posted March 04, 2015 08:50 AM            

But I also think that there could be another placement or aspect that "modifies" the "unlike-able" qualities of the placement.

A Moon in flirty Gemini may not be fully appreciated by the often intense Scorpio placements.

But if that Moon in Gem individual has Venus/Pluto conjunct, then this can "offset" a lot of the "fickle" qualities that the Scorpio dislikes.

I know Cap placements that find Libra "cheesy" and too "smooth" for them.They often think that the "kindness" of the Libra is self-serving and insincere.

Many Scorpio's also agree and are suspicious of the etiquette shown by the placements etc.

I see that you have Sun/Asc in both signs Cap/Scorp respectively. An both are quite a major part of your personality as being part of big 3.

But what exactly is it that makes the Libra energy "icky" for you? Is it their smile? The way they dance around making a decision? Their approach?

Though I have Mars in Libra,I often find other Libra positions to be quite pretentious and smarmy sometimes.

posted March 04, 2015 03:47 PM            

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Originally posted by babybull82:
I'm not sure how long ago it was but there was a thread about planets falling into 12th houses in synastry and it morphed into talking about certain signs falling into your 12th and not feeling comfortable with them. Like for me, I'm not really fond of Leos at all even despite having a leo ascendant (@ 29 degrees) I just don't care for them. Actually I don't want anybody's planets in my 12th house. Just doesn't feel right to me.

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I'm not sure if we are thinking about the same thread but I created a thread like that a while back and the responses are mixed. If your metal is very 12th house or neptunian then 12th house Synastry isn't bad.

To OP: you are a capricorn, with sag moon, and other wise watery placements.

Lubra influenced people can be very strange when it comes to maintaining their "balance." And the balance is completely subjective, which is not the social standard a cap would prefer.

I have cap stellium and I have troubles maintaining anything with a libra. They are so charming tho...

posted March 04, 2015 07:45 PM            

I also think a factor is Libra on the 12H cusp. Whether it is a factor or not would probably become clear if we knew what exactly you don't like about Libras.

posted March 04, 2015 08:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Yeah. My guess is that you would dislike all air signs (because of the lack of air in your chart) if it weren't for your Aquarius IC. It's much, much stronger than a familiar feeling. Your IC represents what you really are, deep, deep inside. Other people may easily see your Sun, Moon or ASC in you, but once they get to know you [b]really well, they will notice the IC energy. Or they might not even notice it because it's so deep and intimate. From my experience, the IC energy is how the perfect mix of all your placements gets combined and expresses itself in your mind.

For instance, I do have Libran, Virgo (my ASC) and Aquarian characteristics (without being a typical Libra/Virgo/Aqua) with a strong Pisces emphasis, but they will all get mixed up and my Sag IC is what will define my most intimate personality. Libra and Pisces will make up for the dreamy, philosophical side of Sag. Aqua will be the carefree side, etc. That's why a ASC/Moon/Sun - IC conjunction is so nice in synastry.

Also, your South Node in Libra (along with Lucifer) might make you feel 'pulled down' by the Libran energy. It might stop you from growing and evolving spiritually, in a way.

Let me know if this resonates. [/B]

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posted March 04, 2015 08:17 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Frankie,
Based off of your particular combination of planets I think I can see why you don't like Libras. IMO, you are probably a down to earth and authentic person and you get put off by libra's superficial and flaky nature. Libras are all nice and fun on the surface but they can be the biggest social snobs and become slaves to popularity. They'll do anything to be seen as cool or hip. Of course this isn't true of all libras, but there is a definite trend there. I'm the same way.... As an Aquarius i'll initially feel chemistry with libras but get put off by the things I mentioned above.

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posted March 04, 2015 08:20 PM            

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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
I think that having certain placements in a sign sort of predisposes one to not like/fully appreciate the energy of signs in "disharmonious" energy to them.

But I also think that there could be another placement or aspect that "modifies" the "unlike-able" qualities of the placement.

A Moon in flirty Gemini may not be fully appreciated by the often intense Scorpio placements.

But if that Moon in Gem individual has Venus/Pluto conjunct, then this can "offset" a lot of the "fickle" qualities that the Scorpio dislikes.

I know Cap placements that find Libra "cheesy" and too "smooth" for them.They often think that the "kindness" of the Libra is self-serving and insincere.

Many Scorpio's also agree and are suspicious of the etiquette shown by the placements etc.

I see that you have Sun/Asc in both signs Cap/Scorp respectively. An both are quite a major part of your personality as being part of big 3.

But what exactly is it that makes the Libra energy "icky" for you? Is it their smile? The way they dance around making a decision? Their approach?

Though I have Mars in Libra,I often find other Libra positions to be quite pretentious and smarmy sometimes.

There is always a little "something for the ladies" about the guys that I find quite annoying. Like they won the "crooner of the year" award in some cringe-worthy contest

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posted March 04, 2015 09:05 PM            

I've had serious relationships with three. They can appear that way on the surface but if you get close to one they are very direct and outspoken. The cardinal quality really comes out.
They are loyal as well.

I don't particularly like the contrast in personality home vs socializing but you have to understand why they do it. What motivates them and you'll understand.

But I can also understand how others would gather that about them.
I'm not a person that likes small talk and.... libraness that goes into that sort of socializing. However, there are two ways that I can think of someone with Scorpio kind of qualities to view and approach this Libra behavior.
Look away in disgust, or try to move in close, "crack them" and try to see what's really there. (I do the latter, if my Pluto/asc or 12th stellium matter in that)

posted March 04, 2015 09:19 PM            

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Originally posted by frankie2912:
Smarmy, pretentious, and insincere are all good words for how I view most Libras. It's like they're trying to please everyone while at the same time being a know-it-all, i'm-so-cool-nothing-bothers-me sort of thing. I just find it incredibly fake.

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I felt this way for a while, about a former friend that I had trusted. I felt like I'd fallen for pretty words, only to have them turn on me when I needed friendship the most. I don't think we'd ever argued before, and I was heartbroken. Trust gone, right there. I suppose it was due, but the timing was bad.

posted March 04, 2015 11:01 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze :
It's all perception.

I've had serious relationships with three. They can appear that way on the surface but if you get close to one they are very direct and outspoken. The cardinal quality really comes out.
They are loyal as well.

I don't particularly like the contrast in personality home vs socializing but you have to understand why they do it. What motivates them and you'll understand.

But I can also understand how others would gather that about them.
I'm not a person that likes small talk and.... libraness that goes into that sort of socializing. However, there are two ways that I can think of someone with Scorpio kind of qualities to view and approach this Libra behavior.
Look away in disgust, or try to move in close, "crack them" and try to see what's really there. (I do the latter, if my Pluto/asc or 12th stellium matter in that)

I think they do it in part to attempt to create peace not just for them with other people, but to have others be kind to each other. It is the native sign of relationships, 7th house.... others. They want everyone to get along and to have balance. They don't want anyone to fight, thus, they can come off fickle and fake.
It's honestly not for such selfish reasons but the opposite. If you expect them to blindly be empathetic that won't happen. They will strive for peace.

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This.

Also, on a more personal level, if some of us Libras sometimes act like we know it all (and by that I mean someone keeping quiet in a way that could seem somehow 'despising'), we're actually (in most cases, I think) seeking balance in our own minds ; trying to keep calm, because we love peace ; trying to manage everything happening around us and avoid conflicts. Another thing that makes us seem very superficial is lack of communication (again, this doesn't apply to all Libras), fearing that it could offend someone. I think these are the 'extreme cases' that occur when we try too hard to maintain balance around us. If, say, someone asks us a simple question concerning our personal tastes, and there's another person in the room whom we know will have a different opinion than the first person and thus possibly create a conflict, we will ask ourselves 'How do I say the answer in a proper way without offending either of them ?' and 'How could I put it diplomatically and which words could I alter for it to suit both of them, while still expressing my opinion ?'. And, for some water influenced, shy and a bit secretive Libras, although we absolutely love talking about ourselves, we will choose peace over our own opinion. 'Oh, well. Nevermind. I didn't get to say what I liked but at least I avoided a fight.'

Note the diplomatic talk I cracked my head to use up there, in the first sentences -- 'if some of us', 'sometimes act', 'could seem somehow', 'I think'...

posted March 04, 2015 11:10 PM            

I guess I don't dislike them all. I just remembered a really good friend of mine is a Libra ..but she also shares Venus in Scorpio with me. We get along SO well, but then again she is in her early 50s and i'm 28, so she has the maturity going for her and I just love her wisdom.

Actually I know another older Libra woman with whom I have some of the most fascinating conversations. Maybe it just takes Libra a while to grow into themselves.

posted March 06, 2015 06:19 PM            

These libras color my perception of course. I've known only one that I stuck with for a long time. I kindly a learn to read them because part of my 5th house is libra but they get moody and angry at people all the time. They show it to people closest to them and it sucks if you are among those ppl.

The good part is once they find their partner they tend to stick with one.

posted March 07, 2015 12:04 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
How can you dislike my sweet Libra Moon? ;(

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i knoowww riitee??? what's not to love???