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Topic: 1st House Stellium Issues
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elise11 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: deutschland Registered: Feb 2014
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posted October 14, 2014 03:36 PM
A person I really like has a first house stellium with a cap AC and venus, neptune, uranus, sun, mars and saturn being in the first. Sun, mars and saturn being intercepted in acqua. I wonder if it's worth the effort. I feel he likes me, but I wonder if a cap-acqua combination in the first can really love, I mean, deeply. Any experiences? I would be grateful! Ok, he has a pisces moon, but that could show that he's dreamy but not steadfast at loving. I m taurus heavy, you must know...IP: Logged |
BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 1309 From: Pseudo-Leo with a 1st House Stellium Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 14, 2014 03:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by elise11: A person I really like has a first house stellium with a cap AC and venus, neptune, uranus, sun, mars and saturn being in the first. Sun, mars and saturn being intercepted in acqua. I wonder if it's worth the effort. I feel he likes me, but I wonder if a cap-acqua combination in the first can really love, I mean, deeply. Any experiences? I would be grateful! Ok, he has a pisces moon, but that could show that he's dreamy but not steadfast at loving. I m taurus heavy, you must know...
WHOA! That is me minus the sun and mars. And a Pisces Moon! You can ask me questions in Hearth and Home or Personal Readings, don't want to derail OP's thread. IP: Logged |
PisceanDream Knowflake Posts: 335 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted October 14, 2014 10:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by a_may_gemini: As I said before, NONE of the houses are ruled by any signs. Houses are ruled by planets, but it NOT the planet that supposedly rules the sign in that particular order. It is a false assumption that because Aries is the 1st sign that it would rule the 1st house or that it's the "natural house" of Aries. That's all made up and has zero bearing on how the 1st house operates. In traditional astrology, the backbone of astrology, the Sun's natural nocturnal home is the 4th house and the Sun's natural diurnal home is the 11th house. When people have their Sun placed in the 4th house, they will have what's called accidental dignity, because it's an angular house. However, having your Sun placed in the 11th house regardless of whatever sign it's in will give the Sun some reinforcement so as a result, the person may display quite a bit of confidence because their Sun is considered well-placed. Maybe you equate that level of confidence with Leo, but in reality, it's nothing to do with Leo. It's got everything to do with the Sun and how it behaves when it's in its natural house.
I love astrology and on some levels I miss discussing it, but I cannot be on these forums anymore when people just spread misinformation, draw up wrong conclusions, and are announcing to cyberspace in a boosting manner as if they discovered something that's noteworthy.
ARIES, You can stubbornly believe in whatever you want to believe in, it doesn't matter to me. I only wrote in what I wrote because I thought I'd set the record straight, but I know you and the majority of people on here cannot even grasp basic astrology to know what I'm talking about and will go on tangents about how "right" they are. Your overloaded sense of bravado is just suffocating.
There's no need for offensiveness and hostility. I've always cared about what other people thought and always ask many questions to hear what they have to say and discern the logic behind it. We're here to discuss. We can agree to disagree but I've personally never had any discussion with you nor have I ever preached any "misinformations" to receive such strange, unwarranted insults. Suffocating bravado? I am about the furthest from having that. I'm no Aries, so I'm not sure who you're addressing. All in all, I merely share ideas and seek the opinions of others to better understand my own idea and theirs. There are quite a few people on here with whom I've had my fair share of frustrations so I understand but I'd like it if you didn't involve me in that. Thanks. If you have anything else to contribute, I'd like to hear it. Otherwise, I'm more content with modern astrology... IP: Logged |
PisceanDream Knowflake Posts: 335 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted October 14, 2014 10:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by BellaFenice: WHOA! That is me minus the sun and mars. And a Pisces Moon! You can ask me questions in Hearth and Home or Personal Readings, don't want to derail OP's thread.
You're a Cap ASC with a Pisces Moon?!?!?! UH-OH I should stay away from you since I might fall in love. IP: Logged |
LovelyKitty Knowflake Posts: 467 From: 12th House with pr.moon Registered: Jun 2012
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posted October 15, 2014 03:14 AM
Do you guys ever feel "Arian" in a sense? - Yes , although my 1st stellium is libra but I have many Aries'trait. There's no planet in my Aries sign.Do 1st house stellium people seem Arian to you? -I don't know , people that I can look through their chart . They don't have any stellium in 1st yet. Have you attracted Aries folk, especially if you don't have anything in your chart that justifies attracting them?
I can't stand Aries's folk , I find them very irritating when I near them . Any aries for personal planets are not my favorite, eventhough my 7th house is Aries but I'm not interested in Aries Man. Not sure also , if I attracted the Aries man . I really need a soft personality who can comfort my strong side . Someone who is not always stimulate this part. What are your worst/best traits? - My worst trait is Saturn square moon . I feel depressed and guilt easily without any reason. - My best trait is I am a go-getter person , not only because I have a stellium in1st but I also have Mars conj. Urenus( in2nd ) sext. Ac and Jupiter. What characteristics/behaviors have you noticed about yourself or other 1st house people that is specific to you or other people (as 1st house stellium folk)?
- true 1stH stellium is almost as in a cookbook said. What house is your chart ruler (ASC ruler) in and do you feel heavily preoccupied with the issues of that house? - it conjunct the 2nd cusp , it's a heavy load there because I also have a 2nd stellium. Almost as though your identity serves the purpose of that house?
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 2458 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted October 15, 2014 08:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by a_may_gemini: However, having your Sun placed in the 11th house regardless of whatever sign it's in will give the Sun some reinforcement so as a result, the person may display quite a bit of confidence because their Sun is considered well-placed. Maybe you equate that level of confidence with Leo, but in reality, it's nothing to do with Leo. It's got everything to do with the Sun and how it behaves when it's in its natural house.
This is true for me. I have a sun stellium (cancer) in 11H plus Leo planets in progressed 11H and many people mistake me for a Leo or say that I shine like a "sun" despite myself feeling quite Uranian. Most people I meet think I am a Leo.
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elise11 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: deutschland Registered: Feb 2014
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posted October 15, 2014 02:40 PM
Ah Bellafenice.. I ve been into this guy for 5 1/2 years. But it s a complicated thing. He s 10 years younger and a relationship will just never be, because of both our circumstances. After 3 years of hiding and nothing changed he told me he wanted to have a relationship he can invest upon, sth. for life. That wasn t possible with me. He said he loved me a lot, but then he went abroad and met sb. else. At the end he still said he loved me, but he wanted to break ties because otherwise he could t concentrate on his own life. That s been 1 1/2 years ago. He wrote me for my birthday but I didn t answer. It s not that I still want to be together with him. We have a difficult synastry anyway. It s just that I want to believe he still loves me. I want to be sure about that. Because this way I will always be able to dream about him and that enriches my life. But how can I be sure. That s why I actually need sb who thinks the same way. When he said I was kind of his dreamgirl from my personality and I must know he loved me deeply and " you know that I won t forget you" does that mean he has forgot about me now 1 1/2 years without contact? He told me that when he had his girlfriend,after 1/2 year with her. He told me she was the first one he could imagine a serious relationship with. I guess he is still with her. I just want to know how people like him work. Does he still think about me romantically sometimes? He can be very cold in his outer expression of feelings. Sorry that I put this in your threat Piscesdream, but this kind of taunts me! I really want to apologize IP: Logged |
elise11 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: deutschland Registered: Feb 2014
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posted October 15, 2014 02:46 PM
And for the others, as I can tell about this guy, through the 1st house stellium the energy of the 1st house planets is brought into the open, I believe. The planets are directly expressed. But Aries traits, yes, also, but not at first sight. At first sight you are confronted with all the first house planets and NOT with aries traits. As this person has e.g. neptune and venus on the AC, you encounter neptune and venus. But when you hang out with the person for a longer time you feel he is self- focoused from the way he acts!! Thinks a lot about how he comes across to others. Who he is. How he wants to be seen etc. etc. A lot. Just doesn t tell you. And also naturally thinks about himself first although doesn t intend toIP: Logged |
arcturiann Knowflake Posts: 546 From: Titan Registered: Jun 2013
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posted October 16, 2014 02:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: You feel better after all of that sweet pea? Waste of an effort though, I hardly read any of it. 😱 There's a reason why I've avoided "your forums," which are *threads* dear not forums(that's what you're posting in 😱 ), and what I will continue to do. I found it quite hilarious, as I stated in my first post here, and could NOT contain myself. Thanks for the continuance of making me laugh. Your bitterness and snarky remarks are quite comical. Have a nice day. ✌️
Why do you come to this forum? IP: Logged |
BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 1309 From: Pseudo-Leo with a 1st House Stellium Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 16, 2014 02:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by elise11: Ah Bellafenice.. I ve been into this guy for 5 1/2 years. But it s a complicated thing. He s 10 years younger and a relationship will just never be, because of both our circumstances. After 3 years of hiding and nothing changed he told me he wanted to have a relationship he can invest upon, sth. for life. That wasn t possible with me. He said he loved me a lot, but then he went abroad and met sb. else. At the end he still said he loved me, but he wanted to break ties because otherwise he could t concentrate on his own life. That s been 1 1/2 years ago. He wrote me for my birthday but I didn t answer. It s not that I still want to be together with him. We have a difficult synastry anyway. It s just that I want to believe he still loves me. I want to be sure about that. Because this way I will always be able to dream about him and that enriches my life. But how can I be sure. That s why I actually need sb who thinks the same way. When he said I was kind of his dreamgirl from my personality and I must know he loved me deeply and " you know that I won t forget you" does that mean he has forgot about me now 1 1/2 years without contact? He told me that when he had his girlfriend,after 1/2 year with her. He told me she was the first one he could imagine a serious relationship with. I guess he is still with her. I just want to know how people like him work. Does he still think about me romantically sometimes? He can be very cold in his outer expression of feelings. Sorry that I put this in your threat Piscesdream, but this kind of taunts me! I really want to apologize
You want to do a personal reading? You can post the charts and someone can do analyses for you. I can do a tarot reading for you as well. I can answer some of your questions there too. IP: Logged |
PisceanDream Knowflake Posts: 335 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted October 17, 2014 12:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by LovelyKitty: Do you guys ever feel "Arian" in a sense? - Yes , although my 1st stellium is libra but I have many Aries'trait. There's no planet in my Aries sign.Do 1st house stellium people seem Arian to you? -I don't know , people that I can look through their chart . They don't have any stellium in 1st yet. Have you attracted Aries folk, especially if you don't have anything in your chart that justifies attracting them?
I can't stand Aries's folk , I find them very irritating when I near them . Any aries for personal planets are not my favorite, eventhough my 7th house is Aries but I'm not interested in Aries Man. Not sure also , if I attracted the Aries man . I really need a soft personality who can comfort my strong side . Someone who is not always stimulate this part. What are your worst/best traits? - My worst trait is Saturn square moon . I feel depressed and guilt easily without any reason. - My best trait is I am a go-getter person , not only because I have a stellium in1st but I also have Mars conj. Urenus( in2nd ) sext. Ac and Jupiter. What characteristics/behaviors have you noticed about yourself or other 1st house people that is specific to you or other people (as 1st house stellium folk)?
- true 1stH stellium is almost as in a cookbook said. What house is your chart ruler (ASC ruler) in and do you feel heavily preoccupied with the issues of that house? - it conjunct the 2nd cusp , it's a heavy load there because I also have a 2nd stellium. Almost as though your identity serves the purpose of that house?
- YES
Thank you so so so much. I kinda feel the same towards Aries (as a sign). I think since my pVenus progressed into Aries, I find Aries nature more tolerable! IP: Logged | |