posted March 07, 2016 08:38 PM            

I was a long haired pot smoking LSD eating,mushroom doing, pot selling hippie lookin cab driver in my early twenties who never gave any thought as to whether I was a liberal or a conservative or a democrat or a republican. I WAS IN FACT one more that the other and did not know it. My appearance(in eyes of others) just like words used to define and or describe did not reveal my core principles.
If I reveal here the events in my life which reflect how I learned that I was more one then the other SOMEONE here will be offended,, and that should not be the case, but still I did not come to Lindaland specifically to discuss what democrat or liberal or conservative mean to me or you and innuendos of such by others should not overtake the thread.
The meanings of liberal and conservative in the states and the various parts of Europe are ponds different , but that Has nothing to do with my interest in what my friends across the pond think about various elements of astrology and even policy in general that affects all of us and how we can better understand that and deal with it using our COMMON use of astrology.
yes yes My sentences are too long so I will stfu AND WAIT for someone to view and COMMENT on the astro here shared.

posted March 07, 2016 08:53 PM            

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posted March 07, 2016 08:59 PM            

I did not say Faith has been helping me but I came here to hunt her down because I have not heard from her,, lol.

WE are somewhere between 59.9% AND 73% done.
I took a whole day off,, don't shoot me. Oh wait I am supposed to be the

posted March 07, 2016 09:03 PM            

Case in point: Gel. Mark Heatring made an open statement about how the Army would defy Trump's Presidential Orders of torturing the families of framed terrorists since it openly violates National and International Law:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/03/07/the-military-is-not-his-palace-guards-retired-three-star-general-says-of-donald-trump/

And then there was the statement made by HP's CEO Meg Whitman who stated that Trump's "promises" are farfetched and that his Economic "plan" would dip the country back into a recession

http://fortune.com/2016/03/04/donald-trump-meg-whitman/

In short, Trump doesn't even knows what the hell he is talking about 90% of the time; He just blurts out random jibjab that the lowest common denominator of the American Population gobbles up since it sounds "decisive" and plays to their "ship em all out of America!" mentality. He really has no set plan for the Economy or any coherent direction as to how he is going to fix issues related to National Security or International effort to combat Terrorism.

posted March 07, 2016 09:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I did his chart, if you want to see it, S.

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If I care to see what Ami,,who s chart, you lost me!!\
see what where, of course, you have my email address, use IT, or a link here to where

posted March 07, 2016 09:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Seimei:
Apparently Xodian You failed to read all comment or ignored and are disrespecting all efforts to steer this thread back towards the astrology of Trump etc,.not whether anyone here agrees with what u just said or respects your right to say it,HERE.

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Oops! Apologies. Looks like I jumped the gun and decided to pull a "Trump" on the masses by being oh so "decisive" with my little rant there .

Its hard not to talk about politics when the person in question is a political candidate and is actively campaigning for a shot at becoming the next president.

But I digress, it still doesn't excuses my rant and for that I apologize.

*Slips out of thread.*

posted March 07, 2016 09:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Xodian:
OIts hard not to talk about politics when the person in question is a political candidate and is actively campaigning for a shot at becoming the next president.

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Yeah I getcha , but I started this morass and it has been discovered that if it gets too far away from astrology it may go wild AND I really started this thread with hopes it would go ATW and not be closed because people get nasty.
In other words please lace all of your political content with some in depth astrological understanding or the thread pays with its' life.

posted March 07, 2016 09:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Seimei:

yes yes My sentences are too long so I will stfu AND WAIT for someone to view and COMMENT on the astro here shared.

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Originally posted by Seimei:
During the last debate Mr. Rubio attacked Mr. Trump in the area of spray on skin-tone
So I looked and the Helio node 32726 Chromios in 1946 exactly with the node Venus and aphelia of Mercury.
Astrologically, Chromios seems to indicate color, being colorful, standing out, being a "character." Chromos is Greek for "color."

So we all know Mr. Trump is a colorful person.

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That is funny.

Well I'm working hard at the project (don't shoot me) but you know, couldn't resist one peek at Trump's chart...

Here he's got NEVERLAND at 7 Cancer conjunct 8 Cancer Mercury.

His draconic Neverland at 16 Aries conjunct Neverland's Helio North Node at 15 Aries.
Natal DONALD DUCK at 17 Aries, square Lucifer at 17 Cancer, just sayin.

WHITE conjunct ABUNDANTIA at 5-6 Taurus, conjunct his draconic Venus at 4.56 Taurus. Racist? Preferential maybe?

posted March 07, 2016 10:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I don't even have a television, don't read the newspaper, and really have no clue about current politics.

It amazes me how easily political discussions can turn people against each other.

"Oh you're a Republican? Well sorry, I cannot like you any more!"

Spiritual emptiness. People have to move beyond this

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Well said.

posted March 07, 2016 11:22 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
how easily people label others as racist if candidate has political views they don't support

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This may be true in some case, but not Trump.

I'm very slow to call a politician racist, and if I do then there will be reasons for it. In the case of Trump, it's his lumping racial groups as one entity, to make it sound conspiratorial (as if Mexico was intentionally sending rapists to the US, pretty standard racist drivel, which ignores a lot, both the good and also the reasons in both the US and Mexico combined that have led to the bad over here--it's not being against illegals, either, especially if they want to reform the process so it's not so Byzantine, but referencing illegals as "rapists" and other scum who were intentionally sent to weaken America that's racist).

Refusing to condemn the people who beat up homeless minorities in his name is also another major red flag with siren than he's a racist. Giving the pat answers of "never condoning violence" while refusing to condemn those who did and instead called them "passionate" in making America great again is a very disturbing incident, and a damn good reason to call him racist. At the very least he could've "clarified" his message then, but he did not which implies his racist message is clear enough.

And saying he has very good black (and other) friends without naming them is also a common tactic of racists.

He also said he wouldn't get much Republican Jewish support as he didn't take campaign donations (while also calling Jews schemers) which implies that Jews do.

I could look up more if I felt inclined, including some racist book he used to keep by his bedside (even if he said he "never read it" which I find as believable as Bill Clinton "never inhaling").

If you want to debate whether Trump is racist, or simply appealing to the baser elements of American society who are ("telling it like it is" as far as the racists see it, and thus the support he gains from white supremacist groups that he also refused to condemned, at least without being backed into a corner, and this despite how often he flip flops) is one thing, but don't pretend as if there's simply no reason to call him racist other than we find his other political views appalling enough.

posted March 08, 2016 12:27 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I'm sorry that this isn't about astrology, but I'm tired of seeing this promoted:

This may be true in some case, but not Trump.

I'm very slow to call a politician racist, and if I do then there will be reasons for it. In the case of Trump, it's his lumping racial groups as one entity, to make it sound conspiratorial (as if Mexico was intentionally sending rapists to the US, pretty standard racist drivel, which ignores a lot, both the good and also the reasons in both the US and Mexico combined that have led to the bad over here--it's not being against illegals, either, especially if they want to reform the process so it's not so Byzantine, but referencing illegals as "rapists" and other scum who were intentionally sent to weaken America that's racist).

Refusing to condemn the people who beat up homeless minorities in his name is also another major red flag with siren than he's a racist. Giving the pat answers of "never condoning violence" while refusing to condemn those who did and instead called them "passionate" in making America great again is a very disturbing incident, and a damn good reason to call him racist. At the very least he could've "clarified" his message then, but he did not which implies his racist message is clear enough.

And saying he has very good black (and other) friends without naming them is also a common tactic of racists.

He also said he wouldn't get much Republican Jewish support as he didn't take campaign donations (while also calling Jews schemers) which implies that Jews do.

I could look up more if I felt inclined, including some racist book he used to keep by his bedside (even if he said he "never read it" which I find as believable as Bill Clinton "never inhaling").

If you want to debate whether Trump is racist, or simply appealing to the baser elements of American society who are ("telling it like it is" as far as the racists see it, and thus the support he gains from white supremacist groups that he also refused to condemned, at least without being backed into a corner, and this despite how often he flip flops) is one thing, but don't pretend as if there's simply no reason to call him racist other than we find his other political views appalling enough.

Trump belongs on Jerry Springer, not in the White House.

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PJ,
I absolutely defend you right to point out these things, even to call him a racist if you wish and to take on the statements of others.
I ALSO want to state that having the right to do a thing does not make it the right thing to do or this the right PLACE to do it..

EVERYONE please at least try not to have my thread locked UP until after the election.

posted March 08, 2016 12:32 AM            

Republicans are constantly been accused of racism, it gets old and tiring yet the kkk history is intertwined with the Democratic party. He does not think all Mexicans are rapists. He is referring specifically to issues with the border, illegal immigration and how it affects us, you have to pay attention to the context he says the things he says.

Also a lot of white supremecist donate to many Republican candidates not just Donald and none of them seek out donations from them, further Trump has denounced white supremecists. Anyone can endorse anyone, is not fair for that to reflect upon the candidate. This is a highly reused attack tactic, recycled for many candidates, it's sad and unfair. If anyone's past should be looked at critically for support of white supremecist one should look at the history of the Democratic party and
it's relationship to the KKK.

posted March 08, 2016 12:41 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I'm sorry that this isn't about astrology, but I'm tired of seeing this promoted:

This may be true in some case, but not Trump.

I'm very slow to call a politician racist, and if I do then there will be reasons for it. In the case of Trump, it's his lumping racial groups as one entity, to make it sound conspiratorial (as if Mexico was intentionally sending rapists to the US, pretty standard racist drivel, which ignores a lot, both the good and also the reasons in both the US and Mexico combined that have led to the bad over here--it's not being against illegals, either, especially if they want to reform the process so it's not so Byzantine, but referencing illegals as "rapists" and other scum who were intentionally sent to weaken America that's racist).

Refusing to condemn the people who beat up homeless minorities in his name is also another major red flag with siren than he's a racist. Giving the pat answers of "never condoning violence" while refusing to condemn those who did and instead called them "passionate" in making America great again is a very disturbing incident, and a damn good reason to call him racist. At the very least he could've "clarified" his message then, but he did not which implies his racist message is clear enough.

And saying he has very good black (and other) friends without naming them is also a common tactic of racists.

He also said he wouldn't get much Republican Jewish support as he didn't take campaign donations (while also calling Jews schemers) which implies that Jews do.

I could look up more if I felt inclined, including some racist book he used to keep by his bedside (even if he said he "never read it" which I find as believable as Bill Clinton "never inhaling").

If you want to debate whether Trump is racist, or simply appealing to the baser elements of American society who are ("telling it like it is" as far as the racists see it, and thus the support he gains from white supremacist groups that he also refused to condemned, at least without being backed into a corner, and this despite how often he flip flops) is one thing, but don't pretend as if there's simply no reason to call him racist other than we find his other political views appalling enough.

Trump belongs on Jerry Springer, not in the White House.

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I'm Asian, and I forget White, Black, Asian, Irish, Middle Eastern names all the time. I'm just forgetful, LMAO.

Your other reasons are pretty well laid out though.

As for Trump's luck, Jupiter is going into Libra soon, trining his Sun in Gemini! I'm not voting Trump even though I'm a Republican.

posted March 08, 2016 12:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Seimei:
PJ,
I absolutely defend you right to point out these things, even to call him a racist if you wish and to take on the statements of others.
I ALSO want to state that having the right to do a thing does not make it the right thing to do or this the right PLACE to do it..

EVERYONE please at least try not to have my thread locked UP until after the election.

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posted March 08, 2016 12:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Seimei:
It is true that he was referring to the country being raped.
Again , both of You,, PJ AND Hypatia,,
go start a a thread and argue 'til your blood boils out your noses if you cannot add some astrology to your post.
No ,not really but gee

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posted March 08, 2016 12:57 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Semei my apologies is hard to keep it strictly astrological. I will reframe from talking about him unless I have astrological input to give.

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Well Trump has Mercury square Neptune so it's fitting that people get different impressions about the things he is saying.

We have to go over what he's said in order to really STUDY that Mercury square Neptune of course.

It's all under the umbrella of learning astrology; even if a point is being made without astrological commentary it could inspire another astrologer to find an interesting corollary.

posted March 08, 2016 01:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I'm TOTALLY coming down the homestretch on this work, too...be done "N" by tomorrow.

'Night everyone

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posted March 08, 2016 01:22 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Seimei:
[b]It is true that he was referring to the country being raped.
Again , both of You,, PJ AND Hypatia,,
go start a a thread and argue 'til your blood boils out your noses if you cannot add some astrology to your post.
No ,not really but gee

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Transit Saturn will be conjuncting his moon and transit Jupiter squaring his moon. I wonder how that would affect his we elections and campaigning? [/B][/QUOTE]

I thought it was obvious that you weren't arguing.

I noticed that Saturn would soon conjoin his Moon, unless it turns retrograde first... then it will be a while. Uranus will be in his 9th house, from the looks of it, when it enters Taurus. That worries me... Jupiter in his 2nd, possibly boosting his ego. Uranus in the 9th - messing around in world affairs? I don't know. He may find himself "schooled" on what it really takes to be President.

I think Uranus is now trine his Moon.

posted March 08, 2016 01:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Well he has Mercury square Neptune so it's fitting that people get different impressions about the things he is saying.

We have to go over what he's said in order to really STUDY that Mercury square Neptune of course.

It's all under the umbrella of learning astrology; even if a point is being made without astrological commentary it could inspire another astrologer to find an interesting corollary.

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I have mercury square Neptune too but widely by 9d and is part of a tsquare with my moon and I have a lot of sag influence.

But my mercury squares my nodes and I have mer in Gemini so I work hard to try to be clear and not misunderstood but that is bc is part of my nodal journey, I doubt Donald has mercury squaring his nodes.

I see your point though and yes it can lead to misunderstandings that square to Neptune clouding communication, good catch

What a sucky aspect, it really can be condusive to misunderstandings and perhaps to laziness at times in communicating so leading to saying something without thinking it through enough and it coming out in a way that does not fit your intentions.