posted August 29, 2015 08:30 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I found another one:

VALENTINE in LEO @18d44
ANGEL in LEO @0d34
EROS in LEO @1d34

I have a VIGINTILE between VALENTINE and ANGEL @0d10 in the 8th.

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posted August 29, 2015 08:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
My sun's a little over 19 degrees from Mercury if my rectification is correct.

Not sure what I can say, the orb may be too wide...I don't presume to see higher worlds...but I've known some weird things.

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19/17 are ok!
I like the Sun/Merc...I would think anything involving Merc with this aspect could potentially make it easier for you to consciously comprehend higher/different worlds.

posted August 29, 2015 08:34 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Gabby you should should start a VIGINTILE thread on Interpersonal!

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posted August 29, 2015 08:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Agreed it would be a good aspect for that, definitely a healer aspect or potentially could find healing through healing others. ESP in libra, the giving and helping others could have a balancing effect allowing personal healing and growth also.

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Beautiful interpretation Gabby! and right on.

posted August 29, 2015 08:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
That's a very pretty aspect, ESP in leo!

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Falling deeply in love and forming unbreakable bonds (valentine in the 8th) opens doors to higher realms via surrendering self through the art of erotic love (angel-eros in the 8th)???

LOL, high five! I just came up with that interpretation.

posted August 29, 2015 09:06 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Falling deeply in love and forming unbreakable bonds (valentine in the 8th) opens doors to higher realms via surrendering self through the art of erotic love (angel-eros in the 8th)???

LOL, high five! I just came up with that interpretation.

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posted August 29, 2015 09:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
That's an awesome interpretation! Sounds so romantic and beautiful also....wow!

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haha

posted August 29, 2015 10:02 PM            

The ones I've found in my chart so far are..

Interkosmos+Lumiere(conjunct my Sun-Moon Midpoint and my Draconic Ascendant) Vigintile Saturn
Saturn Vigintile my Descendant..
Venus Viginitle my Descendant... Making Saturn and Venus decile..

posted August 29, 2015 10:04 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I think that is a great aspect to become a therapist and healer! Think about it..

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My main method of healing myself and others is through music/sound/frequencies/vibration. Initially I played my songs for select individuals (mentor, friends, peers/associates, people who habitually listen to/study music, etc.), one at a time, in order to receive feedback. I received strictly good feedback (more like praise), but I realized it had a profound effect on these people. Through a combination of observing them/their reactions, and my 1st house Moon being able to detect what they were feeling, I noticed it had a spiritual effect on them. I could FEEL the chills running up their cerebrospinal system, the overwhelming, sensory-informational pleasure coursing through their brains, and when they opened their eyes I would see a momentary spark in them (one that was previously not there), as if they had just returned from some higher plane of existence. One of these individuals displayed rapid eye movement (closed eyes) at some of the key moments in my songs: at a climax, or a smooth, dynamic transition within the composition.

That same person told me I'm "sitting on a gold mine", but I really have no interest in material gains. Sure, money would be nice, as it would allow me to finance my larger plans to help others, but I have no attachment to anything in the material world, and no desire to accumulate external "power" (real power is internal). I just want to heal, guide, and enlighten; to be one of the many people who have discovered their higher purpose, and are currently playing their parts to usher in the new age.

The interesting thing is that I never force myself to create/compose. As is the case with the rest of my life, I just feeeeel my way through it (which nearly always places me in the right place at the right time). When it feels right I go into this meditative state and channel "dormant" music that already exists.. somewhere.. I don't know if it exists in some.. other realm.. or if it is a reflection of the collective consciousness. All I know is that it doesn't originate from my being or any of the experiences I've had in this life.

Ah.. this is futile--I'm trying to explain the ineffable

It needs to be experienced to truly understand.

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Agreed it would be a good aspect for that, definitely a healer aspect or potentially could find healing through healing others. ESP in libra, the giving and helping others could have a balancing effect allowing personal healing and growth also.

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posted August 29, 2015 10:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Free Leon:
Spot on. For me, there is no better feeling than sustaining a note that was played at the right time, and seeing the bliss on a person's face. Mutual healing.

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posted August 29, 2015 10:28 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
haha

I knew your IC-EROS-VALENTINE would like it

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Yes it does!!

posted August 29, 2015 10:54 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
Sun-Mercury
Vertex-Pluto
Juno-Dsc
Eros/Psyche-Kleopatra

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posted August 29, 2015 11:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
That's makes perfect sense to since it's in your 7th house. The relationship, seeing the bliss on another face would be healing to you because you use that energy and focus it in/on your relationships. That's such a giving way to nurture others and then yourself also at the same time. Beautiful aspect..it blesses everyone.

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It is beautiful, but this aspect used to be a burden. I'm a magnet for people who are going through dark times in their lives, and there was no limit to the amount of time/energy I would invest in order to help them. Yes, helping others is therapeutic for me, but these people that are drawn to me usually have massive potential (if realized, they can go on to help others), so preventing them from self-destruction is even more incentive to help them. The downside is that I can lose myself through giving too much; not just time/energy, but my own vitality serves as life support for these people. When all is done I am left drained. Fortunately my chart is Fire heavy..

Chiron in the 7th: You have an enormous potential to express the collective unconscious, yet there may be confusion about who you are. You act as a mirror for the self-image of others. Your initiatory path is through relationship, as this is how you find yourself. You have a potent effect on others, and as you become aware of your effect on others, you will be able to release your gift. The key to your path is the realization that others reflect and respond to the way you see yourself. You may experience serious relationship dilemmas in your life, this is where your work, your challenge and your learning are happening. Union is the goal for seventh house, and it comes through the realization that "I am you and you are me". There is a paradox in your purpose, as balance between self and other must be achieved to complete your Chironic healing and give your gift.
http://members.wizzards.net/~magyan/chiron.htm

This is where Pallas (patroness of the arts, upholder of justice, goddess of wisdom/intelligence, healer) comes into play. I can invest my time/energy into music, and produce healing potions of sound that I can offer to others, thus helping more people than I could through one-on-one interaction, while simultaneously preserving myself.

Pallas in 7th: Your wisdom and creativity may take the form of interpersonal counseling, or in some way improving interpersonal relations. Though you counsel balance, you may find yourself having to choose between intimacy and creativity, and the latter generally wins. So you may keep relationships at the level of friendships rather than making a life commitment.
http://members.wizzards.net/~magyan/asteroids.htm

Of course, I still have/make close relationships/friendships (Chiron in 7th opposite Juno/Moon in 1st makes relationships crucial to my identity/well-being), I'm just very selective with who I help (Saturn conjunct SN/Juno/Moon)... they need to be a person with massive potential to help others.

posted August 29, 2015 11:20 PM            

Your whole post about healing through music was amazing, and great to see. I hope more people in your generation turn out a lot like you.

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Originally posted by Free Leon:
Spot on. For me, there is no better feeling than sustaining a note that was played at the right time, and seeing the bliss on a person's face. Mutual healing.

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I was watching a video about this around the same time you were posting...

Andreas Scholl on Beauty and Truth in Music

posted August 29, 2015 11:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Free Leon:
It is beautiful, but this aspect used to be a burden. I'm a magnet for people who are going through dark times in their lives, and there was no limit to the amount of time/energy I would invest in order to help them. Yes, helping others is therapeutic for me, but these people that are drawn to me usually have massive potential (if realized, they can go on to help others), so preventing them from self-destruction is even more incentive to help them. The downside is that I can lose myself through giving too much; not just time/energy, but my own vitality serves as life support for these people. When all is done I am left drained. Fortunately my chart is Fire heavy..

Chiron in the 7th: You have an enormous potential to express the collective unconscious, yet there may be confusion about who you are. You act as a mirror for the self-image of others. Your initiatory path is through relationship, as this is how you find yourself. You have a potent effect on others, and as you become aware of your effect on others, you will be able to release your gift. The key to your path is the realization that others reflect and respond to the way you see yourself. You may experience serious relationship dilemmas in your life, this is where your work, your challenge and your learning are happening. Union is the goal for seventh house, and it comes through the realization that "I am you and you are me". There is a paradox in your purpose, as balance between self and other must be achieved to complete your Chironic healing and give your gift.
http://members.wizzards.net/~magyan/chiron.htm

This is where Pallas (patroness of the arts, upholder of justice, goddess of wisdom/intelligence, healer) comes into play. I can invest my time/energy into music, and produce healing potions of sound that I can offer to others, thus helping more people than I could through one-on-one interaction, while simultaneously preserving myself.

Pallas in 7th: Your wisdom and creativity may take the form of interpersonal counseling, or in some way improving interpersonal relations. Though you counsel balance, you may find yourself having to choose between intimacy and creativity, and the latter generally wins. So you may keep relationships at the level of friendships rather than making a life commitment.
http://members.wizzards.net/~magyan/asteroids.htm

Of course, I still have/make close relationships/friendships (Chiron in 7th opposite Juno/Moon in 1st makes relationships crucial to my identity/well-being), I'm just very selective with who I help (Saturn conjunct SN/Juno/Moon)... they need to be a person with massive potential to help others.

As I wrote that last sentence I realized.. it seems as though the people I have helped/am supposed to help are past-life acquaintances.. I can ask just about anything of these people and they'd be totally willing to help. I feel as though, ultimately, I am supposed to assemble a group of these powerful individuals that I have helped, and together we serve as a force for good. Sounds like a fantasy, but every day it becomes more and more of a reality

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posted August 30, 2015 12:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Free Leon:

This is where Pallas (patroness of the arts, upholder of justice, goddess of wisdom/intelligence, healer) comes into play. I can invest my time/energy into music, and produce healing potions of sound that I can offer to others, thus helping more people than I could through one-on-one interaction, while simultaneously preserving myself.

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Perfect solution. I personally find some music transcends me to another dimension. Your description earlier of how you use music to help others heal and the process by which you acquire that inspiration was beautiful and not futile. Do you have a soundcloud username or page were you share your music, I would love to check it out and introduce it to some of my clients that I feel could benefit from it. I value music therapy, what do you think of 432hz? Do you feel that it has a healing effect?

Here is an example of music that has that effect of teleporting me to another dimension: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDyDKzpWBY0

posted August 30, 2015 12:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
It's so refreshing to know there are ppl from your generation that are so insightful and thoughtful. You know yourself very well, that's inspiring to me! Thank you
I also have Chiron in 7th, but it's opposed Venus. Venus is my chart ruler.
So much of what you said has been the realizations I've had to come to also. We must protect ourselves even though it's not our natural instinct. Our instinct is to trust and give, give, give. We know that love is healing so we just want to give love away to everyone.
Im glad your seeing the need to protect yourself, your so much further along than I was at your age! Bravo!! 😊

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posted August 30, 2015 07:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Venus/Eros...nice!!

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posted August 30, 2015 08:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
@FreeLeon

Your whole post about healing through music was amazing, and great to see. I hope more people in your generation turn out a lot like you.

I was watching a video about this around the same time you were posting...

Andreas Scholl on Beauty and Truth in Music

You reminded me of him. Funny coincidence.

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Thank you, Faith

I believe my generation can turn it around; many people are just in deep pain ..they need compassion and understanding to heal (mainly in the form of music... "where words (and gestures) fail, music speaks"); they need to be inspired to summon their inner saviors and develop their internal sources of power, rather than resorting to escapism and succumbing to duality consciousness.

Humanity's suffering is my suffering, but in that vast sea of suffering I can isolate the densest pocket of a specific pain (the kind that leads to destructive behavior/the kind that I intend to alleviate first) and note that its coming from the Pluto in Scorpio generation and the Pluto in Sagittarius group from late 1995 to 2002--the rest are still too young, but their fate is no different, unless a fundamental change is made in all areas of life, both at the individual and collective level.

And I believe there are no coincidences. I used to arrogantly dismiss others when they would say everything happens for a reason, but, ever since Uranus began transiting my 1st house in April 2011, nearly everyday I am bombarded with insights/partake in excursions into the nature of time/reality. I have dreams that accurately predict events that happen to others, or people that I haven't seen in years appear in my dreams then I run into them the next day! I've mentioned this on another post:

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Originally posted by Free Leon:
During the summer of 2011 (14 years old) I had six dreams that 100% accurately predicted situations that I would experience the next day. These were not five second moments of deja vu, but entire MINUTES when everything that happened I had dreamt of the night before. On one of those six occasions I was having a conversation with a couple friends when the experience began midway through. I subsequently interrupted my friend, finished his story (which took me around 45 seconds), and left both of them very disturbed (which is exactly how it played out in my dream, and begs the question: What would have happened if I just kept my mouth shut? Would the universe collapsed in on itself? *joking*). Needless to say my own perception of reality was profoundly shaken each time. I honestly thought I was dead, which led me to entertain the thought of committing suicide. I thought I was either dead, or in a coma, and through suicide I would "wake up". That might sound stupid to others, but if they experienced what I had, they wouldn't think so. After the sixth time that happened I made a conscious decision/effort to suppress/prevent whatever it was that allowed me to dream of future events, and I've successfully done so (I'll probably lift that self-imposed barrier someday, but now is not the time). Those experiences, in addition to numerous others I've had since then, have led me to believe that there are infinite possibilities that are simultaneously happening, but we are only aware of a single outcome i.e. the universe/reality as we know it.

The thoughts of *every conscious-being influences reality. Creation is not separate from creator. We are all "gods", co-creators of this reality we share.
"I am you, and you are me."
"The one contains the many, and the many contain the one."
"As within, so without."
"As above, so below."
Every thought we have permeates throughout this *universe.

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Ever since I wrote this I've gradually lifted that self-imposed barrier, and sure enough, these dreams have returned. I haven't completely opened the flood gates, but I'll get there.

Also, thank you for sharing that video. He speaks about many of the concepts/themes that I highly value when it comes to music. I emphasize the importance of harmonizing/balancing the faculties of the left and right brain hemispheres. In our left-brain dominated western societies many of our artists tend to lose their creative abilities--they let the spark die. Creativity/imagination/innovation are as important as technique/structure/order. It disheartens me when I walk into a music school and cannot feel the life

posted August 30, 2015 08:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
It's so refreshing to know there are ppl from your generation that are so insightful and thoughtful. You know yourself very well, that's inspiring to me! Thank you
I also have Chiron in 7th, but it's opposed Venus. Venus is my chart ruler.
So much of what you said has been the realizations I've had to come to also. We must protect ourselves even though it's not our natural instinct. Our instinct is to trust and give, give, give. We know that love is healing so we just want to give love away to everyone.
Im glad your seeing the need to protect yourself, your so much further along than I was at your age! Bravo!! 😊

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You, Faith, and hypatia283 are among my favorite people on this forum, just saying

And yes, absolutely. Early on I was forced to develop a very scrutinizing perception as a result of broken trust, and, on a couple occasions, betrayal. Despite these wrongdoings I won't ever give up on love. I don't view love as most humans do; rather more so in a universal sense. All universal creations are born from acts of love--it is the fuel for the universe's engine. And as an artist/creator it would mean spiritual death if I gave up on love

Obviously I don't know you that well, but, from the first few posts of yours I ever read, I could tell that you're a genuinely good person

posted August 30, 2015 08:30 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Perfect solution. I personally find some music transcends me to another dimension. Your description earlier of how you use music to help others heal and the process by which you acquire that inspiration was beautiful and not futile. Do you have a soundcloud username or page were you share your music, I would love to check it out and introduce it to some of my clients that I feel could benefit from it. I value music therapy, what do you think of 432hz? Do you feel that it has a healing effect?

Here is an example of music that has that effect of teleporting me to another dimension: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDyDKzpWBY0

I feel my Jupiter-Uranus vigintile Morpheus-AC with Morpheus-AC conjuncting as well my NEPTUNE in the 1st and all that squaring my sun and moon forming a tsquare with neptune at the apex is perhaps why some music makes me feel like I am transcending to another world so I do get what you mean but I don't have your talent of creating that for others but can imagine how amazing it must feel none the less for you and them.

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Yes. The right music can do that, however, what is right is subjective/will vary, of course. In my opinion, the music is right if it is able to heal/fulfill the person.. and helps them transcend their perception of reality

Before I ever made the connection that made me realize music is the path to follow in this life, I would always listen to music. Large portions of my days were filled with various different "genres" of music (I'm not the type to pigeon-hold music--there is only good and bad to my ears, and good encompasses all music that is a product of genuine self-expression, or, in some cases, divine inspiration). Through that vast variety of music I would explore the spectrums of polarities, such as good/evil, beauty/horror, calm/disturbed, bizarre/familiar, old/new, light/darkness, vain/enlightened, and so on. The music would paint pictures in my mind; I could see and feel what the artists were conveying through their use of sound, and as a result my perception of reality was broadened more and more.

I do have a soundcloud, but I'm not willing to share it anymore. The main song that I have uploaded is one that I created for my senior project a bit over a year ago. The judges were impressed/moved/enjoyed it, but I've drastically evolved since then. Right when I graduated high school Uranus began to align with my natal Moon in 1st house and Jupiter transited into my 5th house. I wasn't into astrology at the time, but sure enough, I felt compelled to embark on a spiritual songwriting journey. During the summer of 2014 I composed the bulk (7 songs) of my current repertoire, and over the course of Jupiter's transit through my 5th house I created 12 original/unique compositions, although I tend to look at them as 1 composition, because they flow perfectly and tell a story (musically, not lyrically).

I won't release this music until 2018, because:

1.) Jupiter transits 6th, Saturn 9th--I want to *learn audio production from THE mentor (the right one) so that I can be independent of record labels, and ultimately bring them down/establish an industry that is not driven by shallow, petty, mundane interests that subsequently diminish the quality of the art/music/medicine. I want to provide nurturing environments for genuine artists who aim to heal others.

2.) Jupiter transits 7th, Saturn 9th--I'm going to assemble a group of musicians from different countries. I know, I was thinking the same thing, "How are you going to do that?", well just recently my cousin became a flight attendant, and she said she'll be able to get me free international flight tickets (the universe is looking out for me ). I even have specific birth dates/locations for the ideal musicians I want ..I'll find them.

3.) October-December 2017, Jupiter in 7th conjuncts natal Pallas, Saturn approaching Midheaven--begin recording the album.

4.) 2018 (won't disclose the exact date), Saturn in 10th conjunct natal Jupiter, and Mars conjunct Midheaven--release the album

Its all about pulling the trigger at the right time so that it has the greatest impact. Currently there are too many distractions in the world, and, it kills me to say this, because it doesn't reflect how I view my creations/it makes me sound arrogant, but the world isn't ready.. I just sense it. Its not a subjective opinion; it is one of many objective feelings (those of others/the collective) that I'm constantly saturated in. Also, I'm the most self-critical person I know. I would have never committed to this path if it hadn't been for the genuine feedback I received from others. It is not hollow arrogance; it is justified confidence.. ah, even saying that irks me.

Yes, I researched concert pitch A = 432 Hz/Pythagorean tuning for a couple days in November 2014, changed my guitar's tuning, then continued (obsessively) researching it over the next few months. I think all musical instruments should be tuned to A = 432 Hz, by law. It is the only way music can provide its molecular healing effects. Any alternative tunings create disharmony/chaos within the individual, and subsequently the collective. The difference? Music in Pythagorean tuning resonates harmoniously with the cells of the body (and probably beyond the molecular level i.e. String Theory), whereas other tunings do not--if anything, they probably have adverse effects, unbeknownst to the listener. Sounds/vibrations/frequencies possess the propensity to change the molecular structure of a space, as it is demonstrated here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moz82i89JAw

I had already begun listening to less music in an effort to isolate my creative process/free it of external influence while I was composing my music, but I completely stopped listening to music after I researched Pythagorean tuning. I've only just recently begun listening to music again, all mixes in 432 tuning.

links:
1.) http://vaczy.dk/htm/scales2.htm
2.) http://www.echad.se
3.) https://1320frequencyshift.wordpress.com/2013/07/01/432-hz-lost-chord-and-new-beam/
4.) http://markbrewerharpist.com/blog/2013/02/music-of-the-spheres-a-case-for-a432hz/
5.) http://gaearth.com/sound-as-medicine/a-432/
6.) http://www.voidspace.org.uk/psychology/resonance.shtml

Interesting mathematics:
4 + 3 + 2 = 9

360 + 72 = 432

144 * 3 = 432

432/2 = 216 * 10 = 2160, one astrological age.

2160 * 12 = 25,920, one Platonic Year

25,920/60 (the ancient "soss") = 432
http://www.greatdreams.com/432.htm

posted August 30, 2015 08:36 AM            

Venus-Jupiter, 2 minutes
Venus rules the IC and Jupiter is in the 8th

Mars-Pluto, 26 minutes
Mars rules the MC and Pluto rules the 5th

Vertex-Neptune, 15 minutes

posted August 30, 2015 09:25 AM            

I like that my Eros-Apollo is vigi Pluto even though I'm not sure what that means.

Wait, why is my first name in his chart exactly vigi his Sun? And why is it the lucky orb 13 minutes?