posted July 19, 2023 11:52 PM            

I still think Pan-Horus befits Taurus as a modern ruler more than Ceres. Pan is a god of shepherds and flocks, whereas Ceres is an agricultural goddess. To me, Ceres seems to have more in common with the Persephone mythology and the agricultural sign of Virgo.

However some folks have been putting Ceres through the paces as a candidate for (modern) rulership of Taurus.

https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/dwarf-planets/ceres/in-depth/

Has anyone experimented with Ceres? Any thoughts?

...as mankind explores the heavens.

HRH

Up on Cripple Creek, she sends me
If I spring a leak, she mends me
I don't have to speak, she defends me
A drunkard's dream if I ever did see one

posted July 28, 2023 02:03 AM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Ailce Bailey said that; Esoteric Astrology.

Leo is still ruled by Sun

Capricorn is still ruled by Saturn

Scorpio is ruled by Mars.

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Something about these three feels both incomplete or unresolved. Perhaps because these esoteric rulers seem to much more accurately reflect our modern 21st + centuries experience and expression.

And so do these three signs- but perhaps aren’t fully reflected due to the reluctance to let go of previous era’s versions of society(sun), resource handling(saturn), wars(mars)…

posted July 28, 2023 02:08 AM            

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Originally posted by HRH-FishAreFish:
Interesting topic...

I still think Pan-Horus befits Taurus as a modern ruler more than Ceres. Pan is a god of shepherds and flocks, whereas Ceres is an agricultural goddess. To me, Ceres seems to have more in common with the Persephone mythology and the agricultural sign of Virgo.

However some folks have been putting Ceres through the paces as a candidate for (modern) rulership of Taurus.

https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/dwarf-planets/ceres/in-depth/

Has anyone experimented with Ceres? Any thoughts?

...as mankind explores the heavens.

HRH

Up on Cripple Creek, she sends me
If I spring a leak, she mends me
I don't have to speak, she defends me
A drunkard's dream if I ever did see one

Up On Cripple Creek ~ The Band

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My feelings on Ceres have been growing to see their rulership as over the ‘cycle’ rather than a sign itself. Ceres’ orbit is nearly spherical and takes about 4.6 years to get all the way around. 12 signs divided into 4ish years.. and each quadrant holds a typical seasonal transit. Two of life and lush, two of decay and harvest.

posted July 28, 2023 09:55 AM            

They are the remnants of an ancient religion before the introduction of patriarchy.

Virgo is now solely depicted as the maiden, but I wouldn’t be surprised if in much older times, Virgo was associated with the entire Moon triade. Healing and magic, attributes of Hecate, have also been connected to Virgo.

posted July 28, 2023 01:33 PM            

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Originally posted by SDragon:
it is our consciousness that perceives the different levels between true and false. One person perceives exoteric rulers as being true, another esoteric and another hierarchal.

I'd compare it to the parable of the 4 blind men and the elephant ; each describing what an elephant is by only touching one aspect of it.

We truly live in our own realities, how great a universe that allows such.

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I agree.