posted December 10, 2014 12:42 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
*runs away screaming*

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posted December 10, 2014 01:36 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Clear-cut, perfect analysis/description as always.

Guess what? You can teach me a thing or two yourself because I have Moon-Venus square!

I am much more comfortable with masculine energy, especially also having my Mars in the 1st. I converse better with men, I am more myself around them, and find my interactions to be more natural. While there can be an element of trying too hard when it comes to women, I have to put a conscious effort to relate and understand them sometimes.

I think the Moon-Mars advice I can give you (especially since it's a tension between cardinal energies) is to, at all costs, not react when you feel the strongest impulse to do so. It is imperative that you give into your Moon, feel and intuit your emotions and the situation that ignited an emotional response in you before you react. Let it simmer. Walk away from the situation and respond later. Feed your Moon, neglect your Mars. The trine feels like a very lively, assertive, and animated emotional expression. It gives me a strength that is a apparent but not threatening.

Any advice for Moon-Venus square?

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You have Mars in 1st? Did I mention that I have Venus in 7th? Wow

Okay, so what you are saying is that I should choose to be vulnerable(Moon) in moments of clear tension(Mars)? Open up(Moon)when every ounce of me wants to shut down(Mars)?All in all, respond to Moon in Cancer, instead of Mars in Libra?

And to think that all this time i was responding to Mars; getting very argumentative(Libra) and wanting to "right" a wrong etc . Thanks!!!

Now Moon-Venus square is simple. Are you ready? Because this is long?

Its actually quite similar in that you'll also have to welcome your Moon with open arms.But not in the way you expect.

This means that you will have to accept certain vulnerable traits about your Moon; depending on the sign. And be willing to share them.

If Moon is in Aries; turn your aggression to admitting that you don't always know what you are doing.

If Moon in Taurus; turn your stubbornness into admitting that you are afraid of losing everything you cherish.

If Moon in Gemini;turn your gossip tendencies to admitting that you really fear getting deep on subjects. That it exposes just how little you really "know". etc.

I lived with someone who had Moon-Venus opposite and I think what he once said echoed a lot of what I have experienced with people who have this aspect.

He said that "I am always afraid that i(Moon) will fall out(opposite)of people's favour(Venus). That people will never(opposite)like(Venus)me for me(Moon)."

"So I try harder,I concede always and I do my best to be someone that they would like to be with.An ideal."

So Venus is about appearances and what people receive you as being whilst the Moon is really who you are.

So Venus-Moon opposite usually wants to win the "popularity" contest and is emotionally dependent on them.

The opposition can swing between them trying very hard to make a good impression(dress, looks, mannerism) on the one hand. Or they become completely apathetic and opposed to superficial appearances with a "I am more than what others see" stance on the other.

The common thread is that they are never indifferent to what people have to say about them(Venus). And want to get on with all people.In-fact they really need to be(Moon).

This could be tied into the psychological relationship with the Mother(Moon). Perhaps she was the type of woman who was eager to please? Not wanting to fall out of favour with anyone? Maybe even a doormat?

So thee people learned early that in order to be emotionally satisfied(Moon)they have to live up to others' expectations(Venus).
Try very hard to win people's favour.And that that was the only way to be secure(Moon).

posted December 10, 2014 11:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
Imo, planets in combust can't function to their full capacity because they are in the shadow of the Sun. The effects of the planet won't be felt because the planet is somewhat "burned" in the flames of the Sun. My brother has Sun conjunct Venus (combust) and so far, he doesn't seem to have any of those "blessings" you mentioned. Some are lucky enough, though, to have a wider orb for the conjunction.

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It is said that when a planet is combust, it is "overheated" by the rays of the suns. However, Venus is a hot planet itself; it's the hottest planets in the solar system. So technically, I don't believe that a hot planet like Venus can be combust by the Sun. And many astrologers don't believe in combustion effects.

posted December 11, 2014 03:13 AM            

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Originally posted by midnightvenus:

Yeah, and it's in the 10th house. The problem is that I'm in a very "still" moment of my life, so all of the energy keeps bottled up and everything just seems annoying and I feel like slapping someone.

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Omg I know exactly how you feel... I'm a sun-mars person too, in virgo. If I don't feel productive I literally feel like slapping someone too!!!

posted December 11, 2014 03:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

And maybe that I can get away with anything if I say things with a smile?

I'll take it. All of it and learn to control it.

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posted December 11, 2014 03:25 AM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Lol, it's even worse because it's a Gem-Pisces square. And boy would I be swimming in a pool of cash if I got a buck for every time people accused this combination with these particular signs of being cheaters. Pisces alone gets a good deal of shade.

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Wow, okay wait a sec, I just have to comment on this... pisces-gem square on moon-venus does NOT make someone a cheater alone.
I think there has to be some other factors going on, as for an example, mars-venus connections, venus-jupiter connections, a lot of 5th house placements (on venus, mars or moon)
And if there is strong pluto/saturn overall in the chart to venus or moon I don't think the person would be that interested in having loads of new partners.... just sayin!

posted December 11, 2014 08:04 AM            

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Originally posted by mollywu:
Not lucky if the Venus is conbust. I have this aspect, I have three other gfs who has this aspect who were just born a few days away from me. My venus is conjunct Sun under 1 degree, so it is affected more deeply. I just search about Sun conjuct Venus but Venus conbust. It said the people with this aspect are not lucky in love life, marriage and relationship. It is true for me and my gfs. The love life isn't smooth at all.....I don't like this conjuct combust aspect.

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So you guys are a little passionate? What's wrong with that?

posted December 11, 2014 08:06 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Sounds nice but I don't know if I'd like to have Capricorn Venus.

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posted December 11, 2014 08:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
You have Mars in 1st? Did I mention that I have Venus in 7th? Wow

Okay, so what you are saying is that I should choose to be vulnerable(Moon) in moments of clear tension(Mars)? Open up(Moon)when every ounce of me wants to shut down(Mars)?All in all, respond to Moon in Cancer, instead of Mars in Libra?

And to think that all this time i was responding to Mars; getting very argumentative(Libra) and wanting to "right" a wrong etc . Thanks!!!

Now Moon-Venus square is simple. Are you ready? Because this is long?

Its actually quite similar in that you'll also have to welcome your Moon with open arms.But not in the way you expect.

This means that you will have to accept certain vulnerable traits about your Moon; depending on the sign. And be willing to share them.

If Moon is in Aries; turn your aggression to admitting that you don't always know what you are doing.

If Moon in Taurus; turn your stubbornness into admitting that you are afraid of losing everything you cherish.

If Moon in Gemini;turn your gossip tendencies to admitting that you really fear getting deep on subjects. That it exposes just how little you really "know". etc.

I lived with someone who had Moon-Venus opposite and I think what he once said echoed a lot of what I have experienced with people who have this aspect.

He said that "I am always afraid that i(Moon) will fall out(opposite)of people's favour(Venus). That people will never(opposite)like(Venus)me for me(Moon)."

"So I try harder,I concede always and I do my best to be someone that they would like to be with.An ideal."

So Venus is about appearances and what people receive you as being whilst the Moon is really who you are.

So Venus-Moon opposite usually wants to win the "popularity" contest and is emotionally dependent on them.

The opposition can swing between them trying very hard to make a good impression(dress, looks, mannerism) on the one hand. Or they become completely apathetic and opposed to superficial appearances with a "I am more than what others see" stance on the other.

The common thread is that they are never indifferent to what people have to say about them(Venus). And want to get on with all people.In-fact they really need to be(Moon).

This could be tied into the psychological relationship with the Mother(Moon). Perhaps she was the type of woman who was eager to please? Not wanting to fall out of favour with anyone? Maybe even a doormat?

So thee people learned early that in order to be emotionally satisfied(Moon)they have to live up to others' expectations(Venus).
Try very hard to win people's favour.And that that was the only way to be secure(Moon).

The opposition effect intensifies this feeling of not being good enough(Venus).Not as they are(Moon)anyways.

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posted December 11, 2014 08:45 AM            

What about aries moon quintile venus in cancer?

posted December 11, 2014 09:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I think the heady mix of Venus conjunct Sun/Mars conjunct Asc would have people not knowing whether to kill you or kiss you.

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posted December 11, 2014 09:31 AM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
[b]Sounds nice but I don't know if I'd like to have Capricorn Venus.

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I don't doubt that. The thing is I'd rather keep the Venus I have and I don't need more prominent Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.

posted December 11, 2014 10:10 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I don't doubt that. The thing is I'd rather keep the Venus I have and I don't need more prominent Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.

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It's funny you said that.

posted December 11, 2014 11:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
You have Mars in 1st? Did I mention that I have Venus in 7th? Wow

Okay, so what you are saying is that I should choose to be vulnerable(Moon) in moments of clear tension(Mars)? Open up(Moon)when every ounce of me wants to shut down(Mars)?All in all, respond to Moon in Cancer, instead of Mars in Libra?

And to think that all this time i was responding to Mars; getting very argumentative(Libra) and wanting to "right" a wrong etc . Thanks!!!

Now Moon-Venus square is simple. Are you ready? Because this is long?

Its actually quite similar in that you'll also have to welcome your Moon with open arms.But not in the way you expect.

This means that you will have to accept certain vulnerable traits about your Moon; depending on the sign. And be willing to share them.

If Moon is in Aries; turn your aggression to admitting that you don't always know what you are doing.

If Moon in Taurus; turn your stubbornness into admitting that you are afraid of losing everything you cherish.

If Moon in Gemini;turn your gossip tendencies to admitting that you really fear getting deep on subjects. That it exposes just how little you really "know". etc.

I lived with someone who had Moon-Venus opposite and I think what he once said echoed a lot of what I have experienced with people who have this aspect.

He said that "I am always afraid that i(Moon) will fall out(opposite)of people's favour(Venus). That people will never(opposite)like(Venus)me for me(Moon)."

"So I try harder,I concede always and I do my best to be someone that they would like to be with.An ideal."

So Venus is about appearances and what people receive you as being whilst the Moon is really who you are.

So Venus-Moon opposite usually wants to win the "popularity" contest and is emotionally dependent on them.

The opposition can swing between them trying very hard to make a good impression(dress, looks, mannerism) on the one hand. Or they become completely apathetic and opposed to superficial appearances with a "I am more than what others see" stance on the other.

The common thread is that they are never indifferent to what people have to say about them(Venus). And want to get on with all people.In-fact they really need to be(Moon).

This could be tied into the psychological relationship with the Mother(Moon). Perhaps she was the type of woman who was eager to please? Not wanting to fall out of favour with anyone? Maybe even a doormat?

So thee people learned early that in order to be emotionally satisfied(Moon)they have to live up to others' expectations(Venus).
Try very hard to win people's favour.And that that was the only way to be secure(Moon).

The opposition effect intensifies this feeling of not being good enough(Venus).Not as they are(Moon)anyways.

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Sigh... I wrote a whole response but my kitten did something and ruined it. Anyway...

It's amazing how in tune with Venusian energy you are having the Moon trine and Venus in the 7th while I'm Martian having Moon trine and Mars in the 1st! Looks like we can learn from each other here! Hahaha!

Well, yes. I definitely think you should let your Cancer Moon feel out and reflect on its before you let Mars jump in all ready to tackle, not fully knowing or understanding what Moon needs and wants or what the situation is really about. I feel Mars just has this tendency to interrupt and bombard the emotive process that Moon needs to go through in any trying situation. So in the square it almost comes out uninhibited Mars defending the Moon from something it's not even sure it fully took in or understood. So the lash out happens very quickly. I think it might do with not having your emotions taken seriously as a child or feeling that your emotional expression is limited or undervalued. That you needed to fight or throw a fit in order for you to be heard or taken seriously. Does that resonate at all?

I looooved your Moon-Venus analysis (ugh WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BE A CAP MERCURY!!!!!)... I relate to what you said quite a bit, especially what you said about Gemini Moon. I think it's even more difficult because I have all these Pisces Planets and Pluto Squares and Saturn conjunctions all over, that it makes it hard for me to let my Moon dance and be light. To be who I feel on the inside.

I think the issue with the square is that it hybridizes the problem instead of creating a dynamic of shifting and tapdancing between polar opposites as seems to be the case with the opposition. There's just a general lack of understanding that is rooted in a fundamental difference that is hard to reconcile. My Pisces Venus feels my Gem Moon just doesn't fit in with the mix, my Moon feels my Pisces Venus is too watery and emotional, that it needs to chill and have fun and leave all the transcendental sh*t behind. And that clearly, part of the tension existing in the 5th and the other in the 1st, manifests in my life. There's also an article I read that was very helpful and informative in discussing Moon-Venus square... It something along the lines of "men only wanting to have sex with the native while totally ignoring her feelings". I've experienced this soooooo many times and it has to do with the strong need for acceptance that you were talking about. I will try to apply your advice and just let my Moon speak up and be.

You are so lovely to speak to. I think I have such an admiration for you, your Mercury in my 12th and the mutual receptivity between my 1st (where my stellium is) and 12th (ruler of 1st in the 12, ruler of 12th in the 1st) And... Not to mention how Saturnine I am.

posted December 11, 2014 01:37 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Sigh... I wrote a whole response but my kitten did something and ruined it. Anyway...

It's amazing how in tune with Venusian energy you are having the Moon trine and Venus in the 7th while I'm Martian having Moon trine and Mars in the 1st! Looks like we can learn from each other here! Hahaha!

Well, yes. I definitely think you should let your Cancer Moon feel out and reflect on its before you let Mars jump in all ready to tackle, not fully knowing or understanding what Moon needs and wants or what the situation is really about. I feel Mars just has this tendency to interrupt and bombard the emotive process that Moon needs to go through in any trying situation. So in the square it almost comes out uninhibited Mars defending the Moon from something it's not even sure it fully took in or understood. So the lash out happens very quickly. I think it might do with not having your emotions taken seriously as a child or feeling that your emotional expression is limited or undervalued. That you needed to fight or throw a fit in order for you to be heard or taken seriously. Does that resonate at all?

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Yes. It actually does. Very much so.

I have this thing about being ignored. It infuriates me to no end.But my expression of that anger is more passive. I just become sullen and quiet. Implode!!!

One thing that strongly attracted me to the Scorpio Moon guy is his ability to just be "present" when listening to me. Man he LISTENS. Wow!!!

Yes. I think I'll let my Moon take over more. I can do that

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
I looooved your Moon-Venus analysis (ugh WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BE A CAP MERCURY!!!!!)... I relate to what you said quite a bit, especially what you said about Gemini Moon. I think it's even more difficult because I have all these Pisces Planets and Pluto Squares and Saturn conjunctions all over, that it makes it hard for me to let my Moon dance and be light. To be who I feel on the inside.

I think the issue with the square is that it hybridizes the problem instead of creating a dynamic of shifting and tapdancing between polar opposites as seems to be the case with the opposition. There's just a general lack of understanding that is rooted in a fundamental difference that is hard to reconcile. My Pisces Venus feels my Gem Moon just doesn't fit in with the mix, my Moon feels my Pisces Venus is too watery and emotional, that it needs to chill and have fun and leave all the transcendental sh*t behind. And that clearly, part of the tension existing in the 5th and the other in the 1st, manifests in my life. There's also an article I read that was very helpful and informative in discussing Moon-Venus square... It something along the lines of "men only wanting to have sex with the native while totally ignoring her feelings". I've experienced this soooooo many times and it has to do with the strong need for acceptance that you were talking about. I will try to apply your advice and just let my Moon speak up and be.

You are so lovely to speak to. I think I have such an admiration for you, your Mercury in my 12th and the mutual receptivity between my 1st (where my stellium is) and 12th (ruler of 1st in the 12, ruler of 12th in the 1st) And... Not to mention how Saturnine I am.

I hope my advice helps. I'll certain run to you for Venus issues. You can do the same for your Mars.

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posted December 11, 2014 01:41 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Also, I honestly would also wholeheartedly recommend you as a mod in Personal Readings, for charts and all.

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Oh stop it I like it *clutches pearls.

I was asked to write a Mars in houses sexuality for the Linda-land library. I am still busy with it as I don't want it to be far removed from actual,real-life things that people can relate to.