posted November 04, 2014 10:32 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
We have used it once or twice at work for our newest over-engineered piece of crap.

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posted November 05, 2014 02:31 AM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Just this whole thing.

We on LL (of which I am a part of) are a strange breed.
One thread we're looking at orbs and houses, the next thread we're making lists and the world be damned if you don't follow whichever one we're in the mood for.

But I get it. It's something to do.

I'm not AT ALL offended, if anyone thinks that. I was just thinking deeper but I guess this is a list thread so dammit, KISS! (keep it simple stupid)

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It is a simply thread yes. Personally I also think it's interesting to see that most people who DID make a list, have put the same signs in the buttom and in the top, and then there is a few signs who differ in the middle. It's interesting to me to see that there is some similar thoughts about a strong and weak mars.

posted November 05, 2014 02:57 AM            

Looking at a planet's sign placement, and judging how strong that "sign placement" for that planet is, is just looking through one of the many things that are considered when judging the strength of a planet in a chart.

posted November 05, 2014 03:02 AM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Just this whole thing.

We on LL (of which I am a part of) are a strange breed.
One thread we're looking at orbs and houses, the next thread we're making lists and the world be damned if you don't follow whichever one we're in the mood for.

But I get it. It's something to do.

I'm not AT ALL offended, if anyone thinks that. I was just thinking deeper but I guess this is a list thread so dammit, KISS! (keep it simple stupid)

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posted November 05, 2014 04:20 AM            

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Originally posted by arcturiann:
Although I think it would have helped to define what a "strong mars" is at the beginning, which in my opinion is reflective of a productive utilization of ones assertiveness and will.

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This is also close to how I see it. A strong mars doesnt mean "strong" as in the therm - "has the most physical power" or something like that. No, I see a "strong" mars exactly like a mars that feels comfortable with being assertive about their will and their actions

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Originally posted by jupitersgirl:
I don't understand why people get offended so easily. Weakness in astrology is a term it doesn't mean you are actually weak. It means the planet is uncomfortable expressing its energy in that sign so that the individual can have some challanges.
That's all.
Take it easy.

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Thumps up, this even describes further what I meant with this thread, I'm just really bad at expressing myself (especially in english)

posted November 05, 2014 04:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I'm not sure what this "too simple" and "narrow-thinking" thing is about with a rank list.

Looking at a planet's sign placement, and judging how strong that "sign placement" for that planet is, is just looking through one of the many things that are considered when judging the strength of a planet in a chart.

To think that someone is generalizing because they make a list of sign placement ranks for a planet is completely invalid. It's a rank for "sign placement", not overall strength of a planet (which are also seen from the house, aspects, etc). Now that's not to say that the sign placement means nothing because that's far from the truth, as it is one if not the most important in judging that planet's base/core temperament.

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I find making lists useful way of really probing the nature of signs. An example being on the sweet peas seven sins thread I really thought about the difference bt greed and gluttony, vanity & pride. I thought in great detail !! And then I didn't answer because it was a fun thread and I didn't want to cast a shadow with my over-thinking lol

And actually being simplistic is not really, it's like carving a sculpture to bring out some silhouette, characteristic. Thinking in reverse is actually complicated. On some level, if you can't actually distinguish some tendency I think it actually nullifies astrology. So I think mercurial intellect is actually looking at the pure principles. In theory it should be possible to make a list and if there is disagreement all the better to elucidate each sign.

This is not to have a go at you DF or anyone else. I just think I can see the approach is not as general as it seems

posted November 05, 2014 05:07 AM            

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Originally posted by jupitersgirl:
Lol me too! I have mercury in sag in 29th degree conj neptune, can you imagine? MY MERCURY IS WEEEAAAKKK!!!

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Haha I have libra mercury in 4th square neptune as my closest aspect in my whole chart And also square jupiter and saturn

posted November 05, 2014 05:48 AM            

The whole point of the acronym is that sometimes simple is better. I didn't call anyone simple or stupid. It's actually praising simplicity as sometimes better than complicated. In this case, perhaps easier to have a look at Mars with a list.
Simple as in the approach to find a solution, as opposed to overthinking it. If anything I was poking at myself! (Virgo mercury conjunct Mars, trine jupiter, square a Gemini moon... That's a lot of thinking folks. TOO much thinking)

Put as short as I can possibly make it.
We have a Kuka robot that places molded parts to cool. The cooling station used to be this box of rotating trays that always jammed and crashed, gave us errors with certain sensors, drives locking up.
We replaced it with a table (not a kitchen table. LoL a $100k table)
No moving parts other than 45 little computer type fans.

There.... There's anyone's curiosity done, and you all just fight with each other.

posted November 05, 2014 06:04 AM            

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I didn't call anyone simple or stupid.

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Well Beyonce thinks you did

posted November 05, 2014 06:11 AM            

Df it came across as belittling to me .. in any case I'd have taken it that way if this was my thread

posted November 05, 2014 06:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Well Beyonce thinks you did

You DO know I'm messing around, right?
Because I wasn't sure reading the last post.

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posted November 05, 2014 06:20 AM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I wasn't aware, at all... That anyone even possibly might take it that way though.
Never occurred to me when I said it.

Anyway... Let's get back to this then.

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posted November 05, 2014 06:27 AM            

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Originally posted by florence:
Less so when you explained you were telling yourself not to complicate it, though. I see that differently now

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Yes, exactly.
Thank you for understanding.

posted November 05, 2014 07:57 AM            

You need a frontline soldier or leader, you choose an Aries Mars. You need a spy or a strategist or a EU leader, you choose a Libra Mars. You need a spiritual leader to captivate the crowds, you choose a Pisces Mars etc

posted November 05, 2014 08:02 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What exactly does weak vs strong Mars mean? Mars behaves differently in each sign, it has different action/aggression/initiation/drive strategies, but why would this mean weak vs. strong?

You need a frontline soldier or leader, you choose an Aries Mars. You need a spy or a strategist or a EU leader, you choose a Libra Mars. You need a spiritual leader to captivate the crowds, you choose a Pisces Mars etc

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It's a good point, but that includes house positions and aspects too, to say something in general about how "strong" or "weak" ones mars sign is?

In this thread I just wanted to rank the signs, to see which sign is most "comfortable" in the mars - most "comfortable" with expressing their martian traits(will/anger/action - those things mars stands for)...

The only think I came to realize is that Mars is comfortable in Fire signs and Scorpio, and more "uncomfortable" expressing will and actions in libra, cancer and pisces.