posted March 28, 2015 09:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think there is a GREAT difference between how Air Moons view loyalty. Hence, when the subject arises, they will be talking about one thing and a Cancer or Scorpio Moon will be talking about another.
The topic may be loyalty, per se, but the points of view are very different about WHAT it constitutes from the point of view of an Air Moon and the above mentioned Moons. Hope that helps a bit!

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That didn't answer the question, Ami. What does loyalty have to do at all with an air moon being unable to accept their own nature? How do you know they aren't accepting their own nature? I think a lot of what you're saying boils down to misunderstanding. You don't understand how an air moon works. You're on the outside looking in not the other way around.

posted March 28, 2015 09:45 PM            

*Earth dominant is known for this in the charts

**Assuming the third, fourth, or fifth version of your natal chart you posted a month ago was truthful.

posted March 28, 2015 09:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Let me try to give an example. If a friend is being attacked and a person has to ASK what happened, rather than jump in and help, that person is not a friend, to me. I have had situations in which Libra Moons will, even, side with the person attacking me. Either of these situations ends the friendship for me. To me, loyalty trumps all.

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Libra moons would generally want both points of view and fairness. I appreciate that most Libra moons act as mediators rather than just jump in and attack someone who may be in the "right".

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Heck ya I am! Do you think a Cancer Moon could ever put up with a Gemini Moon let alone marry one? Jk, honey you know I love that crazy ass Gemini Moon.

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Lol!

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
No Moon is better than other. The Moon travels fast through each sign and gathers the best of each, and we all know all signs are equally valuable. Libra Moon is a Venusian Moon (check your Venus for significant insight on your Libra Moon) - outstanding qualities: a social, esthetic, refined, pleasure oriented (in this case mostly esthetic pleasures), fair, balanced, mediator, arts (and sometimes exceptional taste), peace, law, negotiations and leadership Moon. Makes one potentially very popular. All Venus in Libra features are emphasized through this Moon, on the level of needs/emotions. Also, a hyper Cardinal Moon - the Moon itself being cardinal (ruling Cancer), but with a social, venusian twist. Libra and Cancer Moon are compatible through their cardinal features, if they learn to cooperate, rather than boss each other.

In terms of synastry, obviously a Libra Moon can be gold for someone's chart, if their Sun/Moon call for it.

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This is along the lines of what I was thinking. I personally love the energy of libra moons. I also have venus in libra trine moon in gemini. A libra moon is likely to also trine my moon. <3 Loyalty has never been an issue with any Libra moon I have known. I assume this is due to synastry and their moons in my 4th house.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Libra Moon does not see loyalty in the same way as does Cancer Moon.

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Going back to my above statement. The moon is ruler of Cancer so this is supposed to be a more natural placement but yet I have had nothing but loyalty issues from cancer moons. Most early degree cancer moons end up in my 12th house. Later degree ones that trine jupiter in my chart and are in my 1st house I didn't/dont have issues with. I think synastry has a lot to do with people's opinions of signs.

posted March 28, 2015 10:05 PM            

she was... reticent!

we were suppose to have somethin serious (we're long distance) one day, i noticed she started texting different, like her patterns. i picked up on it, read into it. digged at her to tell me what's going on, found out she slept with someone. i threw a fit.

she said "why u mad, we're not together" i asked "who me n u? or u n "him"? she said "both" i was like in my head "really girl! aight then! koo!"

i asked her if she was being fqin serious n she said " and u stopped talking to me"
i told her "the reason we don't communicate often is because sometimes u read my messages and don't reply, and i'm awaiting ur reply, sometime up to 2 days, then i text u again, no reply, then 1 day after, i text u again n then u decide to reply"

her answer? was "sorry"

we were suppose to be married (she wanted it, she brought it up, i wanted to too but was afraid of bringing it up, so when she did, i was hopping around like a rabbit LOL) in a couple months. hence why i was mad. but she wasn't thinking of that. i don't think she very into me cuz she doesn't even remember my name, or probably anything about me for that matter, not sure tho.

anyways, she was very quiet, don't text much, don't talk much either.

posted March 28, 2015 10:07 PM            

I am Cancer Moon at 6 degrees and conj the MC. I can't remember the Libra Moon degrees, my Friend.

I do realize that aspects to the Moon are very important and for that I thank all the people who participated in this thread!

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posted March 28, 2015 10:09 PM            

she was... reticent!

we were suppose to have somethin serious (we're long distance) one day, i noticed she started texting different, like her patterns. i picked up on it, read into it. digged at her to tell me what's going on, found out she slept with someone. i threw a fit.

she said "why u mad, we're not together"
i asked her if she was being fqin serious n she said " and u stopped talking to me"
i told her "the reason we don't communicate often is because sometimes u read my messages and don't reply, and i'm awaiting ur reply, sometime up to 2 days, then i text u again, no reply, then 1 day after, i text u again n then u decide to reply"

her answer? was "sorry"

This is EXACTLY what I experienced. This kind of insouciance!

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posted March 28, 2015 10:13 PM            

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Originally posted by deptic:

she said "why u mad, we're not together"
i asked her if she was being fqin serious n she said " and u stopped talking to me"
i told her "the reason we don't communicate often is because sometimes u read my messages and don't reply, and i'm awaiting ur reply, sometime up to 2 days, then i text u again, no reply, then 1 day after, i text u again n then u decide to reply"

her answer? was "sorry"

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I didn't have this exact experience, but a very similar one with an Aries sun, Leo moon woman.

(Also had
Pisces mercury
Taurus Venus
Leo mars)

posted March 28, 2015 10:15 PM            

The attitude was what my mother used to call "Non Compos Mentis" which means "no one is home"

They were clueless and that was the strange thing for me lol

If a Scorpio Moon betrayed you, he would KNOW he was betraying you. They did not KNOW

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posted March 28, 2015 10:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am not trying to diss anyone with this thread. I am trying to understand the nature of things. For each person who loves a Cancer Moon, someone hates it. The same goes for any sign. So, please, relax to those people who are taking it personally. No person is bad. No sign is bad. They just look at things differently. It behooves us all to understand the nature of things, so we can help lead our lives the best way we can and choose those people who resonate with us

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You weren't? But your post is a clear diss in every way that you delivered it. It's not tasteful or near the level you addressed in your previous moon articles. This has bittness all in it and is very off-putting, Ami. We all have things we like and dislike but no one asks for that when reading an article. It's up to the reader to make up their own mind about it not have it made up for them. It's not about *I* when you have *us* reading them. You should be the most worried about how others perceive the message and I think it's clear how it was perceived.

I don't believe anyone that has commented on this thread to have had a tone of being offended. We're all simply questioning how an astrologer can actually write and believe such things and expect others to do the same. You shouldn't be offended and actually take note of the great advice you've been given here.

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posted March 29, 2015 12:18 AM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:

(I actually get this face a lot. LOL)

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posted March 29, 2015 01:32 AM            

Maybe you don't like Libra Moon cause it squares your Cancer Moon?

I am also a Libra Moon, loyalty is one of the most important things in the world to me... I used to think of cheating as the epitome of evil.. I think the first time I became aware of the phenomena of cheating was on a Saved by the Bell episode when Zach kisses someone else. I was furious and thought how could his girlfriend not have died inside and how could someone ever do that to someone else? I was very naive and had a very idealized romanticized version of love that I learned not a lot of people shared/lived up to. But I think I am very loyal. Also I have had extreme emotions my whole life, I don't think I'm cold but because I didn't grow up with love or being shown it, it is hard for me to express my love to others in person, but I think that also has to do with my Venus in the 12th and Saturn on the ASC making me very self conscious and shy (plus my Libra Moon is afflicted with 5 squares). But I feel so much love for so many people its ridiculous and I fall in love ridiculously easily. But I do agree with the indecision but I have 3 planets in Libra to contribute to that.

posted March 29, 2015 02:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Let me try to give an example. If a friend is being attacked and a person has to ASK what happened, rather than jump in and help, that person is not a friend, to me. I have had situations in which Libra Moons will, even, side with the person attacking me. Either of these situations ends the friendship for me. To me, loyalty trumps all.

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^This is complete BS! Just because someone is your friend does not mean that you should support everything that they say or do out of loyalty. I've witnessed you bully so many people in threads because one of your friends gets into a disagreement, and regardless of the circumstances you defend your friend. You are extremely biased as an astrologer and in the way you treat others. Did it ever occur to you that your Cancer Moon and Mars form a square to Libra Moons? Maybe the square to your Moon is to blame for your opinion of Libra Moons. I've lost count of how many times you've said that "Cancer is the best Moon". This is a matter of perspective, and I'm sure there are many people that don't agree. In the above example you gave, YOU are the one being a crappy excuse for a friend, because you ended the friendship due to the fact that your friend didn't automatically take your side. So much for being loyal to your friends, since you can toss them aside for daring to disagree with you. That's absurd! They were probably seeing the other person's point of view, which seems to be your weakness. You don't strike me as being very self aware or introspective when it comes to conflicts with other people. Your former friend probably felt pretty betrayed by you.

I'm a Libra Moon, and nothing in your article even comes close to describing my personality. One trait that I highly value is fairness. If a friend or family member gets into a confrontation with another person, I don't immediately take that person's side out of "loyalty". I'm very good at seeing the conflict from both sides, and explaining how the other person was viewing the situation. I am very open minded and I have the ability to see things from other people's perspective. I think this is a very positive trait of a Libra Moon. It doesn't make me a disloyal person.

I find that your astrological observations are way too opinionated and black & white. The whole chart needs to be looked at, and characterizing a person as cold and disloyal based on one placement is far too simplistic. My comments are not meant to be rude, but to offer constructive criticism, and an alternate point of view.

By the way, my Moon conjuncts Pluto by 1 degree in the 8th. Many Libra Mooners have a Moon/Pluto conjunction, and very deep emotions, even more so than other water placements. I'm also a Scorpio Sun and Mercury, with a 5 planet 8th house stellium. There is nothing cold or disloyal about me. Of course Sado is also on my Moon/Pluto, so according to you I'm a cold blooded sociopath, that likes to torture people for fun. Another example of you jumping to conclusions about a person because you knew one person with this placement, so everyone with that aspect is exactly like them. It's a disservice to those new to astrology to make such generalizations based on your personal experience. Hopefully the responses you're getting will help you realize this.

posted March 29, 2015 06:29 AM            

My Libra friend knows my side to the story and was empathetic towards me, when I told him... However, he continues to hang out with this guy and act like they are the best of friends. At one point he even told me that this guy is the most intelligent person he knows - and that he simply has issues with women, and always has... "Simply" - LMAO... Because it's such a small thing to be unable to relate with 50% of the world's population.

Anyway.. I *do* get it. I am not upset with him over this...I generally expect that Libra people will want to see both sides of any situation or issue.. and that they generally want to be on good terms with everyone around them. So I understand his behaviour and it's all good.

But... whether or not this could be considered "disloyal" depends on your definition of loyalty I guess.

If the tables were turned... and we had a different mutual friend who discriminated against gay people - and intentionally targeted him (the Libra guy!)... I would have (and still would now) *RIP* that person's head off.

I would not try to stay friends with them... or be nice to them, or find redeeming qualities in them, like their intelligence.
I would - literally - rip.their.head.right.off. LOL
First of all because I am strongly against discrimination of any kind, and secondly because the Libra guy is MY friend - and I defend my friends, I stand up for them.
I don't try to see both sides to the story. If I feel someone is targeted - and I am close to them, I will simply defend them against the attack. I have an Aries Sun sign so I instinctively do this.

So, on my definition of loyalty - there are times when I've considered Libra-influenced people disloyal. But I'm not very annoyed by it because I don't feel like I need someone to back me up. I'm fine on my own most of the time, and I do understand the Libran perspective on things and their reasons.
I also appreciate that Libra always comes across to me as -caring-. So, even though they might see both sides to the story... they do empathise with each person (and their own problems).

posted March 29, 2015 06:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

The attitude was what my mother used to call "Non Compos Mentis" which means "no one is home"

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the latin expression actually means: certifiably insane.

posted March 29, 2015 07:32 AM            

She didn't mean it in psychiatric way although she is a therapist

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posted March 29, 2015 08:11 AM            

This is what I think. No one looks at himself as "disloyal" That word is a loaded word, I know. Perhaps, another word could be used but when we distill language too much, we lose our meaning, altogether, so we need to be careful of that end too.

However, this is what I think. Loyalty and lack of it will be seen by a Cancer and Scorpio Moon in ONE way and by a Libra Moon in another.

This does not make the Libra Moon bad and the Cancer/Scorpio Moon good.

It makes them different.

Hope that helps

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