posted January 07, 2015 03:24 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
My Draconic chart strongly reflects the Node placements in my natal chart which I find very interesting!

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How so?

posted January 07, 2015 03:27 PM            

I have a Natal Capricorn Moon and a Capricorn Asc in Draconic chart.

posted January 07, 2015 03:39 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I am a Sag Sun/Venus/Mercury/Saturn, Gem Moon in Draconic chart and NN/SN are in 3H (Gemini) and 9H (Sag) in natal house.

I have a Natal Capricorn Moon and a Capricorn Asc in Draconic chart.

So it fits for me!

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posted January 10, 2015 04:11 AM            

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Originally posted by wheresthemoon:
Thank you😊 so how do you feel the effects of your draconic planets in your natal chart?

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posted January 10, 2015 12:13 PM            

For example, I have Venus widely trine Jupiter in natal. With a 10 degree orb, most people here wouldn't even call it a trine. I could just say my natal Sag Venus feels "Jupiter-y," but I had a hunch it went beyond that. So, for me, seeing my draco Venus exactly conjunct my natal Jupiter was satisfying-- like finding a missing link.

Ditto for draco Mercury conjunct natal Mars. I had thought there was a link, and not merely that my Mercury is in Aquarius and Mars is in the 11th house.

Draco Neptune conjunct natal Chiron puts a twist on issues that I've been attributing mostly to my Pisces moon.

Draco Saturn on my natal Venus-Neptune also makes sense to me.

posted January 11, 2015 12:20 AM            

The more they repeat and emphasize certain words,the clearer the message

In a way,I think that that is the link between the draconic(who we were)and natal(who we are trying to be) and the progressed(how far along we are).

I think one should take note of the energies repeated from the the draconic to the natal. Specifically when natal Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus /Mars is repeated on the same personal Draconic planets.

I have Sun in Libra-Draconic. Mars in Libra natal.I also have Venus conjunct Saturn in Libra(Vedic).

Clearly the Libra energy is important on a soul level. There is a yearning to merge ,come together,marry,fuse together,join two opposing sides etc. from the souls perspective.

That is the message that could be coming through from the overlay of the Draconic and Natal.

Those who don't have a difference between their Draconic and natal could feel a compelling need to just "be themselves". Its almost like they expect the world to just accept them 'as is' etc.

Because Aries is usually on the North node for these people, the emphasis in living in 'openness' and just "being who they are" becomes the signature of the repeated positions. There is nowhere and nothing to "change".

posted January 11, 2015 03:53 AM            

Not really sure what to make of that, but I've also noticed that my son and I have a lot of conjunctions between our natal and draconic charts.
His NN is also in a fire sign, but a little further away from 0 degrees, but most of his aspects are also still intact.

Interesting.

posted January 11, 2015 05:15 AM            

Mine is exactly the same expect it shifts my ASC about 30 degrees.

posted January 11, 2015 10:32 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
Do people's Draconic charts change very much?

Mine is exactly the same expect it shifts my ASC about 30 degrees.

ETA: Sorry, I just saw Violets post. As I wrote mine is the same too.

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LL, it depends on where your NN is in your natal. If your NN is close to 0 degrees Aries, it won't change much. Or in a fire sign, as draconic changes everyone's NN to 0 Aries and goes from there. (I hope that makes sense, I'm just starting to learn more about it myself.)

posted January 12, 2015 02:55 AM            

''I like to think of the natal Draconic chart as a layer of “soul fabric” that lies underneath the outward personality. You can’t see it unless you look deep. Like the silk lining of a jacket, we never think about it being there and it never fully shows, yet it is a substance that makes the wearing of the coat more comfortable—a better fit—and when the breeze flips up an edge and we get a glimpse of that contrasting color and silky texture, we go “ahhh”.''
The Draconic zodiac is a wonderful tool for illuminating the kinds of experiences you will encounter on your life path. A planet’s Draconic position represents that planet’s role in expressing your soul’s chosen purpose. Mixing the two zodiacs and noting their interaction best shows how that purpose is likely to manifest in this lifetime. In other words, the kind of events and people you draw into your life to learn your soul’s lessons can be found by comparing your Draconic planetary positions to the Tropical planetary positions in your natal chart.

To illustrate, if your Draconic Saturn is conjunct your Tropical Moon, it would suggest that your spiritual need to experience the matters of Saturn in your life (structure, responsibility, limitation, grief, etc.) would manifest through the matters of the Moon (family, the mother, women in general, or feelings). And conversely, if your Draconic Moon is conjunct your Tropical Saturn, it indicates that matters of the Moon are influenced by Saturn in your life, implying that they may be blocked, limited in some way, or even missing altogether. In both examples, whatever manifests is the life condition your soul has chosen as the best way for you to learn your spiritual lessons.

Draconic planets also work another way. If you are not consciously striving to align your life with your soul’s purpose, choosing to ignore it instead, then the Draconic positions often represent your "shadow," which is your unconscious self which you experience through your interactions with others. For instance, having Draconic Mars conjunct your Ascendant suggests that spiritually you have chosen to learn the lesson of assertiveness. However, if you fail to express Mars in a consciously assertive way, you will very likely experience everyone else’s Mars powerfully directed at you. You might even find that Tropical Mars rises in the charts of most of your significant others. Although that may make life seem a little unfair, it’s actually a pretty ingenious process. Sooner or later you will be forced to "own" your own Mars rising (Draconic) to keep everyone you meet from running roughshod over you. It’ll be just a matter of time before you finally stand up for yourself, even if it takes a lifetime or two.

The usual method of examining Draconic positions is to place them outside your natal Tropical chart. The aspects between the two zodiacs seems to take precedence over the signs in which the Draconic planets are found. However, the sign of your Draconic Sun will be very noticeable in your personality. In fact, that sign may be the one people most often guess to be your Sun sign. Angularity is also important in evaluating Draconic positions, for Draconic planets falling near the Ascendant, Midheaven, Descendant, or I.C. will be high focus in your life. In addition, Tropical planets found near your Draconic angles are also highlighted.

posted January 12, 2015 09:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
LL, it depends on where your NN is in your natal. If your NN is close to 0 degrees Aries, it won't change much. Or in a fire sign, as draconic changes everyone's NN to 0 Aries and goes from there. (I hope that makes sense, I'm just starting to learn more about it myself.)

Eta: Nevermind, everyone's chart looks the same to me so far, as far as aspects go. So I suppose it just changes the signs?

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Yes. I'm guess it's just the signs and since mine are so close (only changed from Scorp rising to Sag rising then there are no conjunctions or major aspects if I compare the two charts.