posted September 20, 2015 05:47 PM            

I don't really care how they make the rain, what interests me is that someone would make a profession of it. I assume they have prominent water in their charts.

First subject I found is Charles Hatfield: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Hatfield

Long article here: http://www.sandiegohistory.org/journal/70winter/hatfield.htm

Chart:

posted September 20, 2015 06:07 PM            

Please note I don't have his birth time.

posted September 20, 2015 07:49 PM            

After reading the article I'm wondering if the Indian rain chants could be included as these kinds of "rainmakers"?

Hopi-2938
http://entertainmentguide.local.com/description-hopi-rain-dance-1950.html

Hopi (2938)
Navajo (3688)
Apache Point (90022)
Pocahontas (4487) She was from the Powhatan tribe of Virgina.

Americas/South America/Central America Theme
4721-Atahualpa- last sapa inca emperor
2272-Montezuma-Aztec emperor
2275-Cuitlahuac- 10th Aztec Emperor
1915-Quetzalcoatl-a Mesoamerican deity whose name comes from the Nahuatl language and has the meaning of "feathered serpent".
1980- Tezcatlipoca- named for the Toltec god of matter "the smoking mirror" twin of Quetzalcoatl.
944 -Hidalgo- traditional title of persons of the Spanish nobility or gentry.
2738-Viracocha is the great creator god in the pre-Inca and Inca mythology in the Andes region of South America.

Quaoar: Native American deity of creation. The first object in space to bear a Native American name (not counting Hopi and Navajo, which refer to tribes).

157064 Sedona
634 Ute
8275 Inca
26715 South Dakota

695 Bella
Heiltsuk (more commonly known as Bella Bella) is a Wakashan language of the Northwest Coast. Only a few elders in British Columbia still speak the language today, but some young Heiltsuk people are working to keep their ancestral language alive.

posted September 20, 2015 08:47 PM            

That Hopi dance ritual is fascinating...I could almost imagine being immersed in the drama and fully believing in the importance of all the little steps involved, and of course I'd respect the snakes. What an interesting way to live.

I may need your asteroids when I figure out the names of some Native American dancers, dancers who borrowed their techniques, or times when dances took place (successfully.)

My next study is going to be Wilhelm Reich:
http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Wilhelm_Reich

I just need to re-create his chart with some asteroids. At first glance, Uranus on the MC in Scorpio, trine Pisces Mercury, looks promising.

What an interesting character he was! Kind of a Renaissance Man of all things bizarre (for instance he went to jail for selling sex machines reputed to cure cancer.) As for the rainmaking:

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He designed a "cloudbuster," rows of 15-foot aluminium pipes mounted on a mobile platform, connected to cables that were inserted into water. He believed that it could unblock orgone energy in the atmosphere and cause rain. Turner described it as an "orgone box turned inside out."[139]

He conducted dozens of experiments with the cloudbuster, calling his research "Cosmic Orgone Engineering." During a drought in 1953, two farmers in Maine offered to pay him if he could make it rain to save their blueberry crop. Reich used the cloudbuster on the morning of 6 July, and according to Bangor's Daily News – based on an account from an anonymous eyewitness who was probably Peter Reich – rain began to fall that evening. The crop survived, the farmers declared themselves satisfied, and Reich received his fee.

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posted September 20, 2015 09:32 PM            

You WHAT?????

Gabby you are one of the most shocking people I ever met! Pun intended!

posted September 20, 2015 09:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
You...

[b]You WHAT?????

Gabby you are one of the most shocking people I ever met! Pun intended!

I was just sitting here wondering if they actually work or not! Wikipedia makes him sound like a total quack.[/B]

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posted September 20, 2015 10:04 PM            

I'm speechless.

And I feel so horrible about those children dying!

And I don't want you to have to live near tornadoes anymore!

I need to research these generators...

posted September 20, 2015 10:27 PM            

We used to be covered daily with Chemtrails, checkerboard across the sky. We don't hardly ever get them now and if they do spray the cloudbusters breaks them up directly over my house and then from there they all slowly dissipate.

I give the Cloudbusters and Orogone generators a big thumbs up!! 👍👏👍🙏👍

posted September 21, 2015 08:57 AM            

I hope you won't delete it, think of all the people who might see that and decide to take a chance buying these things, and save themselves from destruction!

But...if you do delete, I'll understand....

Just cannot get over how amazing this is!

posted September 24, 2015 10:21 AM            

Or you're complimenting Gabby... ...and she deserves it!!!

posted September 24, 2015 10:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
If you get the chance listen to the recorded video on this page...and read the ppls replies, scary! It's a woman who called Nasa and spoke to a scientist who admitted that they were using releasing chemicals into our atmosphere to better understand the weather patterns...this is from 2013.
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/nasa-admits-chemtrails/

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posted September 24, 2015 10:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I probably won't listen just because I am already fully convinced of chemtrails, but thanks for adding a resource, in case others are on the fence about them.

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posted September 24, 2015 10:57 AM            

Thanks also for helping compile the weather and electrical asteroids...

A list provided by you, Aubyanne, and Ceridwen, from this thread :

2629 RUDRA
2244 TESLA
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5001 EMP
10183 Ampere
16761 Hertz
1798 Watts
15129 Sparks
51772 Sparker
130 Elektra
8306 Shoko
4383 Suruga
3267 Glo
25478 Shrock
19582 Blow
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VULCANO (4464)
OHNO (5180)
FLOOD (4220)
PLUNGE (144742)
HAZARD (9305)
STORM (12182)

And of course my favorite 4227 KAALI.

I should check 16802 RAINER, too...and

posted September 24, 2015 03:16 PM            

Pien (2816) meteorologist, weather forecaster Armand Pien
Thora (299) Norse God of Thunder; weather and crops aka Thor
Perun (4250) Slavic God of Thunder
Taranis (5370) Gaulish God of Thunder, symbolized by the wheel of lightening.
Flood (4220)
Ahti (2826) Finno-Ugric water god

Chaka(1246)?
Chaac (also spelled Chac or, in Classic Mayan, Chaahk [t͡ʃaːhk]) is the name of the Maya rain deity. With his lightning axe, Chaac strikes the clouds and produces thunder and rain. Chaac corresponds to Tlaloc among the Aztecs.

posted September 24, 2015 03:59 PM            

Native American Legends
The Rainmakers
A Sioux Legend

There once was a time when it did not rain for a great many months. The Prairie turned brown from the Sun, and the Great River that nurtured the land began to dry up. The Plants struggled against the dry Earth to breath and grow, while the Animals became weak and could not hunt. All the while the People waited, looking towards the sky and wondering what they had done to bring such misfortune upon themselves. While the People waited, Fear grew. This Fear grew so quickly that in a very short time it began to spread across the entire Prairie, choking out everything and everyone in its path until at last it covered all but one very small place in the Prairie where only the Children and the Old Ones would sit and play together.

When Fear came to the place where the Old Ones and the Children sat playing, it stopped. One of the Children looked up from where it had been playing and asked, "What is this thing that has come to visit us?" "It is Fear," said one of the Old Ones. "Does it want to play?", asked the Children. "Fear has forgotten how to play," said the Old Ones. The Children were very sad to learn that Fear had forgotten how to play. They began to talk amongst themselves about how this could be dealt with. Finally, the Children decided that if they were to have a Great Dance then perhaps Fear could learn how to play again. They went to the Old Ones and asked if the Old Ones would teach them the songs that Children should know if they were going to have a Great Dance with Fear.

Because the Old Ones had once been Children themselves, they knew that it would be impossible to try and talk the Children out of Dancing with Fear. Besides, they were happy to be useful once again, and it was good to sing their songs and hear young voices learning the melodies and words. At some point in all of this teaching, no one is really sure quite when, the Children and the Old Ones began their Dance with Fear.

The sounds of the Singing and the Dancing echoed across the empty Prairie. Soon the Wind carried these songs to the homes of the People. Little by little, the People made their way across the dying land until they came to the place where the Children and the Old Ones were Dancing. When the People arrived, they could not believe what they saw. The Children were Singing and Dancing in a Great Circle and the Old Ones were Singing and Dancing in an even Greater Circle around them and in the center of this Circle they saw Fear. The Children and the Old Ones called out to the People, "Come join us, we are Dancing with Fear!"

One by one the People joined the Great Circle. Soon all of the People were Singing and Dancing. Fear could no longer keep still. As Fear started to Dance, Tears began to pour out of its eyes and laughter began to live in Fear's heart. The Children and the Old Ones and the People all began to Cry along with Fear. The Wind heard all of the Singing and Dancing and Crying and came to see what was happening. Soon the Wind joined the Great Circle and all of them were Singing and Dancing and Crying together. The Wind carried the Singing and Dancing and Crying back out across the Prairie to invite all of the Plants and Animals to come join in the Great Dance with Fear. Soon these Tears were falling down like rain all across the Prairie, filling the Great River and giving Life back to the places where Fear had once walked.

posted September 24, 2015 08:00 PM            

Chills all over....

posted September 24, 2015 08:26 PM            

Hatfield:

FLOOD conjunct Uranus in Leo
PERUN conjunct SN in Libra
STORM conjunct TARANUS in Virgo
WATERMAN at 26 Cancer, near his sun
SPARKER conjunct CLOUD GATE in Cancer

posted September 24, 2015 08:36 PM            

WATERMAN conjunct VENUS exact in Taurus,
BLOW conjunct Cancer MARS, opposing Uranus-Saturn, max orb 2.10

Nothing too sensational. :-/ But then, we don't have the angles.

Both Reich and Hatfield are most likely Sag moons, with ELEKTRA in Sag as well.

posted September 24, 2015 08:42 PM            

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Vincent Joseph Schaefer (July 4, 1906 – July 25, 1993) was an American chemist and meteorologist who developed cloud seeding. On November 13, 1946, while a researcher at the General Electric Research Laboratory, Schaefer modified clouds in the Berkshire Mountains by seeding them with dry ice. While he was self-taught and never completed high school, he was issued 14 patents.

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