: kaspichan
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 02, 2014 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by olgatheo:
My cousin has saturn sq. Venus , venus conj. Uranus , and sun/neptune conj. In the 8th - never married , but alot of short relationships!
Omg she has alot of hard influences. I always wondered about sun/neptune, does she have any addictions/ does she live in illusions is she prone to escapism?
Uranus conjunct Venus I imagine is exactly "short" relationships or rebel unconventional relationships.
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LeeLoo2014
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posted July 02, 2014 04:01 PM
Don't worry about it, you're doing fine  ...by the book! lol...and I'm not the IRS  so you're a Sag Sun with Gem ASC, Neptune on DSC, Saturn probably ruling 8th? And Neptune rules MC, maybe? IP: Logged |
viiv28
Knowflake Posts: 140
From: kaspichan
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 02, 2014 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Don't worry about it, you're doing fine ...by the book! lol...and I'm not the IRS so you're a Sag Sun with Gem ASC, Neptune on DSC, Saturn probably ruling 8th? And Neptune rules MC, maybe?
Everything is exactly as you said just Uranus is ruling the MC by seconds And I am a cap sun, but the 7th house is ruled by sag
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viiv28
Knowflake Posts: 140
From: kaspichan
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 02, 2014 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
These houses aren't only about romance. And you shouldn't expect things to always go smoothly. Unfortunately life doesn't work that way. Anyway, if you have outer or afflicted planets there, issues are likely. [QUOTE]BTW, you said you had 3 long-term relationships, why do you say "a deep relationship doesn't evolve"?
Maybe they were crappy. Or maybe a relationship that doesn't result in marriage doesn't count to the OP [/QUOTE]
yes, no baby -- doesn't count JTwo were very very strong --soul in soul, one was cappy. I mean crappy. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted July 02, 2014 04:16 PM
DSC ruler conjunct Saturn so close and Saturn being the ruler of your Sun, it may indicate a marriage/partnership later in life. Do you have any interception? IP: Logged |
Enneline
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posted July 02, 2014 04:25 PM
From what age can someone be called "an old maid"?35/40/45? Please EUROPEAN standards IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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From: South Africa
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 02, 2014 04:26 PM
Why is it that when men don't marry, it seems less of a big deal than when women do the same?The so-called "Old Maid syndrome" makes it seem like there is something inherently "wrong" with the woman.That is why she can't find suitors? But then again, in the past, a woman's status depended very much on how many suitors she had; her "prettiness", the family she came from as well as her "chastity". Astrologically though, marriage is, in my opinion, the domain of the Moon. So,the Moon sign,house position as well as aspects to the Moon, suggest how one may feel about all things matrimonial and thus, their chances of getting married. What is the status of your Moon? IP: Logged |
viiv28
Knowflake Posts: 140
From: kaspichan
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 02, 2014 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
DSC ruler conjunct Saturn so close and Saturn being the ruler of your Sun, it may indicate a marriage/partnership later in life. Do you have any interception?
Is "inception" signs that do not rule houses? i so I have inceptions in my 5th house --Lbra and in my 11th house --Aries. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted July 02, 2014 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Why is it that when men don't marry, it seems less of a big deal than when women do the same?The so-called "Old Maid syndrome" makes it seem like there is something inherently "wrong" with the woman.That is why she can't find suitors?
It's not that, me thinks. In her case, she wants to start a family. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted July 02, 2014 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by viiv28:
Is "inception" signs that do not rule houses? i so I have inceptions in my 5th house --Lbra and in my 11th house --Aries.
There's your clue!...interception Yes, a sign hidden in a house...it will come out, but it needs the right moment, to be ripe...it also needs someone putting planets there, someone with personal planets or ASC/DSC on Libra/Aries axis. Aries/Libra is the axis of marriage. Also, 5th/11th is the axis of love. So they are both a bit blocked (not forever). Your DSC ruler conjunct Saturn is "trapped" there, in the interception, needs to be brought out. My advice: pay more attention to Saturnian types with personal planets on Libra/Aries axis and avoid Neptunian types (and your own Neptunian behavior, if any) for a while IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
Knowflake Posts: 9778
From: Death Star
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 02, 2014 04:42 PM
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So,the Moon sign,house position as well as aspects to the Moon, suggest how one may feel about all things matrimonial and thus, their chances of getting married.
I have a Libra Moon in the 2nd house. Is it me or should I love the idea of marriage? ------------------
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Enneline
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posted July 02, 2014 04:42 PM
I forgot to mention that the aspects I listed are indicators for divorce as well and it seems to be true. All divorced women I know have at least 2 of themIP: Logged |
viiv28
Knowflake Posts: 140
From: kaspichan
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 02, 2014 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
There's your clue!...interception Yes, a sign hidden in a house...it will come out, but it needs the right moment, to be ripe...it also needs someone putting planets there, someone with personal planets or ASC/DSC on Libra/Aries axis. Aries/Libra is the axis of marriage. Also, 5th/11th is the axis of love. So they are both a bit blocked (not forever). Your DSC ruler conjunct Saturn is "trapped" there, in the interception, needs to be brought out. My advice: pay more attention to Saturnian types with personal planets on Libra/Aries axis and avoid Neptunian types (and your own Neptunian behavior, if any) for a while
Oh, man, that sounds very exciting! My love, who broke my heart recently was not a Neptunian type, but his sun was on my descendant in conjunction with my Neptune, and I really had illusions that he is also in love with me and wants something serious with me. Basically, invented the whole thing, after which rude awakening followed...
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