posted July 14, 2014 05:30 AM            

If you do know any, I'd like to know about it, so I can study their charts! And I mean - REALLY difficult, like with many t-squares, stelliums, afflicted planets, intercepted signs, oppositions and squares all over the place, and afflicted house-rulers (especially in 5th and 11th house)

posted July 14, 2014 06:40 AM            

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Originally posted by hodad:
I don't know about the whole chart but a really nasty placement to have is Saturn in the 4th house.Sorrows and affliction in the home and childhood.It's like there is a dark cloud over your entire childhood somehow although of course you may have had some good moments too,but overall there is a lot of pain there,sad experiences,loneliness,abandonment,etc.I have this placement,in Capricorn no less,which has some pluses as far as being responsible,practical,etc but it can be emotionally cold.It does not make for a carefree childhood.I remember a friend asking me 'Did you have a happy childhood?" I thought of hers,where she had a loving closeknit family with nothing bad ever happening as far as I could tell--I did not have that.So it was like no.....
Some celebrities I can think of with this placement are---Madonna,Marilyn Monroe,and Judy Garland.Madonna lost her mother at an early age,and I think she is still affected by it----we all know about Marilyn Monroe's childhood,raised in an orphanage,etc,just super depressing.A sad and lonely childhood can take a lifetime to heal,for these people it really never left them,so with those kind of circumstances to overcome,it could be hard to see how successful they became.
So I would look for lonely cold old Saturn in the 4th house----the house of the home,where you should be happiest----

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Yeah at least I don't have that placement… but I have mars in the 4th, which points to conflicts in the home, and that is awful too. I also have saturn in the 6th, and I always have trouble with finding a nice job…
I have so many squares and oppositions everywhere in my chart that all my rulers are afflicted, except venus, but I have venus in scorpio which is enough trouble in itself anyways.

posted July 14, 2014 07:08 AM            

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Originally posted by hodad:
I don't know about the whole chart but a really nasty placement to have is Saturn in the 4th house.Sorrows and affliction in the home and childhood.It's like there is a dark cloud over your entire childhood somehow although of course you may have had some good moments too,but overall there is a lot of pain there,sad experiences,loneliness,abandonment,etc.I have this placement,in Capricorn no less,which has some pluses as far as being responsible,practical,etc but it can be emotionally cold.It does not make for a carefree childhood.I remember a friend asking me 'Did you have a happy childhood?" I thought of hers,where she had a loving closeknit family with nothing bad ever happening as far as I could tell--I did not have that.So it was like no.....
Some celebrities I can think of with this placement are---Madonna,Marilyn Monroe,and Judy Garland.Madonna lost her mother at an early age,and I think she is still affected by it----we all know about Marilyn Monroe's childhood,raised in an orphanage,etc,just super depressing.A sad and lonely childhood can take a lifetime to heal,for these people it really never left them,so with those kind of circumstances to overcome,it could be hard to see how successful they became.
So I would look for lonely cold old Saturn in the 4th house----the house of the home,where you should be happiest----

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posted July 14, 2014 01:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Meet Brooke Shields.

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posted July 14, 2014 03:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Meet Brooke Shields.

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Umm! Her Jupiter and Sun conj. my Mercury and Vertex. Her Mercury conj my Mars exact Her Moon, MC and Venus conj. my Sun, the last two by <1°. Her Ura and Pluto conjunct my Pluto (I'm 1 year older than her minus 2 weeks)

Interestingly enough she does nothing for either my moon or my venus, which must be why I never followed her much.

Back on topic, she is one giant Mercurial square looking for a place to happen... All Gemini and Sag (and most anyone else) from around late 63 through 65 have some inner planets aspecting off that Uranus/Pluto opp Saturn thing going on, especially since Saturn went retro right in the middle of it. By her time,Saturn was on the way out of it, but Mars was there giving it just a little more strength at the end.

posted July 15, 2014 10:35 AM            

--Childhood--

Have you seen my Childhood?
I'm searching for the world that I come from
'Cause I've been looking around
In the lost and found of my heart...
No one understands me
They view it as such strange eccentricities...
'Cause I keep kidding around
Like a child, but pardon me...

People say I'm not okay
'Cause I love such elementary things...
It's been my fate to compensate,
for the Childhood
I've never known...

Have you seen my Childhood?
I'm searching for that wonder in my youth
Like pirates in adventurous dreams,
Of conquest and kings on the throne...

Before you judge me, try hard to love me,
Look within your heart then ask,
Have you seen my Childhood?

People say I'm strange that way
'Cause I love such elementary things,
It's been my fate to compensate,
for the Childhood I've never known...

Have you seen my Childhood?
I'm searching for that wonder in my youth
Like fantastical stories to share
The dreams I would dare, watch me fly...

Before you judge me, try hard to love me.
The painful youth I've had

Have you seen my Childhood...

posted July 15, 2014 11:03 PM            

I present Albert Einstein

posted July 16, 2014 03:45 PM            

He and I share some stuff, especially that Jup-Uranus conjunction in the 10th.. Hmm if only I'd be interested in technology.