posted March 29, 2015 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
I said I'm puzzled because ppl seemed to be "offended" rather than "disagreeing" to what she said, but yeah don't need to go over this on and on. I didn't get a chance to input my thoughts in this read yet, that's all.

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Perhaps if I threw up this post or DF wrote the Gem Moon post you are encouraging, then it wouldn't matter. In this case it matters, as the author is a self professed astrologer. This isn't about Air Moon vs Water Moons. This is about people.

Quoting Ami,

"Libra Moon does not see loyalty in the same way as does Cancer Moon. Libra Moon will set itself on a course to justify what it wants to justify. It may ask many people until it finds the answer it wants. However, the answer seems to circumvent the heart and go to some version of the head. I think this trait is symbolic of Libra Moon. It does not seem to act from core, heart values in the same manner as a Cancer, Leo, Scorpio, Capricorn or Taurus Moon."

Libra Moons are people. How's this for you?

A white person does not see loyalty in the same way as black person. A white person will set himself on a course to justify what he wants to justify. He may ask many people until he finds the answer he wants. However, the answer seems to circumvent the heart and go to some version of the head. I think this trait is symbolic of white people. They do not seem to act from core, heart values in the same manner as a black people.

posted March 29, 2015 03:12 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'm sorry, but if someone wants to describe their personal experiences, in their personal life, with a particular sign, that someone should entitle the thread as such. Analyzing a sign as an astrologer is a different process.

We see this kind of subjectivity all the time on the forum, someone angry on a Gemini ex or relative and calling the whole sign of Gemini jerks, disloyal or whatever. I think this pollutes quality astrology.

There is nothing wrong with sharing one's personal stories, but that's a different story than describing sign placements.

Of course people get angry when someone portrays an entire sign as cold and disloyal, it's a common sense reaction to subjective prejudice.

We are forming opinions here when we post articles as astrologers and this should be taken with a little bit more responsibility. Who cares about my personal life or my placements when I write a post or article about a zodiacal sign?

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Yeah, I see what you're saying, LeeLoo

posted March 29, 2015 03:19 PM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
[b] I said I'm puzzled because ppl seemed to be "offended" rather than "disagreeing" to what she said, but yeah don't need to go over this on and on. I didn't get a chance to input my thoughts in this read yet, that's all.

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Perhaps if I threw up this post or DF wrote the Gem Moon post you are encouraging, then it wouldn't matter. In this case it matters, as the author is a self professed astrologer. This isn't about Air Moon vs Water Moons. This is about people.

Libra Moons are people. How's this for you?

A white person does not see loyalty in the same way as black person. A white person will set himself on a course to justify what he wants to justify. He may ask many people until he finds the answer he wants. However, the answer seems to circumvent the heart and go to some version of the head. I think this trait is symbolic of white people. They do not seem to act from core, heart values in the same manner as a black people.

Yeah. I went there. Seemed necessary...Now I am going to follow the89freespirit's advice.[/B][/QUOTE]

Hmm I think you're going bit out of topic here.. But I think my response to LeeLoo answers what you asked me.

posted March 29, 2015 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
Yeah, I see what you're saying, LeeLoo

It's just..say if I made this thread, I would feel that these types of responses are expected. I be rolling everyone's eyes. LOLOL But for someone like Ami, who has been around and practicing astrology, her words definitely have good amount of credibility so that's why I felt what I felt..

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Uh wuh? No. No amount of time makes one credible. I could be the worst baker on the planet with 50 years on my plate doesn't change that the fact that I'm still **** . It's the way you deliver things and how people perceive them that matter. Ami is my friend as well and even if my Moon weren't in Libra I would still comment the exact same as I've done so. That to me is a friend. Not someone that smiles and kisses you know what when you know darn well you shouldn't be.

posted March 29, 2015 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by alyssa27:
libra moon here in 3rd and afflicted..i'm not offended by this article..it's amianne's personal opinion and personal emotions for the libra mooners..it's a subjective article..who says that the articles must be objective?..it's her site she can wrote whatever she likes..everything we wrote define us..obviously her style of writing is personal some will like this and some others not..there are so many astrologers and so many sites and articles traditional,modern,subjective objective or both everyone can choose what works and fits for them..personally i appreciate objectiveness more but i read everything..
the only thing i want to comment about the article itself and i want to cause i find it dangerous in some way:i will not take a side of my friend and i will not follow him/her in something that i see or i feel that it's wrong..i will say my opinion and discuss it,try to give my advice and point of view but i will not follow in something that i find wrong..it's like participating in something that i see it's bad for my friend and that's not love for me..

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I relate to what you wrote very much!
My pisces moon is in 3H, squares Saturn

posted March 29, 2015 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
Hmm I think you're going bit out of topic here.. But I think my response to LeeLoo answers what you asked me.

I'm just shocked to see/read the responses on this thread, that's all. Although I've seen worse ones on here too.... LOLOLOL

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It is indeed extreme, but not off topic.

posted March 29, 2015 03:39 PM            

Other assertions:
water void lacks empathy (this borders a psychopath assertion btw!!!)
Sun combust Mercury can't see themselves outsides of their ideas
Aquas are cold hearted meanies.

I'm gonna stop here!

posted March 29, 2015 03:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Uh wuh? No. No amount of time makes one credible. I could be the worst baker on the planet with 50 years on my plate doesn't change that the fact that I'm still **** . It's the way you deliver things and how people perceive them that matter. Ami is my friend as well and even if my Moon weren't in Libra I would still comment the exact same as I've done so. That to me is a friend. Not someone that smiles and kisses you know what when you know darn well you shouldn't be.

Now I'm done. Hopefully more will read before someone else has to repeat themselves again.

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I've only started googling (and how credible can some websites get, as opposed to reading books written by great astrologers...) about astrology two years ago! Everyone else on here are more credible than me! Lololol I'm making reaaaaly General comments here. Please don't take it too literal I respect everyone's opinion!

posted March 29, 2015 03:44 PM            

I don't need anything from Astrology. I don't need money.

I don't need recognition.

I like to be appreciated as everyone does but I don't have much ego in it.

I feel I was gifted in Astrology and part of that gift is to tell it how it is, as I see it.

That is what people get from me.

That is how I have chosen to be, on purpose because honesty is rare.

Pablum is everywhere. I do this on purpose because I HATE it when someone won't take a stand.

To me, they are wasting my time and money.

Moreover, I do not accept everyone as clients.

I turn away 4-5 people a week.

I want people who want to be gut level honest with themselves about who they are-- strengths and weaknesses.

I want people who can take my level of honesty.

I don't want to deal with people who fight me or harass me.

I don't have to

That is how I work and I have no plans on changing it lol

I can learn things and do all the time and then I modify.

If someone doesn't like what I do, don't call on me lol

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posted March 29, 2015 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Here is my POV on Astrology as I see it and I do it.

I don't need anything from Astrology. I don't need money.

I don't need recognition.

I like to be appreciated as everyone does but I don't have much ego in it.

I feel I was gifted in Astrology and part of that gift is to tell it how it is, as I see it.

That is what people get from me.

That is how I have chosen to be, on purpose because honesty is rare.

Pablum is everywhere. I do this on purpose because I HATE it when someone won't take a stand.

To me, they are wasting my time and money.

Moreover, I do not accept everyone as clients.

I turn away 4-5 people a week.

I want people who want to be gut level honest with themselves about who they are-- strengths and weaknesses.

I want people who can take my level of honesty.

I don't want to deal with people who fight me or harass me.

I don't have to

That is how I work and I have no plans on changing it lol

I can learn things and do all the time and then I modify.

If someone doesn't like what I do, don't call on me lol

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posted March 29, 2015 03:57 PM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:

Really? Are you puzzled? I am puzzled that you are puzzled. Astrology may be a hobby for you and me, but without responsible professionals who are objective, and see what they do as providing a service, then our hobby holds no substance and is a complete waste of time.

Perhaps if I threw up this post or DF wrote the Gem Moon post you are encouraging, then it wouldn't matter. In this case it matters, as the author is a self professed astrologer. This isn't about Air Moon vs Water Moons. This is about people.

Libra Moons are people. How's this for you?

A white person does not see loyalty in the same way as black person. A white person will set himself on a course to justify what he wants to justify. He may ask many people until he finds the answer he wants. However, the answer seems to circumvent the heart and go to some version of the head. I think this trait is symbolic of white people. They do not seem to act from core, heart values in the same manner as a black people.

Yeah. I went there. Seemed necessary...Now I am going to follow the89freespirit's advice.

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I see no problem in what you said, very insightful, thank you. I also noticed a pattern with people of a spiritual nature like Native Americans or any group of people who live from the core. That loyalty is not about gaining followers and blindly following suggestions or justifications as you mentioned. But loyalty is doing what is right and from the heart. On a personal note, when I was in school, how many kids did I see gang up on one kid just because the other kid was unpopular and the other kid was popular, and then they thought that was loyalty to the popular kid, or defending your friends or family and you know they're wrong. Loyalty is not always what it appears. No sign has a monopoly on loyalty, since we are all human and have a heart, all signs have a potential for loyalty. But loyalty must be questioned -- because if loyalty was questioned we wouldn't have had slavery, concentration camps, reservations etc. granted loyalty was a small part to a bigger picture to these atrocities, but still.... If someone would have stood up and questioned the "end justifies the means" crap, I think a lot could have been accomplished. Loyalty is always a double edged sword.

To be honest, I just like to read about astrology, but I don't get how people can just pick a few things out of a chart and blame that on what happened...it baffles me. The whole human experience and chart is bigger than that, sometimes the aspect someone thought was the culprit isn't even the one.

posted March 29, 2015 04:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
All I have to say as a friend, Ami, is that if you keep stuff like this up people will continue to take you less and less seriously. You can deny it until the cows come home but I know that anyone that spends as much time as you have on Astrology doesn't want that. You want to be taken seriously so that people come back to you. You've already admitted to not posting your other air moon articles. That's admitting defeat and that you're afraid of what others will say about those. That's not very fair, give it a chance. I see a lot of people here wanting to help you.

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Sorry, my Friend. I said it because I wanted to say it.

It is who I am--take it or leave it lol

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posted March 29, 2015 04:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Comatoes:
I see no problem in what you said, very insightful, thank you. I also noticed a pattern with people of a spiritual nature like Native Americans or any group of people who live from the core. That loyalty is not about gaining followers and blindly following suggestions or justifications as you mentioned. But loyalty is doing what is right and from the heart. On a personal note, when I was in school, how many kids did I see gang up on one kid just because the other kid was unpopular and the other kid was popular, and then they thought that was loyalty to the popular kid, or defending your friends or family and you know they're wrong. Loyalty is not always what it appears. No sign has a monopoly on loyalty, since we are all human and have a heart, all signs have a potential for loyalty. But loyalty must be questioned -- because if loyalty was questioned we wouldn't have had slavery, concentration camps, reservations etc. granted loyalty was a small part to a bigger picture to these atrocities, but still.... If someone would have stood up and questioned the "end justifies the mean" junk, I think a lot could have been accomplished. Loyalty is always a double edged sword.

To be honest, I just like to read about astrology, but I don't get how people can just pick a few things out of a chart and blame that on what happened...it baffles me. The whole human experience and chart is bigger than that, sometimes the aspect someone thought was the culprit isn't even the one.

Anyways, good stuff venus2tinkerbell

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I agree with you about loyalty.

I just want to be sure it is understood that in this quote

"A white person does not see loyalty in the same way as black person. A white person will set himself on a course to justify what he wants to justify. He may ask many people until he finds the answer he wants. However, the answer seems to circumvent the heart and go to some version of the head. I think this trait is symbolic of white people. They do not seem to act from core, heart values in the same manner as a black people."

I have quoted Ami

"Libra Moon does not see loyalty in the same way as does Cancer Moon. Libra Moon will set itself on a course to justify what it wants to justify. It may ask many people until it finds the answer it wants. However, the answer seems to circumvent the heart and go to some version of the head. I think this trait is symbolic of Libra Moon. It does not seem to act from core, heart values in the same manner as a Cancer, Leo, Scorpio, Capricorn or Taurus Moon."

Removing the word Libra and replacing it with white.

Just making sure...

Funny you should mention Natives. I am Native.

posted March 29, 2015 04:17 PM            

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posted March 29, 2015 04:27 PM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
I agree with you about loyalty.

I just want to be sure it is understood that in this quote

"A white person does not see loyalty in the same way as black person. A white person will set himself on a course to justify what he wants to justify. He may ask many people until he finds the answer he wants. However, the answer seems to circumvent the heart and go to some version of the head. I think this trait is symbolic of white people. They do not seem to act from core, heart values in the same manner as a black people."

I have quoted Ami

"Libra Moon does not see loyalty in the same way as does Cancer Moon. Libra Moon will set itself on a course to justify what it wants to justify. It may ask many people until it finds the answer it wants. However, the answer seems to circumvent the heart and go to some version of the head. I think this trait is symbolic of Libra Moon. It does not seem to act from core, heart values in the same manner as a Cancer, Leo, Scorpio, Capricorn or Taurus Moon."

Removing the word Libra and replacing it with white.

Just making sure...

Funny you should mention Natives. I am Native.

LOL! feeling a bit paranoid now, but I really do appreciate what you said about loyatly.

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Please don't feel paranoid, I think it all has to do with synchronicity, I'm always on the lookout for great insight from other people, you started my mind to thinking and I love that. Thanks

posted March 29, 2015 05:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Comatoes:
Please don't feel paranoid, I think it all has to do with synchronicity, I'm always on the lookout for great insight from other people, you started my mind to thinking and I love that. Thanks

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Ok I won't. I know what you mean about loving when someone inspires you to think and ponder. I'll keep an eye out for you and see if we can share some more.

posted March 29, 2015 05:59 PM            

I don't know about loyalty ( which I think I've been till now ) but for sure I've a hell lot of problem sticking to timelines so much so that my peers tell me to appear 1-2 hours former to the required time. So yes, I'm not punctual.

posted March 29, 2015 07:26 PM            

It is an opinion piece although if someone newer to astrology were to read it, I can see where it may start some confusion and questioning.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]Ami Anne, what degree is your moon sign in comparation to the Libra moons you had issues with (if you don't mind me asking)?

I am Cancer Moon at 6 degrees and conj the MC. I can't remember the Libra Moon degrees, my Friend.

I do realize that aspects to the Moon are very important and for that I thank all the people who participated in this thread!

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Do you have squares to the moon in your chart?

posted March 29, 2015 07:48 PM            

However, I have a purpose in life to which I feel I am called and that is to lead people to Jesus.

Astrology is just a tool in that ultimate purpose.

My website draws people and I have many interactions with people but my life purpose is to tell people about Jesus and I meet people who would never hear about Jesus in a traditional way.

My personal purpose is to HAVE MY VOICE, which I could not have as a child.

To me, having my voice is one of the most precious things I could ever attain.

Hence, if I feel a certain way about Libra Moon, I will say it because it is my voice and my voice is everything to me.

I can easily be politically correct. I could write a politically correct article on Libra Moon right now and everyone would like it except for me because I need to write as I SEE it, not as YOU want to hear it lol

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posted March 30, 2015 10:26 AM            

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Originally posted by geminigal2805:
I have nothing great to say about this article, but I have some good things to say about two darlings in my life.
I have two adorable Libra moon nieces. They are so warm and loving, I would never use the word cold to describe them. Even the Cap Sun, Libra moon girl. She is shy but has inner warmth that melts my heart every time she walks in.

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My sister is Cap sun, Libra moon too!
(Sag venus, Scorpio Mars.... Forget her mercury off the top of my head)