posted July 26, 2015 02:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Defensive much??? Zing!!!!

Tuche. This was not an attack.

Btw- you wouldn't happen to have Scorpio Mars would you?

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Yes, I do have a Scorpio Mars. And I wasn't being defensive. I was clarifying.

Because people didn't seem to understand that this had nothing to do with modern astrology yet they keep justifying this concept by using the modern day astrology "logic". I had to clarify. And some people are arguing where this book is from. I just had to tell them the source from which I got this info because they're accusing me.

posted July 26, 2015 02:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Spica:
No offence but, are you dumb?

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This is a forum where everyone should be able to express their views without bashing comments.

posted July 26, 2015 03:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Defensive much??? Zing!!!!

Tuche. This was not an attack.

Btw- you wouldn't happen to have Scorpio Mars would you?

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posted July 26, 2015 07:25 PM            

sun sign: aries and leo
moon sign: leo and taurus moons

most friends end up gemini suns

posted July 26, 2015 07:39 PM            

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Originally posted by GemBird82:
~ Yes, defensive as you can't possibly imagine would be the best way to describe that placement.

Not the first time that energy has revelead its true colors in this forum. (plenty of times, to be honest) You folks might not remember this guy I'm gonna mention, but dude was born on 12/11/89... oh my, quite an uber-defensive being. NWIH I could have known that specimen was a male, urrgh...
[ but it was funny anyway, I thought He was one (bad) woman scorned lol ! ]
10 thumbs up Aries23

@Spica
~ At least try to be kind enough to heal that lower octave

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( Hope I haven't unleashed quite a bunch of super-ultra vidictive threads/posts about this, ( being a vampire must be really difficult ) )

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What are you saying? In this particular situation, what constructive purpose do these comments have? Your last statement simultaneously insults the OP, provokes the exact response you "hope" not to incite, and preemptively sanctions any defensive behavior. C'mon. Who are you to assert insults then judge a completely understandable reaction as if it would be immature or "lower octave" when it's exactly the behavior you're demonstrating.

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Originally posted by Seimei:

No offense taken > what is offence?

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There are lots of spelling variants among English language users from different countries.
http://www.dailywritingtips.com/20-words-with-more-than-one-spelling/
http://www.mohawkcollege.ca/Assets/Communications+Centre/Helpful+Facts+Sheets/Canadian+vs+American+Spelling.pdf
http://www.tysto.com/uk-us-spelling-list.html
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/offense?q=offence

Such a response is just as ignorant as the point you are making with that comment.

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Spica,

posted July 26, 2015 08:53 PM            

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Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars:
What are you saying? In this particular situation, what constructive purpose do these comments have? Your last statement simultaneously insults the OP, provokes the exact response you "hope" not to incite, and preemptively sanctions any defensive behavior. C'mon. Who are you to assert insults then judge a completely understandable reaction as if it would be immature or "lower octave" when it's exactly the behavior you're demonstrating.
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Originally posted by Seimei:
>>>No offense taken > what is offence? >>>

Such a response is just as ignorant as the point you are making with that comment.

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posted July 26, 2015 09:38 PM            

^ This is exactly my point. Again, what are you saying? If you have a worthy opinion, I will respect it. Don't answer my question with a question. Straight up, what do you mean? In the context of what you wrote, those references were offensive. Don't single out those words as if they stand alone.

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Since when these 2 words => "lower octave" are an insult(?) a vampiric attitude is not an insult ( unleast your perception about a vampire or vampiric being comes from an ugly monster of B movie )
Hmmm, you've have reacted like if my words were expressed with anger or that sort of feeligs. ~ Oh, I'm afraid that's not the case.

^ I see a lot of your posts, and I rarely infer anger or anything of the like including the one I've responded to. My point is - where's the constructive value? What we have in this situation is a person being defensive, a person with a mars placement you know to react defensively - why make comments that will more likely than not, provoke more defensiveness. What you said about "lower octave" behavior is not in itself offensive - it's everything you said along with it.

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What you perceive as "understandable reactions"... believe me, they are not.

^ Perception is so subjective. Who says what you perceive is correct? This is my problem... We put so much pressure on ourselves and others to behave "appropriately." What does that even mean? Is defensiveness inappropriate? Is it circumstantial? Ok in some cases, but not in others? Who determines when it's ok or isn't. All I'm trying to accomplish is affording each other and ourselves a little more understanding.

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But if you don't agree with me, I'll understand and will not try to prove you are "in fault". Because I am no manipulative person.

^ I never got the impression that you were, but maybe be a bit more mindful. I don't even think either of us are in fault. I just think your comments could have been better stated.

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One more thing I'd like to add.
When people victimize themselves trying to justify their bad behavior. It's the same as if an alcoholic person tries to manipulate their relatives when they confront him/her, manipulating people trough deceitful emotions and words, refusing to accept their folly. It's not understandable at any cost.

^ Agreed! However, there is a difference between saying, "At least try to be kind enough to heal that lower octave." Period! Look at what goddessofthemoon wrote.

But, to include:

"( Hope I haven't unleashed quite a bunch of super-ultra vidictive threads/posts about this, ( being a vampire must be really difficult ) )"

^ Insulting. Don't sidestep it.

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~ And I write down these words with no feelings at all.

^ that is probably not the best approach, nor do I recognize (recognise) it to be true.

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If for you, the better solution means to give *hugs* to those that don't even realize their folly. You can do it, but I warn you, 98% of the times, you'll be wasting you emotional support in folks that project an illusion about themselves (often telling you avoiding stuff as: "Everyone makes mistakes", "it's understandable", "it got misinterpreted", "you missed the whole point", "you are attacking me") playing the victim role and not willing to change.

^ Absolutely not trying to encourage negative behavior, but like I've already mentioned, there is a difference between tactful, constructive criticism (and I do understand that harsh realities cannot be sugarcoated ), and references to vindictive, B movie characters. BTW, the examples you've given are not at all what I consider constructive criticism. Those are enabling comments that I do not condone, so I am with your train of thought there.

posted July 26, 2015 10:40 PM            

~ Oh, I have a hunch that this could be quite a long converstation. But, don't worry, I don't let that happen. I don't want you to be forever here.
But it seems the nature of ReachingForTheStars is highly different from GemBird's lol
Which means we are not gonna understand each other (and also our intentions)

If you still think I was insulting, I'm afraid there's nothing I can do to change that.
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Only to practice what I tend to implicitly preach lol ~ I'll give you the answer you are asking for.
Even if it makes me a very, very, very baaaaaaad person (also insulting) to your eyes.

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Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars:
What if the OP was indeed insulted by what you wrote? Would you acknowledge it and apologize, or would you defend your good intentions? Does it matter? Why or why not?

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• If that person felt insulted, dear Reaching, it's because there's at least a tiny bit of guilt inside.
• If you read this thread again, you'll realize how this little squabble started.
• I don't have to apologize, because there's not malicious there.
• And it doesn't mean that it's a "good intentions" text type.
• Using that logic, if something is not black... then it has to be white. lol I think that would be kind of simplistic.
• I just expressed the experience I've had with some extremely defensive pals here, never mentioned a concrete person.
• Then I said to Spica, 12 letters that don't meant nothing more complex than: ~ "Be kind and don't act like that"

Funnily enough, I wasn't the 1st person that suggested it.
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Nothing more, nothing less.
There's nothing hyper-complex behind that.
• About mentioning vindictive people, logically, it doesn't imply Spica is one. It's just a way to say "I hope you don't repeat the same vicious cycle again and again, one time after another". If you know where you tend to "go wrong", chances to fall into the same trap will decrease.
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~ Taking in count you have spent such time defending Spica, I think you are quite an emotional and also good person ReachingForTheStars.
Hmm... even if we are as different as Black and White, Blue and Red; I think I've enjoyed this little conversation.

Perhaps we'll have the opportunity to exchange some ideas another day.
I'm going to leave this here now, just to end this little issue

~ Until next time.

posted July 26, 2015 11:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Stupid topic and possibly even stupider op.

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Easy to insult others when you don't have anything logical or reasonable to say. Can you tell why I'm stupid? Not that I care, just asking because if you really thought I was stupid then you would explain why.

I don't wanna bother even fighting with you back because your comment is so ******* lame.

posted July 26, 2015 11:23 PM            

Actually, Gem, if my memory isn't failing me, we are a lot alike, astrologically at least. Except for our moons, every planet between you and I are conjunct. We were born days apart. Your AC is conjunct my IC. Idk your moon sign, but I'm going to guess it's somewhere between aquarius and Taurus (I'm gonna go with Aries, but I really have no clue. Pisces? Lol). You're like the first and only person who've suspected me to be emotional! Lol! I find it amusing, and I'm not being sarcastic. I do have a cap moon after all. This wasn't heading to a closed thread.

I would like, in another thread, sometime in the future, get to understand your perspective a little better. ttyl!

posted July 26, 2015 11:35 PM            

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Originally posted by GemBird82:
~ Yes, defensive as you can't possibly imagine would be the best way to describe that placement.

Not the first time that energy has revelead its true colors in this forum. (plenty of times, to be honest) You folks might not remember this guy I'm gonna mention, but dude was born on 12/11/89... oh my, quite an uber-defensive being. NWIH I could have known that specimen was a male, urrgh...
[ but it was funny anyway, I thought He was one (bad) woman scorned lol ! ]
10 thumbs up Aries23

@Spica
~ At least try to be kind enough to heal that lower octave

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( Hope I haven't unleashed quite a bunch of super-ultra vidictive threads/posts about this, ( being a vampire must be really difficult ) )

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You say as if having Mars in Scorpio is a bad placement. Hahaha. If you wanna think I was being defensive, think so. I don't care.

There's a difference between being defensive and clarifying. I didn't like the way everyone were jumping on me. As if I had created those rules in that book. I have every reason to clarify.

Anyways, Mars in Scorpio is a lower octave at all. I am very proud of the placement. Learn some astrology. My Mars is in domicile (in its own house) and it functions perfectly there.

Mars is the warrior planet, the planet of protecting oneself. And it's in its own house in Scorpio, so it expresses itself in the most natural and healthy way, as opposed to Mars in either Taurus, libra or cancer. (No offence to Mars in libra, Taurus or cancer people. I have a bad placement in my chart too and I accept it).

So yes, my Mars energy is strong and I'm proud of it. Mars rules the survival chakra, (red one), it rules sex. Because my Mars is positively placed in my chart, I am happy in that aspect of my life. I'm not the kind of person who is vulnerable to others, I care about myself. A person with strong Mars isn't vulnerable to others. They have self respect and can stand up for themselves.

It's no wonder why some people or society don't like those who can stand up for themselves. Because they're hard to manipulate or to make them do what you want them to do.

So yes, I am very proud of my Mars in Scorpio. And most people don't like my Mars in Scorpio because they cannot manipulate or fool me easily.

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Originally posted by GemBird82:
( Hope I haven't unleashed quite a bunch of super-ultra vidictive threads/posts about this, ( being a vampire must be really difficult ) )

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Omfg. Oh ms. Vampire how you unleashed such ultra vindictive truths about me. I'm shaking. You're gonna make me cry! You're so powerful!

Hahah aww no you didn't. You seem pretty happy about guessing my Mars sign right. Be happy ms. Vampire who can unleash ultra vindictive threads/posts. If calling yourself a "vampire" know it all makes you happy and feel special.

Lmfao.

My five year old's cousin's ultimate dream is to become a vampire growing up. I think he would really like you! His dream of meeting an actual vampire.

posted July 27, 2015 12:15 AM            

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Originally posted by GemBird82:
Hahahaha !

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Who the **** are you to call me a vampire on a thread/post? And wtf is a vampire? You can judge someone by a post? Get a life woman.

"If they get insulted at what I said they must have some sort of guilt in them"

The most bullshīt statement I've ever read.

posted July 27, 2015 02:32 PM            

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Originally posted by UnderworldGlory:
How were you so spot on!?

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posted July 27, 2015 08:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Oh.My.God.

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posted July 27, 2015 09:03 PM            

But for romantic relationships, the most attractive/compatible Sun depends on:

- your ASC/DSC
- Moon sign and aspects
- Sun aspects in your natal chart

For example, the Sun sign corresponding to the house of your Sun is usually a strong attraction.

EDIT: oopsies, the thread is eclipsing a bit hey, no insults, please.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted July 27, 2015 11:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Spica:
Easy to insult others when you don't have anything logical or reasonable to say. Can you tell why I'm stupid? Not that I care, just asking because if you really thought I was stupid then you would explain why.

I don't wanna bother even fighting with you back because your comment is so ******* lame.

Get a life.

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Why are you stupid? Alphabetically or by category? Here, let me just grab my scroll.

Let's start with "calls anyone who references modern astrology in explaining why this does not resonate with them dumb" and just go on down the list.