posted September 13, 2015 02:34 AM            

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Originally posted by LexusVirgo:
Was his best friend a girl because I heard libra men tend towards homisexuality.

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People who say this are idiots who confuse things like harmony of colors, caring about one's appearance, trying to get along (grumpy periods when the scales are out of whack not withstanding) or at least fair rather than being an ******* as being "effete" and "homosexual." They think gay men act that way without realizing that many straight men can as well. And from my observation most gay men are fairly masculine (most disagree as their contact with the gay community is minimal so they only see the the few flamboyant ones who live up to the stereotypes--sometimes they do it on purpose as a type of pride thing and wouldn't act that way if it wasn't expected by straight society--and believe that rare exception is standard rather than realizing there are gays everywhere whom they never even suspect, and they can be masculine acting, looking, and all else).

I'm really curious about one Libra man I know. He's very "masculine" looking and acting (like plenty of gay men, btw, not that he's gay) but it came after some traumatic abuse by family who thought his classic Libra traits meant he must be gay and tried to "beat the gay" out of him. He said there was a time he loved to wear pink of all things. He was particular about his hair (which he liked to keep short and neat), dressed sharply (though was still popular with girls, indeed, his family celebrated that he "wasn't gay" after an angry father called the Libra's father to say if they ever caught the Libra boy--at age 16--in bed with his daughter again he'd kill the boy ). They also didn't like that he was thoughtful, like if his mother wiped the counter he'd place his drink on something like a coaster or paper towel so as to not mess it up (he actually got in trouble for doing that!).

But by the time they wrung him out with their ignorant assumptions and abuse he'd changed, grew his hair and beard wild, sculpted his muscles working out, gained scars from street fights (and even brawling with the cops once), wore shabby clothes more often than not, and generally prefers the company of animals to people today rather than how gregarious and social he used to be. And it was after that change when I met him (the first time he approached me I actually reached for a knife as I found him scary) and my mind just boggles at what he was like before...and what he'd been like today if he hadn't been raised by violent homophobic idiots.

posted September 13, 2015 12:17 PM            

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Originally posted by LexusVirgo:
Was his best friend a girl because I heard libra men tend towards homisexuality.

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posted September 13, 2015 04:02 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
People who say this are idiots who confuse things like harmony of colors, caring about one's appearance, trying to get along (grumpy periods when the scales are out of whack not withstanding) or at least fair rather than being an ******* as being "effete" and "homosexual." They think gay men act that way without realizing that many straight men can as well. And from my observation most gay men are fairly masculine (most disagree as their contact with the gay community is minimal so they only see the the few flamboyant ones who live up to the stereotypes--sometimes they do it on purpose as a type of pride thing and wouldn't act that way if it wasn't expected by straight society--and believe that rare exception is standard rather than realizing there are gays everywhere whom they never even suspect, and they can be masculine acting, looking, and all else).

I'm really curious about one Libra man I know. He's very "masculine" looking and acting (like plenty of gay men, btw, not that he's gay) but it came after some traumatic abuse by family who thought his classic Libra traits meant he must be gay and tried to "beat the gay" out of him. He said there was a time he loved to wear pink of all things. He was particular about his hair (which he liked to keep short and neat), dressed sharply (though was still popular with girls, indeed, his family celebrated that he "wasn't gay" after an angry father called the Libra's father to say if they ever caught the Libra boy--at age 16--in bed with his daughter again he'd kill the boy ). They also didn't like that he was thoughtful, like if his mother wiped the counter he'd place his drink on something like a coaster or paper towel so as to not mess it up (he actually got in trouble for doing that!).

But by the time they wrung him out with their ignorant assumptions and abuse he'd changed, grew his hair and beard wild, sculpted his muscles working out, gained scars from street fights (and even brawling with the cops once), wore shabby clothes more often than not, and generally prefers the company of animals to people today rather than how gregarious and social he used to be. And it was after that change when I met him (the first time he approached me I actually reached for a knife as I found him scary) and my mind just boggles at what he was like before...and what he'd been like today if he hadn't been raised by violent homophobic idiots.

ETA: forgot the delicious irony in that because he was beaten for "being gay" so often by his dad (and other male authority figures in his family) he came to sympathize with the gay community. Gay bashers reminded him of the men who abused him growing up and some of the street fights he got into were bashing the bashers. If his family knew they probably thought that "confirmed" their wrong beliefs about him rather than realizing they made him sympathize with anyone who lived in fear of violent persecution.

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posted September 13, 2015 05:22 PM            

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Originally posted by LexusVirgo:
I was stating what I read in a few books about libra there was no need for this long story.

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And I was stating what those authors were assuming. They are wrong.

posted September 13, 2015 05:28 PM            

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Originally posted by LexusVirgo:
I was stating what I read

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posted September 13, 2015 08:01 PM            

I also dislike inaccuracy. Linda Goodman explained how out of all the signs Libra had more of a "gender balance" than the others which meant the men could be more feminine and women more masculine, though not at the expense of their actual gender. Yet some people just assume that as Libra men aren't chest beating bozos that they're therefore prone to being gay. More accurate criticisms are okay, however. Read my first post on this thread to show I acknowledge some negative Libras. Linda Goodman also makes me laugh in some of the criticisms of Libra (she does a good examination of the good/bad of every sign and it's not based merely on sun sign).

And the one being defensive is you who is imagining a tone I don't intend (or at least directed at you when it wasn't). You asked, I answered, and when I've asked about the quality of sources I don't think I'm being called uneducated if someone says the source isn't valid, nor do I feel personally criticized if those sources are criticized. But then I'm looking for a genuine critique, not validation. I never said anything bad about you, only the sources (authors and forums) you asked about. I did judge the sources you shared here harshly (and think they deserve it), but not you.

posted September 13, 2015 08:32 PM            

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Originally posted by LexusVirgo:
Yes forums and authors are shallow I made this thread to gain knowledge from ppl outside of books ? Do you not understand?

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What I don't understand is why you feel personally attacked. Are you one of the authors that said Libra men tend to be gay? Were you the one describing them as selfish premadonnas? No? Then why are you acting as if I'm criticizing you instead of them?