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Topic: Can you rank the Mars sign from strongest to weakest?
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next to neptune
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From: The Moon
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posted November 04, 2014 02:31 AM
  
Can you make a rank where nr. 1 is the most strong(not nesessary physically), has the most power/drive and knows how to assert itself exactly The nr. 12 is the weakest sign who doesnt know how to assert itself so well, doesnt know how to express their anger, and has a very low drive/not so much power Feel free to include house positions too  IP: Logged |
jupitersgirl
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posted November 04, 2014 03:30 AM
I would say the one with the optimal strength and drive is capricorn mars, since it's exalted. Scorpio and Aries mars may come off too strong from time to time since Mars energy is most comfortable and untamed there.IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted November 04, 2014 04:14 AM
1.) Aries Mars
2.) Scorpio Mars
3.) Capricorn Mars
4.) Leo Mars
5.) Aquarius Mars
6.) Sagittarius Mars
7.) Virgo Mars
8.) Gemini Mars
9.) Taurus Mars
10.) Cancer Mars
11.) Pisces Mars
12.) Libra MarsI ranked them from most natural to most unnatural according to how they manifest the marsian energy. This is not to say how the energy is best complimented (exalted), but rather most natural (domicile). I'm not completely satisfied with my ranking, and I might change them later. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted November 04, 2014 04:24 AM
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charlie
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posted November 04, 2014 04:26 AM
My SO has a Cap Mars (Aries Sun) and I have a Virgo Mars conj Asc. I am MUCH more driven and aggressive than he is!! By a distance. I personally think that when a planet sits on an angle it outshines planets just floating around in houses. My Jupiter on MC is a perfect example as well.His daughter has an Aries Mars and she is the biggest cry-baby ever. Literally. I find Aries energy rather.....umm disorganized so my vote goes to Scorpio Mars on top and then perhaps Leo Mars. Pisces at the bottom along with Cancer. IP: Logged |
next to neptune
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From: The Moon
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posted November 04, 2014 04:38 AM
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
1.) Aries Mars
2.) Scorpio Mars
3.) Capricorn Mars
4.) Leo Mars
5.) Aquarius Mars
6.) Sagittarius Mars
7.) Virgo Mars
8.) Gemini Mars
9.) Taurus Mars
10.) Cancer Mars
11.) Pisces Mars
12.) Libra MarsI ranked them from most natural to most unnatural according to how they manifest the marsian energy. This is not to say how the energy is best complimented (exalted), but rather most natural (domicile). I'm not completely satisfied with my ranking, and I might change them later.
I just wonderen why taurus mars is so far down on the rank, even under virgo mars? Those with taurus mars I know are very strong IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted November 04, 2014 04:40 AM
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I just wonderen why taurus mars is so far down on the rank, even under virgo mars? Those with taurus mars I know are very strong
I was just gonna mention Taurus Mars but you beat me to it IP: Logged |
ReeseC
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posted November 04, 2014 04:45 AM
I believe for me personally, that Pisces mars in the 7th house has a lot of drive, but its' approach is quite different, than say, Capricorn or Scorpio. I take a more diplomatic approach first and foremost, then use aggression if that doesn't work; I guess, I switch from Pisces to Aries. My Mars is at 29° Pisces quintile my Sun/MC in 10th house and sextile Saturn, so maybe I'm a bit more determined and ambitious than usual. IP: Logged |
jupitersgirl
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posted November 04, 2014 05:07 AM
Your mars also has aries energy in it. I don't think mars in pisces has a strong drive but I think moon signs and mars signs are very linked with each other you have to interpret them together.IP: Logged |
next to neptune
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posted November 04, 2014 05:12 AM
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Originally posted by ReeseC:
I believe for me personally, that Pisces mars in the 7th house has a lot of drive, but its' approach is quite different, than say, Capricorn or Scorpio. I take a more diplomatic approach first and foremost, then use aggression if that doesn't work; I guess, I switch from Pisces to Aries. My Mars is at 29° Pisces quintile my Sun/MC in 10th house and sextile Saturn, so maybe I'm a bit more determined and ambitious than usual.
the 7th house might be an angle house, but it's still the libra house... if you put mars in the houses, I believe that 1st house and 8th house is the strongest? I have a virgo mars in 4th house, it's also an angle, but it's the cancer house. My mars is conjunct sun, opposite moon and square uranus, so it is definitely more aggressive than other mars, but I still have a very hard time asserting myself... my mars have some strong aspects, but the sign and house position itself is not so strong.... IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted November 04, 2014 05:19 AM
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I just wonderen why taurus mars is so far down on the rank, even under virgo mars? Those with taurus mars I know are very strong
Because Taurus Mars is co-detriment. And when a planet is in detriment (or co-detriment - which is detriment but to a lesser extent), the planet cannot express it's energy as naturally to what that specific planet represents. Well Taurus Mars's strength relies more in fortitude (the ability to withstand adversity, consistently) than action and an exertion of force head-on - which Taurus lacks motivation unless provoked to do so... basically not on their own terms, unlike what marsian energy imparts. As Marsian energy imparts a more pioneering initiative. But for a sign that's co-detriment, it exceeds astrological standards being at 9th place, imo. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted November 04, 2014 06:08 AM
1 - Scorpio and Aries (because Mars is dignified and happily at home, so they have no problems with being assertive)
2 - Leo and Capricorn (Leo Mars are often very confident. Leo is ruled by the Sun which is Mars-friendly so it suits the energy of Mars. Capricorn is the exaltation, very decisive and thorough - they pre-plan everything and tend to be high achievers.
3 - Aquarius (It's co-ruled by Saturn/Uranus .. so many Aqua Mars people are driven and never at a lack of energy)
4 - Libra (The diplomats! They are actually very good in debates and politics.. so whatever they lack in physical action, they make up for in mental sharpness)
5 - Sagittarius (They have clear goals and aim high.. but they can sometimes get sidetracked - when the more serious side of life takes its toll on them)
6. - Taurus and Cancer (Dare I say the "L" word? lol Taurus Mars tends to have a lazy streak... but they can also be very persistent once they've really set their mind on someone or something. Cancer Mars is deceptively weak. They have a dark horse vibe. They can appear hyper-sensitive but there's also a lot of hidden strength)
7. - Gemini and Virgo (TOO cerebral and mutable for Mars in my opinion. On the bright side - both can very much hold their own in a verbal argument and don't shy away from lively debate)
8 - Pisces (Yes... Pisces... ummm Well Pisces is actually a master manipulator, so Pisces Mars can really work their magic on those around them. They get a *lot* of bees with honey. But they can have some serious self-esteem issues and often suffer from lack of self-confidence, so not very assertive) When it comes to houses, I'd say it's strongest in angular houses, then succedent, then cadent IP: Logged |
ReeseC
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posted November 04, 2014 06:44 AM
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
the 7th house might be an angle house, but it's still the libra house... if you put mars in the houses, I believe that 1st house and 8th house is the strongest?I have a virgo mars in 4th house, it's also an angle, but it's the cancer house. My mars is conjunct sun, opposite moon and square uranus, so it is definitely more aggressive than other mars, but I still have a very hard time asserting myself... my mars have some strong aspects, but the sign and house position itself is not so strong....
I forgot about it being in Libras house....good point. However, I personally don't have a hard time asserting myself, but I like to plan for wars instead of battles; in doing that, It "appears" as though I'm not as asserting myself because I'm saving my energy for the end game...maybe having Mars conjunct Aries point changes things.
I also am not personally manipulative, quite successful for my age, and def not a serial killer.  I love my Mars in Pisces. I admit though, the only thing remotely true(for me) in this thread about MiP is that I can sometimes have low self-esteem, but my Leo Moon tries to make up for that(parallel and quincunx Mars). Edit: this thread went left. IP: Logged |
PisceanDream
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posted November 04, 2014 11:42 AM
1) Aries
2) Capricorn
3) Scorpio
4) Leo
5) Aquarius
6) Virgo
7) Sagittarius
8) Gemini
9) Taurus
10) Cancer
11) Pisces
12) LibraIP: Logged |
hypatia238
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From: Miami
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 04, 2014 11:46 AM
My brother has Taurus mars and is 40 and never moved out of my mother's house.IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted November 04, 2014 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
1) Aries
2) Capricorn
3) Scorpio
4) Leo
5) Aquarius
6) Virgo
7) Sagittarius
8) Gemini
9) Taurus
10) Cancer
11) Pisces
12) Libra
i like this one and would just switch a few 1) Capricorn
2) Aries
3) Leo
4) Scorpio
5) Aquarius
6) Virgo
7) Sagittarius
8) Gemini
9) Taurus
10) Cancer
11) Libra
12) Pisces IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted November 04, 2014 12:10 PM
Every time I see a "list" like this or someone requests such a list, i worry.I think its narrow thinking and plays so much to sign stereotype and prejudice. A position can face challenges from other planets, but a positions is never "weak" from the onset. That is limited thinking IMO. John Lennon
Bill Gates
14th Dalai Lama
Nelson Mandela
Sigmund Freud
Abraham Lincoln
Pope John Paul II
Pope Francis
Nikola Tesla
Margaret Thatcher
Alfred Hitchcock
Liz Green
Vin Diesel
Nicole Kidman
Winston Churchill
Whoopi Goldberg
John D Rockefeller
Charles Darwin
Christopher Columbus
Genghis Khan All Mars in Libra-according astrotheme. And people often associates the display of anger, rage and hostility as something "masculine" and to aspire to???? Whilst being long-suffering, slow to anger, controlled and peace loving as "weak". Then I am definitely on the "weak" list.
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ReeseC
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posted November 04, 2014 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Every time I see a "list" like this or someone requests such a list, i worry.I think its narrow thinking and plays so much to sign stereotype and prejudice. A position can face challenges from other planets, but a positions is never "weak" from the onset. That is limited thinking IMO. John Lennon
Bill Gates
14th Dalai Lama
Nelson Mandela
Sigmund Freud
Abraham Lincoln
Pope John Paul II
Pope Francis
Nikola Tesla
Margaret Thatcher
Alfred Hitchcock
Liz Green
Vin Diesel
Nicole Kidman
Winston Churchill
Whoopi Goldberg
John D Rockefeller
Charles Darwin
Christopher Columbus
Genghis Khan All Mars in Libra-according astrotheme. And people often associates the display of anger, rage and hostility as something "masculine" and to aspire to???? Whilst being long-suffering, slow to anger, controlled and peace loving as "weak". Then I am definitely on the "weak" list.
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DeepFreeze
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posted November 04, 2014 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
1 - Scorpio and Aries (because Mars is dignified and happily at home, so they have no problems with being assertive)
2 - Leo and Capricorn (Leo Mars are often very confident. Leo is ruled by the Sun which is Mars-friendly so it suits the energy of Mars. Capricorn is the exaltation, very decisive and thorough - they pre-plan everything and tend to be high achievers.
3 - Aquarius (It's co-ruled by Saturn/Uranus .. so many Aqua Mars people are driven and never at a lack of energy)
4 - Libra (The diplomats! They are actually very good in debates and politics.. so whatever they lack in physical action, they make up for in mental sharpness)
5 - Sagittarius (They have clear goals and aim high.. but they can sometimes get sidetracked - when the more serious side of life takes its toll on them)
6. - Taurus and Cancer (Dare I say the "L" word? lol Taurus Mars tends to have a lazy streak... but they can also be very persistent once they've really set their mind on someone or something. Cancer Mars is deceptively weak. They have a dark horse vibe. They can appear hyper-sensitive but there's also a lot of hidden strength)
7. - Gemini and Virgo (TOO cerebral and mutable for Mars in my opinion. On the bright side - both can very much hold their own in a verbal argument and don't shy away from lively debate)
8 - Pisces (Yes... Pisces... ummm Well Pisces is actually a master manipulator, so Pisces Mars can really work their magic on those around them. They get a *lot* of bees with honey. But they can have some serious self-esteem issues and often suffer from lack of self-confidence, so not very assertive) When it comes to houses, I'd say it's strongest in angular houses, then succedent, then cadent
I like this because I was sitting here thinking. I don't want to come across like, "Oh cmon. Everybody wins". But I do think, it kind of depends on what each person thinks an ideal mars is.
I like Barbies Cancer Mars. Even though it's supposed to be weak. Man, she can take care of home like nobodys business, and she loves doing it. I love that she does it. That kind of thing. Aries is top, or near top on everyone's list. I had a long term relationship with an Aries mars.... didn't like it. Far too aggressive for my taste, even rude - to perfect strangers. It wasn't for me.
Taurus mars... lazy, but when she got mad.... holy hell. Run for the hills. It just depends on what's expected, to me anyway. Mars is drive and energy. It's going to be focused somewhere in the chart. It's just a matter of where you like it focused. Just my opinion
Similar to how we all like and dislike certain sun signs, etc. Or even sometimes like or dislike some of the same sign. IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted November 04, 2014 01:10 PM
In my opinion:1) Aries
2) Capricorn
3) Scorpio
4) Leo
5) Sagittarius
6) Aquarius
7) Virgo
8) Libra
9) Taurus
10) Gemini
11) Cancer
12) Pisces Honestly, I think Mars is strongest in the fire signs. They have the willpower and strength to go after anything they want and making it happen. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted November 04, 2014 01:11 PM
Mars in libra is suppose be found commonly in high rank military and are known for their strategic thinking.IP: Logged |
PisceanDream
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posted November 04, 2014 01:33 PM
I think what OP meant was what sign is weakest, not in a phenomenological embodied sense, but rather in that it expresses the traditional qualities of Mars most discordantly. At least, that's how I understood it. No one is equivocating Libra Mars with worst Mars but when it does come to Martian energy, much like Pisces, it does not express it as naturally. Everyone you listed were exceptional contributors to human history, from politics to music. No one doubts that for one second, not I. But as you said in your own reflection, being peace-loving and controlled is a Libra Mars thing but not a Martian quality. Mars in Aries takes no **** and would step into the scene, even impulsively, to compete and combat (whether mentally or physically) with someone. They have no problems whatsoever with self-assertion. Pisces and Libra Mars don't because they much prefer harmony and peace and well-manneredness over winning a fight. Don't take it too harshly. Own and harness your energy no matter what it is. This is coming from a Pisces RETROGRADE Mercury and we all know who's the "weak" one in that turf. IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag
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posted November 04, 2014 02:35 PM
Im a retrograde cancer mars opposite Neptune and Uranus, people need to carry me around on a sofa in order for me to do anything. :P IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted November 04, 2014 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
I think what OP meant was what sign is weakest, not in a phenomenological embodied sense, but rather in that it expresses the traditional qualities of Mars most discordantly. At least, that's how I understood it. No one is equivocating Libra Mars with worst Mars but when it does come to Martian energy, much like Pisces, it does not express it as naturally. Everyone you listed were exceptional contributors to human history, from politics to music. No one doubts that for one second, not I. But as you said in your own reflection, being peace-loving and controlled is a Libra Mars thing but not a Martian quality. Mars in Aries takes no **** and would step into the scene, even impulsively, to compete and combat (whether mentally or physically) with someone. They have no problems whatsoever with self-assertion. Pisces and Libra Mars don't because they much prefer harmony and peace and well-reservedness over winning a fight. Don't take it too harshly. Own and harness your energy no matter what it is. This is coming from a Pisces RETROGRADE Mercury and we all know who's the "weak" one in that turf.
Well,I guess i did come off a little defensive. Could you tell from my response?  I just think that "strength"- when measured in gains for oneself instead of benefiting all. Power "over" instead of power within, are all the reasons why the world is the way it is today.  But list on guys. To each his own. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted November 04, 2014 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Well,I guess i did come off a little defensive. Could you tell from my response? I just think that "strength"- when measured in gains for oneself instead of benefiting all. Power "over" instead of power within, are all the reasons why the world is the way it is today. But list on guys. To each his own.
I agree with you. IP: Logged |
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