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Topic: How do you feel about fatalism in astrology?
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UnderworldGlory
Knowflake Posts: 43
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2015
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posted July 13, 2015 04:21 PM
  
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Originally posted by GemBird82:
~ Fatalism ?
* I'm like ... "Aww, please, don't touch me ~ don't touch me ! " 
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GemBird82
Knowflake Posts: 726
From: Female bird from France
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 13, 2015 04:24 PM
* GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!
( Finally, day 13th has arrived so it's time to spit some truth ! )
****************************************** When I read a huge amount of deceiving falsehood in the Astrology World I'm also like:
~ Ok, who is responsible for this ?
Is that you White Reptilian with the long tail ? Oh my, You're gonna pay for this ! 
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UnderworldGlory
Knowflake Posts: 43
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Registered: Jul 2015
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posted July 13, 2015 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by GemBird82:
* GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!
Finally, day 13th has arrived so it's time to spit some truth !***************************************** * When I read a huge amount of deceiving falsehood in the Astrology World I'm also like: ~ Ok, who is responsible for this ? Is that you white Reptilian with the long tail ? Oh my, You're gonna pay for this !
LOL.
KA........ME....HA....ME...............
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GemBird82
Knowflake Posts: 726
From: Female bird from France
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 13, 2015 04:29 PM
~ HHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! ... lol 
what an amusing show it was, I remember myself laughing at the funny Aliens (and the cheesy quotes) back in the day when I was still a little bird lol
aaahhh those 90's cartoons were always funny to watch.
~ Yes sir, you aren't so tough after all. Are you, you little wimp? ~ Looks like it's your turn to spend some time in the rejuvenation tank ~ Hey! u guys lookin' for someone? xD! IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted July 13, 2015 05:57 PM
^^ LOL
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Odette
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posted July 13, 2015 05:59 PM
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Soltze
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posted July 13, 2015 06:15 PM
This tread is really interesting. I don't believe in a fatalistic approach.
But I believe some negative interpretations of the degrees are just potentials...it doesn't mean we are violent or liars for example. It can be mean though that if we don't follow a good path we can fall into such flaws. Or be the victims of them.I hope I wasn't confusing LOL.
Well, for me astrology is like a road map for life but with effort and our free will we can conteract negative influences. Have a great night everyone :-)) IP: Logged |
astra7
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From: I live at 667
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 13, 2015 06:28 PM
I'm sorry this thread has derailed completely. My saying of gender example was that when a baby is born a boy, for example, it has a penis and anatomically and medically defined as male. When that baby learns to speak and express what he think is another matter and this day and age, you can be anything with hormone replacement treatment, surgery etc but the fact is.... the baby was born a boy and nobody can change about that.
Equally, if you were born blind, lets say.... there is no freewill in there. It's not like hair color we can change from one month to the next. However, fate can be changed in that 'emptiness' space if you know how to access it. That's where all possibilities exists...beyond human beliefs.
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midnightvenus
Knowflake Posts: 600
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Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 13, 2015 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by NoireAries:
Ummm... You don't have to be cissexist to give an example of fate. If a person is assigned female at birth but says they are male they are male. Gender is a construct and not so black and white or rigid. Please choose better words next time.
It's not cissexist to acknowledge biology. Just like it's not heresy to acknowledge that Earth isn't the center of the universe. It's science.
Also gender/=/sex. Someone can change their gender, but they can't change their DNA, which is what defines their sex. IP: Logged |
midnightvenus
Knowflake Posts: 600
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Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 13, 2015 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by FruityLlama:
The astrotheme sabian symbols are mostly negative in interpretation for every degree i've looked up to date. The symbols themselves though are beautifully written and i just love them. I got worried about one of my degree interp and asked on her and someone kindly replied saying you should focus more on the symbol and what it means to you rather than its interpretation 
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Lethargic-
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Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 13, 2015 11:38 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
Yesss. You are the creator of your own reality.
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NoireAries
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posted July 14, 2015 11:24 PM
I've thought about it and thought about it some more. Maybe I did jump the gun. Maybe I thought that I saw some ~grave~ injustice that I felt I needed to speak on (natal Mercury retrograde). (But isn't that what Arians do best? Act first, realize the consequences later?) Then my more ~knowledgeable-than-thou~ side saw an opportunity to shine only to show how little I actually knew. I let my emotions and false sense of pride get the best of me and made of fool of myself. I would just chalk it up to my age and being young but that's really no excuse. I know all this just seems like a big excuse but this is actually an apology. I'm sorry to OP for derailing your thread asking an innocuous question about fatalism in astrology. I apologize for attacking people on here for literally no reason and probably with an air of intellectual superiority. Basically I'm sorry for starting drama when there wasn't the need for none. So...peace. IP: Logged |
UnderworldGlory
Knowflake Posts: 43
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2015
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posted July 15, 2015 12:39 AM
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Originally posted by NoireAries:
I've thought about it and thought about it some more. Maybe I did jump the gun. Maybe I thought that I saw some ~grave~ injustice that I felt I needed to speak on (natal Mercury retrograde). (But isn't that what Arians do best? Act first, realize the consequences later?) Then my more ~knowledgeable-than-thou~ side saw an opportunity to shine only to show how little I actually knew. I let my emotions and false sense of pride get the best of me and made of fool of myself. I would just chalk it up to my age and being young but that's really no excuse. I know all this just seems like a big excuse but this is actually an apology. I'm sorry to OP for derailing your thread asking an innocuous question about fatalism in astrology. I apologize for attacking people on here for literally no reason and probably with an air of intellectual superiority. Basically I'm sorry for starting drama when there wasn't the need for none. So...peace.
You know, that's really sweet. :-)
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NoireAries
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posted July 15, 2015 01:30 AM
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Originally posted by UnderworldGlory:
You know, that's really sweet. :-)
Yeah, that was just a hot mess. Sorry for all that. It's really embarrassing now. :/ I can't even look at what I wrote anymore even though I kept replaying in my head these past couple of days. Apologizing just seemed like the right thing to do at this point, and I promise that it was sincere. IP: Logged |
UnderworldGlory
Knowflake Posts: 43
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2015
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posted July 15, 2015 05:31 AM
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Originally posted by NoireAries:
Yeah, that was just a hot mess. Sorry for all that. It's really embarrassing now. :/ I can't even look at what I wrote anymore even though I kept replaying in my head these past couple of days. Apologizing just seemed like the right thing to do at this point, and I promise that it was sincere.
Well to be fair he was being kind of a cissexist.
But what midnightvenus said was true. On the other hand, I think it's kind of ironic how everything I post ablazes Maybe it's just my 8th house? XD IP: Logged |
UnderworldGlory
Knowflake Posts: 43
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2015
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posted July 15, 2015 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by UnderworldGlory:
Well to be fair he was being kind of a cissexist. You ultimately do get to decide which gender you wish to stick to. But he was just giving us an example, albeit a rude one. But what midnightvenus said was true. On the other hand, I think it's kind of ironic how everything I post ablazes Maybe it's just my 8th house? XD
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NoireAries
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Registered: Jun 2015
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posted July 15, 2015 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by UnderworldGlory:
Well to be fair he was being kind of a cissexist. But what midnightvenus said was true. On the other hand, I think it's kind of ironic how everything I post ablazes Maybe it's just my 8th house? XD
Lol. So this is common then? That kinda sucks. XD I mainly use the equal house system so I don't have anything in the 8th so I can't really relate (although my Pluto r is in the 8th when I use the whole house system). But I'm glad that things are sort of cleared up between us now and you kinda saw where I was coming from (again that natal Mercury retrograde). Because if a person says that a person who is “born” X or Y sex and gets surgery and they say they’re still an X or Y, that’s cissexism. They’re invalidating trans identities with their biological essentialism. The other person is wrong too because sex is not assigned by your DNA or chromosomes or whatever; it’s mainly assigned via what your genitals look like. A better example of fate would have been being born into a poor family. You can’t change the circumstances from which you were born into but it is very possible, albeit very hard, to change them in the future. But both take individual and collective choices (free will) and systems and situations that are out of your control (fate) to get there.
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