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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 60875 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 29, 2015 08:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell: In my experience "No one's home" is a term that usually means someone is stupid, but crazy works too.So it sounds like she meant insane.
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 10841 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted March 29, 2015 08:42 AM
Is this "controversy" still going on here?Ami, I think people are upset because they thought you're attempting to describe Libra Moons in general (for this, I think the experience with hundreds of charts should be used and the personal example excluded, as a rule of thumb in astrological articles, in order to avoid subjectivity and discredit attempts) Clearly your thread is about your personal experiences with the Libra Moon and everyone knows you mean well, so maybe you should add this title to the beginning of the thread, so that people won't get offended anymore of this biased negative description which in fact reflects your personal experiences with this Moon? How many Libra Moon people did you have as close friends/relatives who displayed these traits? Can you post the synastry? Usually the explanation for your negative experiences comes from a combined synastric context rather than the sign of one's planet or other, and we can take a look at the synastry and see what happened. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 4706 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 29, 2015 09:32 AM
Ami, I think what most of the problem is just that you are calling these "Articles". People are expecting to read about common traits of these moons. By common, I mean that most people could agree on. IE- readily visible traits. The easiest way that I know is to just think about the sign, think about the planet, and put them together like you're making a sandwich. What you're doing is giving your very specific cancer moon driven opinion. It's more like a blog type thing. If you don't like a placement, no biggie. But you're spreading your viewpoint in a way that sounds like it's the only truth. Observe these moons interacting with other moons, other people. I am what you would call a disloyal moon according to your view. My nearest and dearest friends are people that I've known for 15+ years. My best friend and I consider each other brothers. His sister is like my sister.(Leo with Aries moon) I'm invited over for holidays and everything, to spend time with his family, "our" family. He's also Gemini moon. Things happened over all these years that you would count as severe disloyalty but us both being Gemini moons we understand where the others point of view comes from. I put honesty above loyalty. Loyalty is a product of honesty in some ways, in my view. If done with love it builds trust. If you're blindly loyal, (I hate engaging in this loyal talk but whatever), what happens if two of your friends are fighting. Which one do you show loyalty to? Both? That's the kind of thing that I can't trust. If I'm one of the two and you feel that I'm wrong. Tell me, carefully explain the other point of view. Maybe I don't understand. That's loyalty to me. If I'm big enough to listen, understand, and apologize, all is well. Anyway... Just try to look beyond your own feelings. Well I'm exhausted with all this now. LOL IP: Logged |
the89freespirit Knowflake Posts: 520 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 29, 2015 10:05 AM
Guys, I wouldn't exert too much energy on this anymore. It's becoming completely clear that Ami isn't willing to truly listen to what you have to say. Basically, a few Libra Moons have hurt her feelings, in the past, and she still hasn't gotten over it. She says no placement is bad, all while saying nothing but negative things about Libra Moons.I find it very weird that loyalty or disloyalty is her benchmark for liking or disliking every Moon sign placement. And that she always finds a way to bring it back to having a Cancer Moon. It's blatant favoritism. It's also a very one-dimensional view of a placement. But, I think this thread should serve as a lesson to us all on how damaging these kinds of astrological biases are. I can't say that I haven't displayed a bias or two against people's placements in the past myself. But, from the endless responses from everyone in this thread, it's clear how misguided and immature that kind of thinking is. It does nothing but make you look bigoted and like you can't step into anyone else's shoes. By the way, I have a Water Moon (Scorpio) myself and I've grown to really respect and admire Air Moons. Sure, we have our differences. Gemini Moons can change their minds way too much, Libra Moons can be a bit too indecisive, and Aquarius Moons can be in outer space. But, I've grown to really like you guys. Gemini Moons tend to be hilarious and fascinating, Libra Moons are usually really nice and thoughtful, and Aquarius Moons are so independent and cool. So, what if you don't feel as "deeply" as I do? So what if your feelings change more easily or if you respond to things on a bit more of a mental level? You're still a human being. You still have feelings and you're still worthy of friendship. The day we determine people's characters by their charts is the day we seriously misuse astrology. Just because you look at someone else's chart doesn't mean you can know or predict everything about them. And it doesn't mean you should treat them differently. People are people and should be treated as such. I definitely don't expect Ami to change her tune, by this point. But, let's just let this fire die down already. Let's see this as a lesson and move on. ------------------ Check out My Astrology Blog: http://astroarena12.blogspot.com IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 60875 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 29, 2015 10:10 AM
I think everyone has had his/her say and that is really good. I hope you all learned some things from me and I learned some things from you and it is all kewl  ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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YellowGerbera Knowflake Posts: 412 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted March 29, 2015 01:30 PM
Wow... Just went through this whole thread. I was thinking omg libra moon so popular cuz the number of replies.. But no! It's like a war in here...  I though we always share our personal experiences. Astrology is made up of physical observations which also includes personal experiences. So why get offended by one's negative experiences...? Are we all supposed to have positive experiences..? That's also impossible! We need to share both the good and the bad. Wouldn't it be nice to know all different kinds of Libra moons that are out there?? IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 4706 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 29, 2015 01:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by YellowGerbera: Wow... Just went through this whole thread. I was thinking omg libra moon so popular cuz the number of repliettyls.. But no! It's like a war in here...  I though we always share our personal experiences. Astrology is made up of physical observations which also includes personal experiences. So why get offended by one's negative experiences...? Are we all supposed to have positive experiences..? That's also impossible! We need to share both the good and the bad. Wouldn't it be nice to know all different kinds of Libra moons that are out there??
No offense taken. Root of the issue. Giving personal experiences and labeling it as an unbiased description of the placement. It happens a lot but with her, people who pay money are getting this kind of information. As well as these articles going on her website as legit descriptions of placements. Which, it's her site, but whatever. We're trying to show her the error in that, not argue. Everyone has been fairly polite minus myself early on. LOL But I was in no way upset or offended. Which shows the nature of water vs. Air. Although a water moon here was also correcting her. It's all good when it's done in fun as is the case in the random observations thread. But the game changes when it's fed to masses of people as some legit description. The fact that she feels that way about Libra moon, I couldn't care any less about.
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Peluches Knowflake Posts: 623 From: Vαleŋtiŋe ~ Registered: Jul 2014
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posted March 29, 2015 01:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I think everyone has had his/her say and that is really good. I hope you all learned some things from me and I learned some things from you and it is all kewl 
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YellowGerbera Knowflake Posts: 412 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted March 29, 2015 01:39 PM
I was also thinking this (as in this type of argument in this thread) is what happenes when water moons (Like Ami & me) try to have a discussion with air moons (some of my ex frds & bfs with air moons). Like Ami said air moon and water moon approach a subject from totally different angle. I'm talking about stuff down here and they are talking about stuff up there... Conversation continues on a different plane and never intercept thus not coming to a conclusion or an agreement. I (water moon) usually just go okay... Let's get on with it... I get tired of making my point.. Lol! I don't know if anyone get what I said here...Ami's negative experience with Libra moon is real - you all just experienced what happened here, in this thread. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 4706 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 29, 2015 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Ami Anne: I think everyone has had his/her say and that is really good. I hope you all learned some things from me and I learned some things from you and it is all kewlShe does make a point here though. So I'm bailing. IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera Knowflake Posts: 412 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted March 29, 2015 01:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: No offense taken. Root of the issue. Giving personal experiences and labeling it as an unbiased description of the placement. It happens a lot but with her, people who pay money are getting this kind of information. As well as these articles going on her website as legit descriptions of placements. Which, it's her site, but whatever. We're trying to show her the error in that, not argue. Everyone has been fairly polite minus myself early on. LOL But I was in no way upset or offended. Which shows the nature of water vs. Air. Although a water moon here was also correcting her. It's all good when it's done in fun as is the case in the random observations thread. But the game changes when it's fed to masses of people as some legit description. The fact that she feels that way about Libra moon, I couldn't care any less about.
Thanks for your input, DeepFreeze  I never felt like she's labeling or claiming her observation as the "legit descriptions" so I'm still puzzled why ppl are upset I'm only a newbie so I wekcome any observations!! GO AMI GO!!!👯
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Aunt Anomalia Newflake Posts: 7 From: Pandora's box Registered: Mar 2015
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posted March 29, 2015 01:51 PM
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DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 4706 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 29, 2015 01:55 PM
I'd still like to see a Gemini moon one! (My moon) Even if I think it's crap, I'll be nice and I think it'd be fun. Ok that's all. IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera Knowflake Posts: 412 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted March 29, 2015 02:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: I'd still like to see a Gemini moon one! (My moon) Even if I think it's crap, I'll be nice and I think it'd be fun. Ok that's all.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 60875 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 29, 2015 02:17 PM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 60875 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 29, 2015 02:19 PM
No more Air Moon articles for me, or at least not put up on here  ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 4706 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 29, 2015 02:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by YellowGerbera: Would you do one?
I'd have to think about it. Possibly. But I'm not claiming to be an astrologer either. IP: Logged |
Dreaminess Knowflake Posts: 355 From: norway Registered: Aug 2014
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posted March 29, 2015 02:23 PM
Some cancer marses seriously needs to learn that they need to fight their own battles and stop thinking that they must be protected everytime they are in a conflict. I am not saying every cancer mars is like this but boy have i experienced a few of them taking a cowardly approach to conflicts. Ami dont speak for all cancer moons, i (a cancer moon) can fight my own battles and don`t really need or get upset if i am not defended in my battles, i actually prefer when someone that has nothing to do with the situation i am in to stay out of it. I think her view of "loyality" comes more from her cancer mars rather than her cancer moon bc i have experienced too many times now that cancer marses esp females likes protection when it comes to dealing with hard situations and have a hard time fighting their own battles. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Moderator Posts: 5524 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted March 29, 2015 02:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by YellowGerbera: Thanks for your input, DeepFreeze  I never felt like she's labeling or claiming her observation as the "legit descriptions" so I'm still puzzled why ppl are upset I'm only a newbie so I wekcome any observations!! GO AMI GO!!!👯
I've left this thread alone being that I'm exhausted of the same things being repeated here but I feel you are in need of more clarification. If you actually in fact read the entire thread as you say then you wouldn't be puzzled. You would understand why every person that has commented, (aside from 3 or 4 others) commented the way they did. There was no war here, we were all very respectful I thought in our approaches. The only person that took offense when given constructive criticism was in fact the original poster as it's clear in the way things were handled. That's okay though, no one is upset. Ami is still a person that I respect and will be there for if she ever needs me. As Ami stated earlier everyone has said what she/he felt needed to be said and would now like to move on. With that being said it's unnecessary to continue something that has already been settled. Sorry if what happened scared you but I have to tell you that this is nothing in comparison to past incidents. My advice would be to read and not feel what you think someone else meant because nine times out of ten your assumption is totally off. Just read, don't mix feelings where they aren't needed. IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera Knowflake Posts: 412 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted March 29, 2015 02:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: I've left this thread alone being that I'm exhausted of the same things being repeated here but I feel you are in need of more clarification. If you actually in fact read the entire thread as you say then you wouldn't be puzzled. You would understand why every person that has commented, (aside from 3 or 4 others) commented the way they did. There was no war here, we were all very respectful I thought in our approaches. The only person that took offense when given constructive criticism was in fact the original poster as it's clear in the way things were handled. That's okay though, no one is upset. Ami is still a person that I respect and will be there for if she ever needs me. As Ami stated earlier everyone has said what she/he felt needed to be said and would now like to move on. With that being said it's unnecessary to continue something that has already been settled. Sorry if what happened scared you but I have to tell you that this is nothing in comparison to past incidents. My advice would be to read and not feel what you think someone else meant because nine times out of ten your assumption is totally off. Just read, don't mix feelings where they aren't needed.
I said I'm puzzled because ppl seemed to be "offended" rather than "disagreeing" to what she said, but yeah don't need to go over this on and on. I didn't get a chance to input my thoughts in this read yet, that's all.
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YellowGerbera Knowflake Posts: 412 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted March 29, 2015 02:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: No more Air Moon articles for me, or at least not put up on here 
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YellowGerbera Knowflake Posts: 412 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted March 29, 2015 02:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: I'd have to think about it. Possibly. But I'm not claiming to be an astrologer either.
Hmm icic  You seem to have a strong opinion about Gemini moon (well cuz you're one) so I think you can start a great thread  IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera Knowflake Posts: 412 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted March 29, 2015 02:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Yellow GThank you, Bud 
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Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 551 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted March 29, 2015 02:57 PM
quote: Libra Moon will set itself on a course to justify what it wants to justify. It may ask many people until it finds the answer it wants. However, the answer seems to circumvent the heart and go to some version of the head. I think this trait is symbolic of Libra Moon. It does not seem to act from core, heart values in the same manner as a Cancer, Leo, Scorpio, Capricorn or Taurus Moon.
Wow. Ami, I'm baffled by your p.o.v here. I have not found this to be true at all and I know quite a number of people with Moon in Libra, and I as a person born with Moon in Capricorn find this mode to be much preferable to Moon in Capricorn. There is a lot of subjectivity in the Moon itself without consideration to sign, but to lead with this is to go off course right away and is based on the quality of person you have interacted with or the personal bias you have. quote:
Let me try to give an example. If a friend is being attacked and a person has to ASK what happened, rather than jump in and help, that person is not a friend, to me. I have had situations in which Libra Moons will, even, side with the person attacking me. Either of these situations ends the friendship for me. To me, loyalty trumps all.[quote] And there is the personal bias. Asking "what happened" is exactly what I do in those situations. Consider that your limited experiences with the particular people whose birth charts have included Moon in Libra have biased you in such a way that you are not able to see Moon in Libra for what it is. Certainly people with Libra factors in their charts can be so involved in searching for the best or ideal choice that they can procrastinate or have difficulty with some decisions. Part of it is that they are so committed to things being smooth, pleasant, pleasurable that they are afraid of being disappointed. Part of what the Libra type searches for socially is achieving some type of fairness given the people before them. Their immediate aim in such circumstances is resolution to peace -- or at least diffusion of conflict. [quote] Libra Moon has cold emotions.
Nonsense. You should know by now that a single planet/sign factor cannot allow such a blanket assertion about a category human beings. While Venus-influenced Moon positions could be described as "cool" -- "cold emotionally" is certainly not an accurate interpretation for this factor. "Vulnerable" and "Impressionable" or "People-pleasing" are better terms. quote:
This is not his fault either. He analyzes situations instead of feeling them. If he wanted to change this, he would need to pay particular attention to it. I don’t know if it can be changed but if it can be, it must be accepted first. I find that many air moons do not accept their own nature.
"That is just my experience." -- the truest thing in this set of assertions. I'd recommend you start over on this one. Your bias keeps you from seeing clearly. The Moon in Libra above all wants peace, balance and pleasant interaction with those around, to the extent that many are great hosts. But in situations of conflict may have a bit of a response that some interpret as identifying with or protecting one that may be attacked. They're looking to strike that balance point of fairness to bring things to a peaceful resolution. If what you expect is for them to side with you every time, then you are looking out for your interests, but not expecting them to look out for theirs. Which is to re-create a peaceful space/environment. No doubt that some Moon in Libra types are indulgent as much as anything else. This is where we allow room for one's overall development and maturity. What often occurs with the Moon in Libra type is a superficial assessment of some situations in which fairness is more easily achievable than a real resolution. But in most such situations that is all that they can help with anyway. Of course, the air signs have a different expectations than water/earth modes. It took me a while to learn that when one of my airy type friend said we'd do something or talk soon, they were just expressing they enjoyed what we just did and would enjoy it again. My earthy over-practical tendency back then took it like it were a commitment. Well developed Libra types lean heavily towards maintaining a balanced place of reasonable fairness in social interactions that serves as a basis for peace and/or a desirable environment. The interaction is more close to the surface (as would be suggested by Moon in air) so it is more responsive to what is in the moment as typically presented in social situations. You're just as likely to see a Moon in Libra type withdraw from an unpleasant or disruptive social situation as to side with those that are not their friends. They are personally and deeply affected by beauty, as the Venusian principle suggests. It is this that they crave and will engage in efforts to create this in their home and in society as they mature. If we use basic astrological principles we can see the Moon in a generally benefic position when in Taurus or Libra (Venus), Sagittarius (Jupiter), or in aspect to Jupiter and/or Venus. ------------------ Professional astrology - Expert rectification http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/ Rising Sign descriptions: https://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs-2/ IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 10841 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted March 29, 2015 03:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by YellowGerbera: I said I'm puzzled because ppl seemed to be "offended" rather than "disagreeing" to what she said, but yeah don't need to go over this on and on. I didn't get a chance to input my thoughts in this read yet, that's all.
I'm sorry, but if someone wants to describe their personal experiences, in their personal life, with a particular sign, that someone should entitle the thread as such. Analyzing a sign as an astrologer is a different process. We see this kind of subjectivity all the time on the forum, someone angry on a Gemini ex or relative and calling the whole sign of Gemini jerks, disloyal or whatever. I think this pollutes quality astrology. There is nothing wrong with sharing one's personal stories, but that's a different story than describing sign placements. Of course people get angry when someone portrays an entire sign as cold and disloyal, it's a common sense reaction to subjective prejudice. We are forming opinions here when we post articles as astrologers and this should be taken with a little bit more responsibility. Who cares about my personal life or my placements when I write a post or article about a zodiacal sign? IP: Logged |