posted October 02, 2014 08:14 PM            

Do you guys ever feel "Arian" in a sense? Do 1st house stellium people seem Arian to you?

Have you attracted Aries folk, especially if you don't have anything in your chart that justifies attracting them?

What are your worst/best traits?

What characteristics/behaviors have you noticed about yourself or other 1st house people that is specific to you or other people (as 1st house stellium folk)?

What house is your chart ruler (ASC ruler) in and do you feel heavily preoccupied with the issues of that house? Almost as though your identity serves the purpose of that house?

How do you feel about 1st house stellium people (in general)?

posted October 03, 2014 11:12 AM            

I am very much focused on myself. I constantly think about me. I think about how I come across to others and pretty much obsessed with how I look ( due to aspects )...

It's hard to tell if I have Aries traits in me caused by the stellium in the 1st house. Hımm. That can be true. I have Mars in Sag conjunct Neptune in the 12th hs. And no planets in Aries except Chiron.... I am both feminine and masculin. I am courageous, fast moving, and independent and aggressive. I'll eat you if you attack me....

posted October 03, 2014 12:09 PM            

I don't think I've always felt centered on myself especially in earlier years and maybe that has something to do with my Libra sun and moon..but more recently I feel like I have started to focus on me a whole lot more.

Now that I remember in the past I have had maybe 2 people say that I was self centered...didn't understand because I never felt that way....I felt I was kind of giving to a fault.

posted October 04, 2014 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by sis:
ı have sun, mercury, venus in Cap in the 1st house.

I am very much focused on myself. I constantly think about me. I think about how I come across to others and pretty much obsessed with how I look ( due to aspects )...

It's hard to tell if I have Aries traits in me caused by the stellium in the 1st house. Hımm. That can be true. I have Mars in Sag conjunct Neptune in the 12th hs. And no planets in Aries except Chiron.... I am both feminine and masculin. I am courageous, fast moving, and independent and aggressive. I'll eat you if you attack me....

I am not into Aries people at all. I rarely make friends with them and as lovers they never attract me.

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Interesting... Do you attract them at all? I also feel Aries don't attract me as much unless they hit my Lilith hard but even then... Aries folk do seem to like me for the most part though.

I am unfortunately not as focused on myself as I should be (Chiron in the 7th opposite my 1st house stellium) although I am quite aware of myself and think about my identity a lot. I have Sun, Mercury, Venus, Saturn in Pisces (all conjunct) and Mars in Aqua all in the 1st. I do, however, care so much about how people view me intellectually.

posted October 04, 2014 11:03 AM            

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Originally posted by astrid_06:
I have Uranus, Jupiter, Part of Fortune, N.Node, and Neptune in the 1st house all in Sag and my AC is in Sag also.

I don't think I've always felt centered on myself especially in earlier years and maybe that has something to do with my Libra sun and moon..but more recently I feel like I have started to focus on me a whole lot more.

Now that I remember in the past I have had maybe 2 people say that I was self centered...didn't understand because I never felt that way....I felt I was kind of giving to a fault.

A lot of my best girl friends have been/are Aries. The guys are attracted to me but I haven'y really been into them

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posted October 04, 2014 11:18 AM            

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Originally posted by starmoon:
my mother has a stellium in the 1st house, her rising, plus her sun, venus, and mercury. she does not come across Aries at all. she actually is her sign much more than anything, she exemplifies the qualities of her own sign and is a "what you see is what you get" type of personality. not much hidden, you feel like the person is what they say. I find 1st house stellium people very genuine actually, no pretense, but very focused on themselves, their looks, having attention on them, etc. but not aries-like, no.

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Do Aries people gravitate towards her? What sign is she? Thank you so much for your feedback.

posted October 04, 2014 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Do Aries people gravitate towards her? What sign is she? Thank you so much for your feedback.

I was wondering quite often about how a 1st house stellium functions as opposed to stelliums of other houses. Whether they take more after their own sign (if personal planets are involved) and appear true to that sign or whether they take more of an Arian undertone... I think a stellium in the 1st house operates differently than a stellium anywhere else, in the sense that the 1st house stellium aggrandizes or makes more apparent the sign of the planets in it as opposed to giving them an Arian quality whereas an 8th house stellium would definitely give the subject at question a more Scorpionic vibe... What do you think?

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personally, i agree with your theory that the 1st stellium actually makes the person *more* libra or *more* scorpio, or whatever the sign is. the people truly are that sign, imo.

posted October 05, 2014 11:03 PM            

My personality is a mix of Virgo(honest, serious, punctual, cannot tolerate uncleaness and sloppiness, lack of confidence), Leo(always try to be open and rightness), Sagittarius(Neptune in Sagittarius in 4th House, loves freedom and travelling),Cancer(Mars in Cancer in 11th house, sensitive and caring, but emotional because Moon trine Mars), Gemini(Moon and Uranus in Scorpio in 3rd house, curious and love to communicate, like to dig the things out till I get the answer or get bored).

Best traits in me, I think, it is honesty, kindness, politeness, not afraid of telling the truth. The worst is I tend to be very emotional, lack of confidence, too pessimistic and not good at writing.

I have very few Aries personality, more Leo and Sagittarius if I have to put the fire element in consideration. I don¡¯t attract Aries people, but one of very close has Aries Sun, Capricorn Moon and Taurus ASC. I attract Taurus (current bf has Taurus Sun/Moon and Aries ASC), Capricorn, Aquarius(first ex was Aquarius, but another very close gf has Aquarius Sun, Sagittarius Moon), Scorpio, Sagittarius, Cancer, Gemini, Leo(second ex has Leo Sun).

posted October 06, 2014 12:14 AM            

Venus, Mercury, Neptune, Uranus (cusp), Saturn in 1st.

Definitely can come across as a little self-centered, but not selfish. Often impulsive and rash at times, but have a strong thirst for life. Plenty of energy and enthusiasm, but the Saturn helps to control this a little. I used to act more Capricorn in nature, but have slowly and surely come out of my shell. I wouldn't say that I come

posted October 07, 2014 05:34 PM            

Whatever rising sign you have is the strongest descriptor of you as a person and how you operate as a general whole. So unless your rising sign is Aries, you're not going to be "Arian" just because you have first house planets, etc.

Planets that are in angular houses (1st, 4th, 7th, 10th) automatically are of noticeable influence and give those planets accidental dignity, regardless if the sign itself is essentially dignified or not.

Whatever axises you have (AC, DC, MC, IC) are also powerful and as such, carry weight in a person's chart. Whatever planets that are near the axises will be prominent as well.

posted October 09, 2014 08:59 PM            

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Originally posted by mollywu:
I have Sun, Venus, BML, North Node( all conjunct ASC) and Saturn in Virgo in 1st house. I was quite shy when I was young, now I am told I am extrovert and easy-going. If I don¡¯t smile, I look very serious. My chart¡¯s ruler, Mercury, and the Jupiter fall in Leo in 12th house. I sway between optimism and pessimism from time to time.

My personality is a mix of Virgo(honest, serious, punctual, cannot tolerate uncleaness and sloppiness, lack of confidence), Leo(always try to be open and rightness), Sagittarius(Neptune in Sagittarius in 4th House, loves freedom and travelling),Cancer(Mars in Cancer in 11th house, sensitive and caring, but emotional because Moon trine Mars), Gemini(Moon and Uranus in Scorpio in 3rd house, curious and love to communicate, like to dig the things out till I get the answer or get bored).

Best traits in me, I think, it is honesty, kindness, politeness, not afraid of telling the truth. The worst is I tend to be very emotional, lack of confidence, too pessimistic and not good at writing.

I have very few Aries personality, more Leo and Sagittarius if I have to put the fire element in consideration. I don¡¯t attract Aries people, but one of very close has Aries Sun, Capricorn Moon and Taurus ASC. I attract Taurus (current bf has Taurus Sun/Moon and Aries ASC), Capricorn, Aquarius(first ex was Aquarius, but another very close gf has Aquarius Sun, Sagittarius Moon), Scorpio, Sagittarius, Cancer, Gemini, Leo(second ex has Leo Sun).

I don¡¯t know who else around me has first 1st stellium. So I cannot tell what kind of people they are.

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posted October 09, 2014 09:05 PM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
LOL yeah. Not necessarily as an Aries, but I do display Aries traits in some ways. I don't really attract Aries for some reasons, but Leos I do. Mostly earth and water signs tbh.

Venus, Mercury, Neptune, Uranus (cusp), Saturn in 1st.

Definitely can come across as a little self-centered, but not selfish. Often impulsive and rash at times, but have a strong thirst for life. Plenty of energy and enthusiasm, but the Saturn helps to control this a little. I used to act more Capricorn in nature, but have slowly and surely come out of my shell. I wouldn't say that I come

My 7th is empty so that tells you all you need to know! lol.

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posted October 09, 2014 09:22 PM            

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Originally posted by a_may_gemini:
The house placements DO NOT correspond to the order of the signs. 1st house does not equal Aries, etc. Neither do the houses correspond to any elements either. All that is false and totally made up in "modern astrology" which further leads to confuse people.

Whatever rising sign you have is the strongest descriptor of you as a person and how you operate as a general whole. So unless your rising sign is Aries, you're not going to be "Arian" just because you have first house planets, etc.

Planets that are in angular houses (1st, 4th, 7th, 10th) automatically are of noticeable influence and give those planets accidental dignity, regardless if the sign itself is essentially dignified or not.

Whatever axises you have (AC, DC, MC, IC) are also powerful and as such, carry weight in a person's chart. Whatever planets that are near the axises will be prominent as well.

None of this has ANYTHING to do with Aries as a sign nor its general characteristics.

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Thank you for your very enthusiastic response. I wasn't making an assertion of some sort, I was merely asking a question. It may not have to do with Aries nature, as a sign, but the 1st house is the house of Aries, regardless. That's not to say that that makes one Arian, necessarily, but that it projects the influences of planets in the 1st house in an Arian way: enthusiastically, energetically, apparently, and even impulsively. I have a Pisces stellium in the 1st house with an Aqua ASC, though I am Piscean in many ways, there's a notable forcefulness in my personality that wouldn't be commonly associated with Pisces nature.

I disagree with your view that having certain planets in houses doesn't mean that they take on characteristics of the sign that naturally rules that house. I think they take on and integrate qualities of the ruling planet first and foremost but influences of the sign are also traceable to some extent.

Just yesterday, I was talking to my Libra Sun classmate and she asked me if I seem Libran to her. I said that I sense more of a Leo and Aqua vibe from her. Guess what? Her Sun was in the 11th and her Moon in the 5th! Surely that can't just be a coincidence.

posted October 09, 2014 10:06 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Thank you for your very enthusiastic response. I wasn't making an assertion of some sort, I was merely asking a question. It may not have to do with Aries nature, as a sign, but the 1st house is the house of Aries, regardless. That's not to say that that makes one Arian, necessarily, but that it projects the influences of planets in the 1st house in an Arian way: enthusiastically, energetically, apparently, and even impulsively. I have a Pisces stellium in the 1st house with an Aqua ASC, though I am Piscean in many ways, there's a notable forcefulness in my personality that wouldn't be commonly associated with Pisces nature.

I disagree with your view that having certain planets in houses doesn't mean that they take on characteristics of the sign that naturally rules that house. I think they take on and integrate qualities of the ruling planet first and foremost but influences of the sign are also traceable to some extent.

Just yesterday, I was talking to my Libra Sun classmate and she asked me if I seem Libran to her. I said that I sense more of a Leo and Aqua vibe from her. Guess what? Her Sun was in the 11th and her Moon in the 5th! Surely that can't just be a coincidence.

I am curious to hear behavioral observations more so than theoretical postulations. But all comments are welcome either way.

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posted October 11, 2014 04:00 AM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Wow, what an interesting combination. What house is your Mercury in? How does it feel to have your NN conjunct your ASC?

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Unluckily, my Mercury falls in 12th house, which adds difficulty in writing(I hate it) esp. when I was in school, Chinese-writing homework was always a big headache to me. I don't know how to write a beautiful article and those fabulous words are too far away from my head, instead, my words sound very dull and plain in each composition. So I never got a good score... Even now, I am still scared of it. a big sigh.....

posted October 11, 2014 09:24 AM            

You're essentially saying the exact same thing we were saying about us feeling "Piscean".

I thought you weren't "Arian" at all, now you are? I rememeber you stressing that, so I'm really confused.

posted October 11, 2014 11:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Funny how DeepFreeze and myself were talking about this exact thing, but in regards to Pisces/12th house, and you were saying the exact opposite of what you're so passionate about here.

You're essentially saying the exact same thing we were saying about us feeling "Piscean".

I thought you weren't "Arian" at all, now you are? I rememeber you stressing that, so I'm really confused.

Now you understand exactly what we meant and were talking about. All of that arguing and bitterness wasted when you clearly agreed.

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I absolutely dislike arguing with people like you, who only see what they want to see instead of reading the argument and contributing rationally and accordingly (based on my interactions with you and you with others). Since you have this need to respond so begrudgingly and bitterly and remark something that couldn't be further from the truth, I will be more than glad to save the mindless chatter that you are engaging in by replying based on pure facts.

Allow me to demonstrate a little comparison between what I said here and what I responded there since you're about 1 word short of calling me hypocritical...

I was wondering quite often about how a 1st house stellium functions as opposed to stelliums of other houses.

Here, I am clearly addressing the issue in terms of the function of the 1st HOUSE not ANY other house, certainly not the 12th, because it is an angular house and is the house we are most often confronted with as interpersonal communicators.

CONT: Whether they take more after their own sign (if personal planets are involved) and appear true to that sign or whether they take more of an Arian undertone...

Note the word "undertone". I use it for a reason (to imply subtlety of influence) instead of using "nature" in the affirmative because that is not the point I'm making.

I think a stellium in the 1st house operates differently than a stellium anywhere else, in the sense that the 1st house stellium aggrandizes or makes more apparent the sign of the planets in it *as opposed to giving them an Arian quality* whereas an 8th house stellium would definitely give the subject at question a more Scorpionic vibe.

BINGO!!! Here, I refuted exactly what you said I'm trying to prove (which probably suggests you didn't read a thing I wrote).

"I thought you weren't "Arian" at all? Now you are?"

The above argument illustrates the exact opposite. I am saying I am not Arian. LOL. Doing this is annoying me already, but I will continue so as to leave no stone unturned.

DF's thread:

"I would say a 12th house Venus in Virgo native is more Neptunian than Piscean."

"Than" is key here. I did not say "not Piscean". I acknowledge the influence but I think the planetary one is more profound.

I also reiterate that very point in this thread:

I think they take on and integrate qualities of the ruling planet first and foremost but influences of the sign are also traceable to some extent. Are. Traceable. To. SOME. EXTENT. I don't think I need to further explain myself here. Moving on.

DF's thread: "Venus in Virgo nature is not like that which is why I say he expresses his Virgo love (focused, singular, careful) through Neptunian ways: unconditionally, poetically, deeply, spiritually."

This thread: It may not have to do with Aries nature, as a sign, but the 1st house is the house of Aries, regardless. *That's not to say that that makes one Arian*, necessarily, but that it projects the influences of planets in the 1st house in an Arian way: enthusiastically, energetically, apparently, and even impulsively.

I would have said Martian way if a) I hadn't already reiterated the point that I believe the planet ruling the house is more influential than the sign of the house and b) because this argument is against the idea that there is absolutely NO influence at all that the person I was responding to suggested. I was arguing for influences "traceable to some extent". Which is something I believe and have not contradicted in DF's thread:

*My nature is NOT Arian.* I am NOT like Aries in my assertion (even though Mars is my most dominant) but I present my Piscean self like Aries in which case I have some Arian undertones. This was my point so I'm not sure what you mean by "if that's the case" seeing as *I did not infer that there is nothing Piscean about the placement*. I did, however, say that it is MORE Neptunian than Piscean which is a valid statement seeing as I have a similar predicament in my chart.

I think I'm being pretty consistent, if I say so myself. This concludes my parallel.

This thread was meant to engage OTHER people's opinions which is why I left out my opinion in the initial post and asked other 1st house stellium people and/or people who know 1st house stellium people for their opinions and observations because I care about what other people have to say regardless of what my point may be.

Now, I don't really know what kind of satisfaction you derived from trying to undermine my credibility in a public forum but you best believe that the effort I put into this post has much less to do with what you say or think but with me protecting my credibility and asserting the consistency of my ideas that you seem so eager to put into question.

You have never participated in any of my forums, never replied to any of my responses to anything but you come here 3 months later to brag and boast that you were right when you aren't? Are you for real? Even DF, despite his extremely rude comment to me in that forum (which I will never forget), has participated and contributed in another thread of mine afterwards and for this he has earned some of my respect.

I have seen and read so many of your arguments and how irrational and defensive and personal you get. So to use your own words against you: "Don't tell me what I meant. Don't you dare. You are not me."

I hope your confusion is now cured. Have a lovely day!

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The other forum from which I referenced myself:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/228529.html

posted October 11, 2014 01:51 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Interesting... Do you attract them at all? I also feel Aries don't attract me as much unless they hit my Lilith hard but even then... Aries folk do seem to like me for the most part though.

I am unfortunately not as focused on myself as I should be (Chiron in the 7th opposite my 1st house stellium) although I am quite aware of myself and think about my identity a lot. I have Sun, Mercury, Venus, Saturn in Pisces (all conjunct) and Mars in Aqua all in the 1st. I do, however, care so much about how people view me intellectually.

So are you a Sag ASC or Cap ASC and what house does the ruler of your ASC fall in? Are you focused on the issues of that house?

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I am a Cap rising. I have Saturn in the 7th house opposing the 1st hs stellium.. Relationships always a challange for me can can make me feel very insecure about myself. ( not firnedships though )...

I am also very Plutonic due to aspects and add to that moon opposite mars... I don't like anyone crossing my boundaries and the fiery nature of Aries, acting without thinking manners can easily **** me off. And I'll show it.

posted October 11, 2014 01:53 PM            

I do not feel in anyway Arian. I, personally, don't feel any Arian influence. If anything I feel my Mars in Libra in the 12th is very much not doing anything of use. It's useless that planet! Someone needs to give it a good kick in the pants!

I have never attracted male Aries friend nor have I dated an Aries man. My father was Aries & four of my best friends I had through out my life have all been Aries women. I just assumed it was because we are all fire and we get each other. But I don't have Leo friends.

I hope that helps your research a bit. But I'm with A_May_Gemini on this. I agree with him/her.

posted October 11, 2014 01:54 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Interesting... Do you attract them at all? I also feel Aries don't attract me as much unless they hit my Lilith hard but even then... Aries folk do seem to like me for the most part though.

I am unfortunately not as focused on myself as I should be (Chiron in the 7th opposite my 1st house stellium) although I am quite aware of myself and think about my identity a lot. I have Sun, Mercury, Venus, Saturn in Pisces (all conjunct) and Mars in Aqua all in the 1st. I do, however, care so much about how people view me intellectually.

So are you a Sag ASC or Cap ASC and what house does the ruler of your ASC fall in? Are you focused on the issues of that house?

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I am a Cap rising. I have Saturn in the 7th house opposing the 1st hs stellium.. Relationships always a challange for me can can make me feel very insecure about myself. ( not firnedships though )...

I am also very Plutonic due to aspects and add to that moon opposite mars... I don't like anyone crossing my boundaries and the fiery nature of Aries, acting without thinking manners can easily **** me off. And I'll show it.

posted October 11, 2014 02:10 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
I display things in an Arian manner but not with an Arian nature, do you identify with that? I'm assuming you're a Leo ASC, what house is your Sun in? I ask this because I wonder whether you feel that the matters of that house preoccupy you or serve the purpose of your stellium. With Chiron in the 7th house opposing my 1st house stellium, I wish I had an empty 7th hahaha!

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posted October 11, 2014 06:57 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
I absolutely dislike arguing with people like you, who only see what they want to see instead of reading the argument and contributing rationally and accordingly (based on my interactions with you and you with others). Since you have this need to respond so begrudgingly and bitterly and remark something that couldn't be further from the truth, I will be more than glad to save the mindless chatter that you are engaging in by replying based on pure facts.

Allow me to demonstrate a little comparison between what I said here and what I responded there since you're about 1 word short of calling me hypocritical...

[b]I was wondering quite often about how a 1st house stellium functions as opposed to stelliums of other houses.

Here, I am clearly addressing the issue in terms of the function of the 1st HOUSE not ANY other house, certainly not the 12th, because it is an angular house and is the house we are most often confronted with as interpersonal communicators.

CONT: Whether they take more after their own sign (if personal planets are involved) and appear true to that sign or whether they take more of an Arian undertone...

Note the word "undertone". I use it for a reason (to imply subtlety of influence) instead of using "nature" in the affirmative because that is not the point I'm making.

I think a stellium in the 1st house operates differently than a stellium anywhere else, in the sense that the 1st house stellium aggrandizes or makes more apparent the sign of the planets in it *as opposed to giving them an Arian quality* whereas an 8th house stellium would definitely give the subject at question a more Scorpionic vibe.

BINGO!!! Here, I refuted exactly what you said I'm trying to prove (which probably suggests you didn't read a thing I wrote).

"I thought you weren't "Arian" at all? Now you are?"

The above argument illustrates the exact opposite. I am saying I am not Arian. LOL. Doing this is annoying me already, but I will continue so as to leave no stone unturned.

DF's thread:

"I would say a 12th house Venus in Virgo native is more Neptunian than Piscean."

"Than" is key here. I did not say "not Piscean". I acknowledge the influence but I think the planetary one is more profound.

I also reiterate that very point in this thread:

I think they take on and integrate qualities of the ruling planet first and foremost but influences of the sign are also traceable to some extent. Are. Traceable. To. SOME. EXTENT. I don't think I need to further explain myself here. Moving on.

DF's thread: "Venus in Virgo nature is not like that which is why I say he expresses his Virgo love (focused, singular, careful) through Neptunian ways: unconditionally, poetically, deeply, spiritually."

This thread: It may not have to do with Aries nature, as a sign, but the 1st house is the house of Aries, regardless. *That's not to say that that makes one Arian*, necessarily, but that it projects the influences of planets in the 1st house in an Arian way: enthusiastically, energetically, apparently, and even impulsively.

I would have said Martian way if a) I hadn't already reiterated the point that I believe the planet ruling the house is more influential than the sign of the house and b) because this argument is against the idea that there is absolutely NO influence at all that the person I was responding to suggested. I was arguing for influences "traceable to some extent". Which is something I believe and have not contradicted in DF's thread:

*My nature is NOT Arian.* I am NOT like Aries in my assertion (even though Mars is my most dominant) but I present my Piscean self like Aries in which case I have some Arian undertones. This was my point so I'm not sure what you mean by "if that's the case" seeing as *I did not infer that there is nothing Piscean about the placement*. I did, however, say that it is MORE Neptunian than Piscean which is a valid statement seeing as I have a similar predicament in my chart.

I think I'm being pretty consistent, if I say so myself. This concludes my parallel.

This thread was meant to engage OTHER people's opinions which is why I left out my opinion in the initial post and asked other 1st house stellium people and/or people who know 1st house stellium people for their opinions and observations because I care about what other people have to say regardless of what my point may be.

Now, I don't really know what kind of satisfaction you derived from trying to undermine my credibility in a public forum but you best believe that the effort I put into this post has much less to do with what you say or think but with me protecting my credibility and asserting the consistency of my ideas that you seem so eager to put into question.

You have never participated in any of my forums, never replied to any of my responses to anything but you come here 3 months later to brag and boast that you were right when you aren't? Are you for real? Even DF, despite his extremely rude comment to me in that forum (which I will never forget), has participated and contributed in another thread of mine afterwards and for this he has earned some of my respect.

I have seen and read so many of your arguments and how irrational and defensive and personal you get. So to use your own words against you: "Don't tell me what I meant. Don't you dare. You are not me."

I hope your confusion is now cured. Have a lovely day!

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You feel better after all of that sweet pea? Waste of an effort though, I hardly read any of it. 😱

There's a reason why I've avoided "your forums," which are *threads* dear not forums(that's what you're posting in 😱 ), and what I will continue to do. I found it quite hilarious, as I stated in my first post here, and could NOT contain myself.

posted October 12, 2014 08:56 AM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Thank you for your very enthusiastic response. I wasn't making an assertion of some sort, I was merely asking a question. It may not have to do with Aries nature, as a sign, but the 1st house is the house of Aries, regardless. That's not to say that that makes one Arian, necessarily, but that it projects the influences of planets in the 1st house in an Arian way: enthusiastically, energetically, apparently, and even impulsively. I have a Pisces stellium in the 1st house with an Aqua ASC, though I am Piscean in many ways, there's a notable forcefulness in my personality that wouldn't be commonly associated with Pisces nature.

I disagree with your view that having certain planets in houses doesn't mean that they take on characteristics of the sign that naturally rules that house. I think they take on and integrate qualities of the ruling planet first and foremost but influences of the sign are also traceable to some extent.

Just yesterday, I was talking to my Libra Sun classmate and she asked me if I seem Libran to her. I said that I sense more of a Leo and Aqua vibe from her. Guess what? Her Sun was in the 11th and her Moon in the 5th! Surely that can't just be a coincidence.

I am curious to hear behavioral observations more so than theoretical postulations. But all comments are welcome either way.

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As I said before, NONE of the houses are ruled by any signs. Houses are ruled by planets, but it NOT the planet that supposedly rules the sign in that particular order. It is a false assumption that because Aries is the 1st sign that it would rule the 1st house or that it's the "natural house" of Aries. That's all made up and has zero bearing on how the 1st house operates.

In traditional astrology, the backbone of astrology, the Sun's natural nocturnal home is the 4th house and the Sun's natural diurnal home is the 11th house. When people have their Sun placed in the 4th house, they will have what's called accidental dignity, because it's an angular house. However, having your Sun placed in the 11th house regardless of whatever sign it's in will give the Sun some reinforcement so as a result, the person may display quite a bit of confidence because their Sun is considered well-placed. Maybe you equate that level of confidence with Leo, but in reality, it's nothing to do with Leo. It's got everything to do with the Sun and how it behaves when it's in its natural house.

I love astrology and on some levels I miss discussing it, but I cannot be on these forums anymore when people just spread misinformation, draw up wrong conclusions, and are announcing to cyberspace in a boosting manner as if they discovered something that's noteworthy.

posted October 12, 2014 10:31 AM            

What about empty houses?
Oh, well then I suppose we turn to what planet rules that sign..?