posted November 17, 2014 07:15 PM            

Do you ever open up in relationships?

Specially: Saturn conjunct Moon in Libra.

posted November 18, 2014 12:56 AM            

I have Moon in Capricorn conjunct Saturn exact conjunct Sag Uranus 1 degree and Cap Neptune at 8 degrees with a square to Mars in Aries at 1'21 degrees.

Lots of things at play here.

Personally, I am very happy to have my Moon in detriment with an exact Saturn conjunction. It has given me emotional control over my Scorpio Sun. The only emotion I had trouble controlling growing up was anger and that went away with time and practice. But when I do feel emotions, particularly the more 'feminine' ones, I feel uncomfortable and I don't like that I feel them and they become suppressed. They do come due to the water sun sign.

The emotional control makes me a great ally to have in a crisis but when it comes to sympathy and empathy I have to be benched. I feel for the person but I am uncomfortable in expressing it and being outwardly nurturing - in public. My way of showing my caring is by handling the situation.

I don't have problems with showing affection in sexual relationships - Sun in Scorpio 7th house might make up for that, maybe the Venus in Libra as well.

I don't give off a cold exterior to people. I come off as warm, relaxed, and fairly approachable unless I'm feeling particularly Scorpionic or whatever. I have Taurus Ascendant with Jupiter in the 1st house giving me a jovial demeanor and a hearty laugh.

Not too many insecurities here, or fears, and if I do have that at times I attribute it to the Mars in 12th more than my Moon conj Saturn.

Childhood was awkward as if often attributed to this placement. Not bullied or anything, and if anyone tried I put them in their place quick. I just didn't care enough beyond my closest amigos to be popular. That has changed now in my mid twenties. The 7th house Sun and Venus in the 6th makes me quite popular at work so like most people with this placement I grew into my sociability after the awkwardness.

posted November 18, 2014 02:49 AM            

I was always shy, reclusive, and withdrawn as a child. That has never really changed into adulthood. Thrown into a new group of people, I won't be the one to immediately try and make friends, or try to silently blend in. I will be the one to obviously sit by myself in the corner with my phone for self-entertainment, and observe (this may be in part due to Aqu AC, standing apart). Only after watching for a while, and getting an idea of what type of people are there will I consider socializing. MOON-SATURN people are very cagey with their true selves, in general.

With Libra in particular, SATURN is exalted, and the MOON infuses an absolute aversion to conflict of any kind. The calm, patient, and calculating SATURN can make these types difficult to approach and a hard nut to genuinely crack. Libra MOON ensures a cordial and graceful demeanor to others, but to really get under their skin and see their true, uncensored selves requires time.

In short - MOON-SATURN people are able to be friendly with almost all manner of strangers, but take a while to form true friendships and/or relationships. Once they do, however, they will last indefinitely. SATURN is associated with longevity and endurance. They will also display a certain measure of emotional maturity, especially evident in childhood.

posted November 18, 2014 03:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Virgo28:
Can you share your insecurities, childhood, fears, patterns with people.

Do you ever open up in relationships?

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I have a Virgo Moon, Virgo28

I've had my Progressed Moon Scorpio tacking Saturn's transit through Scorpio. I've also had my Scorpio Saturn Return #2 at 17 degrees.

I love to listen to others and hear about their experiences. Strangers feel comfortable sharing with me. I've felt very honored... My Saturn-rx Scorpio in 11th.

I think that I've started noticing how I can tend to 'deflect' conversation away, rather than share (like a larger small group). But if the "people" are a loving group who want to share intimately, then I would like to learn to do that. Just have a problem getting it out of my mouth without making a lot of u-turns before it passes my lips... (or heh, the keyboard too). I like telling stories about my past, the kinds that inspire people. But when it's come to me deep-sharing about "me" I've had the hardest time. I guess it's because I truly 'didn't' trust whether I was accepted. However, I do trust my self the best I've ever had, when I was plagued with such doubts before. Like a type of waking-up. I know for ME that I can be trusted inside me. (Something I've had lessons of affirmation on this past few weeks, and months)... (It's been a long feeling-evoking Scorpio transit.)

I'm not in any support groups, and haven't been for almost a few decades. I'd love to get over feeling like 'a deer caught in the headlights' when it comes to really trusting and sharing. There would have to be a lot of trust building for me to do that, but all these transits and eclipses through Scorpio has softened the harder walls right now. I think I could eventually reach comfort sharing when I knew that these people were there to support and heal.

With the stellium of planets and asteroids that has been moving through Scorpio and beginning to enter Sagittarius, and after the eclipses we've been experiencing for the past few years, this is something I would REALLY like to begin to do.

I feel so held back inside... but this is something I am "willing" to start to do more of. I need to learn how to trust others, as much as I have been the one others trust.

posted November 18, 2014 04:03 AM            

We have trust issues. And we are both also Plutonic. It takes GREAT effort from both sides not to undermine the other or start some mental game that will end in misery. We test eachother all the time. Peaks and valleys and down the abyss.

I am more open than he is however. He can talk in circles and will deflect and project. I am more straight to the point.

Sometimes he doesn't talk at all because it's all just so tightly pieced together inside of him.

To others, people that are just acquaintances, he will come across as very friendly and open, but it's just a facade.
He can charm your pants off but if you want to get closer you need to really have earned it.

posted November 18, 2014 10:15 AM            

I'm trying to understand this person as deeply as possible.

How can I help???

We share Moon/Mars/Pluto/Sat conjunct Juno/Ascendant(me) so her Saturn treats me like her moon.

Everytime; she becomes emotional, It rubs me the wrong way. I see it as being hypocrite for some reason and I become very serious, cold, and withdrawn.

I try to get a hold of this behavior so to avoid the reaction. Being a Libra Ascendant, I can be over polite to the point to seem fake.

posted November 18, 2014 05:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Virgo28:
@Mirage29

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Thank you, Virgo28!

posted November 25, 2014 09:46 PM            

Growing up I've basically had very difficult relationships with all women in my life (I also have my moon opposite pluto, so it might be part due to that) I just don't feel comfortable with women.