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Topic: What makes a planet dominant?
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goddessofthemoon Knowflake Posts: 823 From: Manhattan Registered: Dec 2014
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posted July 21, 2015 06:23 PM
What exactly makes a planet dominant? I'm still new to astrology so bare with me Apparently, Jupiter is my dominant planet but based on the degrees, shouldn't Uranus be my dominant planet - especially since it's in Capricorn? (I have a cap stelium) Randall: Please don't move to Personal Readings. I am not asking for a chart reading. IP: Logged |
Geminiyoungster Knowflake Posts: 251 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted July 21, 2015 06:26 PM
I'm wondering this too, did you do colorscope on astro? Pullen said I was Venus dominant and color horoscope said that I was mercury dominantIP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 4568 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 21, 2015 06:28 PM
Dominant means the planet that rules the sign and that its more powerful because it's at home. Astrology is about strengths and weaknesses. Edit.. I never knew what Dom meant but knew it referred to the strength of the planet in the sign. Here are the dominant planets and signs: Sun in Leo Moon in Cancer Mercury in Gemini Venus in Libra Mars in Aries Jupiter in Sagittarius Saturn in Capricorn Uranus in Aquarius Neptune in Pisces Pluto in Scorpio IP: Logged |
midnightvenus Knowflake Posts: 601 From: outerspace Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 21, 2015 06:29 PM
The 'DOM' there doesn't mean dominant. It means domicile. A planet is domicile when they're in the sign they rule, like Jupiter rules Sag.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9417 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 21, 2015 06:30 PM
A planet can be "dominant" if it's conjunct an angle in your chart (ASC/DSC, IC/MC); if it rules a stellium (e.g. You have a Capricorn stellium - Saturn is a dominant), and some people consider the ruler of the ASC as automatically "dominant".But you'll probably get as many variable opinions as there are people who are into astrology on this one. IP: Logged |
ReadingTheStars95 Knowflake Posts: 512 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 21, 2015 06:32 PM
Actually..Dom. In this circumstance stands for 'Domicile' Domicile/Domicilium is basically the Latin term for home/dwelling/at home.. So.. When a planet is in domicile, that usually means it is in the sign it rules. Since Jupiter rules Sagittarius, it is at home in Sagittarius. It's where the planet is most comfortable being.. The place it understands the most. IP: Logged |
goddessofthemoon Knowflake Posts: 823 From: Manhattan Registered: Dec 2014
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posted July 21, 2015 06:45 PM
Well now I'm embarrassed! Thanks for clearing that up for me, Athene and Reading Makes sense now. Doux Rêve, thank you! If that's the case: Saturn, Sun, and Moon are my dominant planets. Geminiyoungster, I've used that as well and got that I was Mercury dominant also! For this though, I just used the Astrodienst style chart. IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 453 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 21, 2015 09:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: A planet can be "dominant" if it's conjunct an angle in your chart (ASC/DSC, IC/MC); if it rules a stellium (e.g. You have a Capricorn stellium - Saturn is a dominant), and some people consider the ruler of the ASC as automatically "dominant".But you'll probably get as many variable opinions as there are people who are into astrology on this one.
If that's the case I'd have : Sun (LeoRising, Sun Conjunct IC {10 orb though}) Saturn (Conjunct ASC) Venus (Libra Stellium, Libra Venus), Mars, Pluto (Scorpio Stellium) Mercury (Conjunct IC) *Stellium in this case is 3 planets--though there is NN, PoF, Ceres, Spica, Vesta etc in there as well. How do you figure out which is the MOST dominant? IP: Logged |
ReadingTheStars95 Knowflake Posts: 512 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 21, 2015 10:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by ScorpieScorp: If that's the case I'd have : Sun (LeoRising, Sun Conjunct IC {10 orb though}) Saturn (Conjunct ASC) Venus (Libra Stellium, Libra Venus), Mars, Pluto (Scorpio Stellium) Mercury (Conjunct IC)*Stellium in this case is 3 planets--though there is NN, PoF, Ceres, Spica, Vesta etc in there as well. How do you figure out which is the MOST dominant?
If you are willing to post your chart, or send me a picture of it.. I'd be willing to help you out. (I mean.. I could try and figure out by what you put.. But, seeing the actual chart helps a lot. )
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Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 883 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted July 21, 2015 10:17 PM
What makes a planet dominant is if it is the planet in tightest alignment with the Asc or MC. Often a person will have more than one planet in angular aspect (conjunct/parallel, square, opposite/contra-parallel) with these. So it can be difficult to say which is dominant. In addition, and far more technically, when the birth chart is rectified to its precisely exact valid position (to the minute of arc) there may be planets in tight alignment with house cusps that show their dominance in that way. But in the example provided by goddess, those who point out that 'DOM' means "Domicile", a planet in its own sign (dignity) are correct. ------------------
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Seimei Knowflake Posts: 564 From: LafaLott,La.U.S.A. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 21, 2015 10:18 PM
ScorpieScorp posted this"But you'll probably get as many variable opinions as there are people who are into astrology on this one." And it is true so I want to agree and dissent a bit. Any planet in its earth viewed position that is conjunct it own heliocentric node or the Helio node of another is "DOMINANT" since you only showed us Jupiter and Uranus I don't know if this applies at all to your own chart. So if you had Aries rising it might be said that Mars is chart ruler,but IF Mercury was at 16sag > H. south node Venus It would be stronger in your true self than what may be seen than the Aries rising/Mars energy. Of course that is just my observation For all practical purposes the positions below are fixed as Helio Nodes move very little. MERCURY 17.59 Taurus (North Nodes) and 17.59 Scorpio (South Nodes) MARS 19.24 Taurus (North Nodes) and 19.24 Scorpio (South Nodes) URANUS 14.01 Gemini (North Nodes) and 14.01 Sagittarius (South Nodes) VENUS 16.30 Gemini (North Nodes) and 16.30 Sagittarius (South Nodes) JUPITER 10.14 Cancer (North Nodes) and 10.15 Capricorn (South Nodes) PLUTO 19.54 Cancer (North Nodes) and 19.54 Capricorn (South Nodes) SATURN 23.30 Cancer (North Nodes) and 23.30 Capricorn (South Nodes) NEPTUNE 11.33 Leo (North Nodes) and ll.33 Aquarius (South Nodes) Plus .. CHIRON 29.09 Libra (North Nodes) and 29.09 Aries (South Nodes) ------------------ Seimei, Jupiter Nadir IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 453 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 21, 2015 10:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95: If you are willing to post your chart, or send me a picture of it.. I'd be willing to help you out. (I mean.. I could try and figure out by what you put.. But, seeing the actual chart helps a lot. )
Sure, here you go (without Ceres, etc) IP: Logged |
ReadingTheStars95 Knowflake Posts: 512 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 22, 2015 03:07 AM
^^^ there any way you could post the aspect table too? I can work off just what you have, but having the aspect table sometimes helps me see things a bit better.IP: Logged |
Sven555 Knowflake Posts: 828 From: UK Registered: Jul 2012
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posted July 22, 2015 04:23 AM
@ScorpieScorpJupiter is your most dominant planet. It recieves the most aspects (Regardless of applying/seperating). Moon square Jupiter Jupiter Square Pluto. Venus trine Jupiter. Jupiter trine Uranus. Using Modern astrology, Jupiter aspects the rulers of 3 of your 4 angles (Pluto as 4th; Uranus as 7th, Venus as 10th) which is a strong testimony. So additional strength is given to it. Despite your natal Jupiter being in Retrograde, it sits in the 11th house which is a good house for Jupiter. In horary astrology, Jupiter in the 11th house is in it's 'house of joy'. Jupiter is exalted when in Cancer, so it can still function positively despite the fact that it's not in it's home sign(s). This is why your Jupiter is most dominant. Do you feel Jupiter alot in yourlife? EDIT: Just realised that you weren't the OP, but looking again at your chart, Jupiter appears to be up there if it is not your dominant planet; i'd also say Saturn is dominant in your chart too. IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 453 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 22, 2015 07:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95: ^^^ there any way you could post the aspect table too? I can work off just what you have, but having the aspect table sometimes helps me see things a bit better.
Sure--here you go! IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 453 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 22, 2015 07:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sven555: @ScorpieScorpJupiter is your most dominant planet. It recieves the most aspects (Regardless of applying/seperating). Moon square Jupiter Jupiter Square Pluto. Venus trine Jupiter. Jupiter trine Uranus. Using Modern astrology, Jupiter aspects the rulers of 3 of your 4 angles (Pluto as 4th; Uranus as 7th, Venus as 10th) which is a strong testimony. So additional strength is given to it. Despite your natal Jupiter being in Retrograde, it sits in the 11th house which is a good house for Jupiter. In horary astrology, Jupiter in the 11th house is in it's 'house of joy'. Jupiter is exalted when in Cancer, so it can still function positively despite the fact that it's not in it's home sign(s). This is why your Jupiter is most dominant. Do you feel Jupiter alot in yourlife? EDIT: Just realised that you weren't the OP, but looking again at your chart, Jupiter appears to be up there if it is not your dominant planet; i'd also say Saturn is dominant in your chart too.
Thanks for the analysis Sven--appreciate it! What does OP mean btw? I never thought of Jupiter as my dominant. I definitely feel Saturn a lot, especially lately with it being in Scorpio. But given that it is on my ASC, I feel it all the time. My job requires that I be very extroverted--and Saturn on my ASC can make me seem reserved, at first.. IP: Logged |
Sven555 Knowflake Posts: 828 From: UK Registered: Jul 2012
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posted July 22, 2015 12:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by ScorpieScorp: Thanks for the analysis Sven--appreciate it!What does OP mean btw? I never thought of Jupiter as my dominant. I definitely feel Saturn a lot, especially lately with it being in Scorpio. But given that it is on my ASC, I feel it all the time. My job requires that I be very extroverted--and Saturn on my ASC can make me seem reserved, at first..
You are welcome Scorpie! OP means Original Poster. (First poster) Oh right! Well it's definately up there in the dominance chart, but Saturn might be higher as it's conjunct your ASC. Even though you feel reserved, at first; do you feel positive too? IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 453 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 22, 2015 01:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sven555: You are welcome Scorpie!OP means Original Poster. (First poster) Oh right! Well it's definately up there in the dominance chart, but Saturn might be higher as it's conjunct your ASC. Even though you feel reserved, at first; do you feel positive too?
Hmmm, I do for the most part. But I'm a worrier as well...Saturn and Jupiter duking it out? ;p
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Sven555 Knowflake Posts: 828 From: UK Registered: Jul 2012
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posted July 22, 2015 01:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by ScorpieScorp: Hmmm, I do for the most part. But I'm a worrier as well...Saturn and Jupiter duking it out? ;p
Good good, oh you are one of those Well Mercury is square your Saturn and opposite your MC. So that could be the source of your worries. It's restriction vs expansion haha. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 883 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted July 22, 2015 04:36 PM
In the chart above posted by ScorpieScorp, Saturn is clearly in the most 'dominant' position, assuming the chart is correct as-is.The only possible modifier to this, for this chart's Asc at supposedly 12N04, is whether Chiron at 11N56 is in tighter parallel to the correct exact Asc position than Saturn at 12N47. Often the most dominant planet cannot be determined by looking at the flat wheel chart alone. The declinations must be taken into account. Even then, full validation of the Asc sign/degree is necessary (for those who know how to do this) to be certain. You can't be certain of dominant planet unless you use declinations for every chart -- and validate every Asc. This can be painstaking work even for those of us who know how to do it. ------------------
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ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 453 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 22, 2015 06:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sven555: Good good, oh you are one of those Well Mercury is square your Saturn and opposite your MC. So that could be the source of your worries. It's restriction vs expansion haha.
Ahhhh--good insight--that could be! Thanks for noting that, I'm going to dig a little more into that since that never occurred to me... IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 453 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 22, 2015 06:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: In the chart above posted by ScorpieScorp, Saturn is clearly in the most 'dominant' position, assuming the chart is correct as-is.The only possible modifier to this, for this chart's Asc at supposedly 12N04, is whether Chiron at 11N56 is in tighter parallel to the correct exact Asc position than Saturn at 12N47. Often the most dominant planet cannot be determined by looking at the flat wheel chart alone. The declinations must be taken into account. Even then, full validation of the Asc sign/degree is necessary (for those who know how to do this) to be certain. You can't be certain of dominant planet unless you use declinations for every chart -- and validate every Asc. This can be painstaking work even for those of us who know how to do it.
That's so very interesting that you mention Chiron...with it being the "handle" to the bowl--and with it being in the 9th House and my urge to always teach people this or that--I've wondered if Chiron plays as much as role as a planet in my chart... Thanks for pointing that out! IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 55221 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2015 07:21 PM
Great info!IP: Logged |