posted October 20, 2015 05:09 PM            

but when i look at my result i know straight off the bat that that E is from my gemini ascendant, that NT is in my mercury in the 9th, that J is my capricorn

and just as a whole - i've been an ENTJ for years and i feel like it really suits my cap stellium and virgo mars

but over the last few years i've been progressively less J and a bit more P and as a whole i find my ENTP side i quite strongly associate that with my uranus in capricorn/conjunct mercury/exact sesquid asc. along with my sag descendant

i also think my balance between J and P is almost like my scorpio stellium don't know why

i know a male ENTJ and the poor guy has a scorpio ascendant and pluto in the 1st and when our friends were comparing the two of us they described him as scary intense and myself as a softer and kinder intense. and in private they told me that he's really arrogant where as i'm just chilled out and relaxed, easy going all the time. (yes this cap and scorpio stellium was described as chilled out, easy going and relaxed)

he's also very very open with his methods which is most likely his E being very strong in him and maybe his mercury and mars trine ascendant

where as i prefer to keep my methods to myself and i'm not stupid enough to reveal my methods of manipulation or how i utilize social psychology for my benefit to others. don't know though if that's just because i'm a bit .. maybe mentally older than him or if it's a chart thing

also maybe cause i'm nearly an ENTP ( again 3% more preference for judging) i am more rebellious than him (i think my uranus is strong in me) and more easy going and flexible where he is textbook military like ENTJ. very by the book etc.

so i can't really handle how he likes to micromanage everything. not saying i don't but i've learned that for me i micromanage one aspect of my life which is my main priority also because it allows me to be spontaneous in other things. i also work by systems of priority. so i'm always on top of my studies and my money is sorted but ill be too lazy to ring the power company because id rather do something else with my time like study more or than sit on hold. where he has everything in his life seriously micromanaged and to me its just too too much. but if i have plans and they fall through i get seriously ****** like him.

but anyways!

posted October 20, 2015 05:49 PM              

E- Leo Sun, Moon in 11th, Stellium in 11th, Venus in 7th
N- Pisces rising, Jupiter ruler in 8th
F- although I have Virgo Mercury in 6th, I have many water placement Grand trine mars(4) trine saturn(1) trine Jupiter(8), feeling is stronger
P- Stellium (Uranus) 11th, Moon conjuct Uranus, Pluto in 9th

posted October 20, 2015 07:50 PM              

I - Virgo rising, Pisces moon, Pluto in Virgo in the 1st. I'm quite introverted and socializing tends to drain me, even though my Gem self craves it.

N - lots of Mercury in my chart, lots of air, plus my Pisces moon and Neptune singleton. I usually intuit things (and people!) first, and rather quickly, and then backtrack to look at the reasoning, logic or cause-and-effect.

T - I mentioned lots of Mercury and air, yeah? Despite my strong emotions, I prefer my cerebral side. More orderly, more self-possessed.

posted October 21, 2015 03:00 PM            

Lunar Pisces, I don't think you're an INTP.

posted October 21, 2015 04:13 PM            

It does seem to match me for the most part.

I think it also matches my chart, mostly.

ISFP's are artistic, compassionate, perceptive people-persons who like to work behind the scenes. Makes sense for my 5th house Mars in Pisces, Scorpio ASC & Venus.

posted October 21, 2015 06:00 PM              

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
Oh yeah, that's exactly what we needed, another thread where most people mistype themselves

Lunar Pisces, I don't think you're an INTP.

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And would you care to know what I think you are?

Aunt Anomalia, you can think whatever the **** you want. I'm a INTP. I was into MBTI long before I got into astrology and I've taken the test dozens of times and I've always scored INTP. I seriously could not be anything else. Have you ever spent even a single minute with me in person? NO? THEN STEP BACK. I don't appreciate someone who doesn't know me from Adam gainsaying me or so condescendingly suggesting I don't know myself better than they in their glaring ignorance do.

Just because I'm been open and honest here about a recent romantic issue of mine is not license for others to dimiss my own self-knowledge or micro-aggro me with their self-righteous BS, OK? Please don't respond to me here again. Your "opinion" is not welcomed by me.

posted October 21, 2015 06:51 PM            

I'm new to the forum. I took this test as part of a job on boarding. It's weird because j got ENFJ and ENTJ...in the sense that the F and the T were equal in scores. I agree with the result. I think I'm equally feeling and thinking haha. Idk if this helps but here are my placements:

Asc Gemini
Sun Scorpio
Moon Pisces
Mercury Scorpio
Venus Scorpio
Mars Sagittarius
Jupiter Scorpio
Saturn Aquarius
Uranus Capricorn
Neptune Capricorn
Pluto Scorpio

Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter and Pluto all in my 6th house.

I'm admittedly good with words. I have two sides, I can be talkative and lively. I can network and work a room when I'm in the mood. But then there are times that I need to be alone to brood and think and cry and laugh and daydream (I love to daydream) I'm in touch with my logical and emotional side. I write poetry and draw on my walls every now and then (chalkboard paint on two accent walls in my bedroom), but I'm in the tech industry by trade and I'm pretty damn good at it haha. If I could describe myself I would say that I'm emotionally intense and honest about it. I can talk openly about my emotions, if you hurt me, made me happy, if I love you, if I hate you...and I can look you square in your eyes and explain them in great detail. Don't get me wrong, some things are kept private, but I'm am a very open, honest and intense person. I also hate liars. I've been taken advantage of emotionally and financially in the past. I used to be a real pushover and sucker for a sob story. I've wised up a bit now so that's not much of an issue. I also love to be of service, I like to make other people happy, which is why I used to be a pushover. When I'm at work I'm very attentive, clients love working with me and sometimes will contact me directly or request me specifically to work on their issues. Customers/clients have loved me from when I was 14 working as a cashier (I am amazingly efficient and can move a line like it's nobody's business) up until now working as an engineer. I also can not stand lazy people, but ironically enough I work hard just so that I can have an excuse to be lazy haha. I tell people that all the time. I just hate freeloaders and people who lack ambition. -_- I'm 21, I have my own place pay my own bills have a great career that I love...no kids (not ready) and middle class income. I come from a poor family so I had to work for what I've got. Been working since I was 14...hopefully you can see why I don't like lazy people.

I'm also incredibly impatient. AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Let's see what else... I'm into natural home remedies. I don't like taking pills or anything like that...I like to stay fit, it's not terribly important I'm not a health nut but I'm am serious about my health. I organic fruits and vegetables, brown/wheat breads/flours/sugars etc, eat quinoa etc. I try to cook my own food when I can but not always. I'm also bad with routines. I try to be consistent but most times I'm not. I don't like being told what to do. I have my own side business, and I intend to be financially stable and able to retire by the time I'm 30. I read a lot of bios and autobios about wealthy people and on investing. I invest and have multiple streams of income. I'm not rich by any means, I've only been investing for the past year (I'll be 22 in November) but I'm laying the groundwork. I also love to read and talk about philosophy and psychology. I love to have debates, and I love friendly competition. If a man can beat me in a debate or can hold his own intellectually I'm in loveeeeeee :-) I love smart funny guys haha anyways idk if that's enough info but yeah there ya go. If you have any questions lemme know!

posted October 21, 2015 11:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Lerena:
I don't think astrology and MBTI have any correlation, because there are going to be charts that don't show the person's MBTI type correctly. Plus, relating MBTI to astrology is a bit difficult. How would that work?

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I definitely think they're interrelated - they both seek to explain the unique and individual psychological blueprints of an individual!

For example, I'll use my MBTI type (INTJ) to demonstrate an INTJ's primary functions in order, which are:

Ni - Introverted Intuition. One of two types that use this as their dominate function (they share this with INFJs). "Foreseeing implications, transformations, and likely effects" - sort of like a guiding light in the mind that acts as almost psychic insight. This is the "N" in INTJ. So one can deduce that people with strong "N" in their MBTI type have strong water placements, 12th house placements, 8th house placements, a planet tightly conjunct a node, strong Neptune or Uranus in their chart... etc.

Te - Extraverted Thinking. What Ni does, Te decides to blurt out immediately in order to make sense of the winding and spooky conclusions that intuition was deducing. There's a directness of thought. I'd say this could lead one to implicate strong Mercury in the chart, a well placed 3rd/9th house, strong Aquarius/Gemini/Uranian tendencies, or a prominently displayed 11th house

Fi - Introverted Feeling. This means emotions are low on the radar for this type, completely usurped by intuition and logic-talk. The astrological indicator here.. I'd say there would be strong air placements or planets in air houses. Maybe strong Saturn or, again, the 8th or 12th house. Feelings are certainly present, but they are submerged and difficult to access compared to the reasoning processes. This is a very Virgoan/Capricornian/Sagittarian sort of vibe..

Se - Extraverted Sensing. Experiencing and "sensing" (instead of "intuiting") in the immediate environment is a lower function of this type. This is more of a fire sign/high functioning water sign thing to do, not terribly cerebral or indicative of an air sign/high functioning earth.

posted October 21, 2015 11:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
So I'm an INFJ which does not match my chart at all!
In sidereal it does 😉

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Oh I can see it! Let's see since you're an INFJ you'd also be guided by introverted intuition (Ni)
I could explain that in your chart with the fact you have your Venus loosely conjunct your NN - you seem to have freakishly good insight into the motivations of others on a personal basis (5th house) - not to mention Moon/Jupiter/DSC would only add to that lightning-quick sort of intuition.

Fe (extroverted feeling) - Sagittarius Moon amplified by Jupiter in an air house (the 7th)! Everyone knows exactly where you stand on an issue and you aren't afraid to let them know (as exemplified on this forum ) Plus you have a massive chatty air stellium in Libra (Sun/Mercury/Venus/NN/Chiron) and a Gem ASC on top of that. Your feelings guide you. Everything in your day depends upon how you feel - your motivations come and go like the tides depending on such.

Ti (introverted thinking) - I think this is best exemplified with your tight Chiron/Sun conjunction. There's a tendency to withdraw - to act before one thinks (Sag Moon) because speculating too long on something logically leads to a type of fear paralysis. Even though you have a mostly airy chart, it is an impulsive one, and not one that is dominated by solid, structured, logical thought (a la Virgo)

posted October 21, 2015 11:57 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Oh I can see it! Let's see since you're an INFJ you'd also be guided by introverted intuition (Ni)
I could explain that in your chart with the fact you have your Venus loosely conjunct your NN - you seem to have freakishly good insight into the motivations of others on a personal basis (5th house) - not to mention Moon/Jupiter/DSC would only add to that lightning-quick sort of intuition.

Fe (extroverted feeling) - Sagittarius Moon amplified by Jupiter in an air house (the 7th)! Everyone knows exactly where you stand on an issue and you aren't afraid to let them know (as exemplified on this forum ) Plus you have a massive chatty air stellium in Libra (Sun/Mercury/Venus/NN/Chiron) and a Gem ASC on top of that. Your feelings guide you. Everything in your day depends upon how you feel - your motivations come and go like the tides depending on such.

Ti (introverted thinking) - I think this is best exemplified with your tight Chiron/Sun conjunction. There's a tendency to withdraw - to act before one thinks (Sag Moon) because speculating too long on something logically leads to a type of fear paralysis. Even though you have a mostly airy chart, it is an impulsive one, and not one that is dominated by solid, structured, logical thought (a la Virgo)

Se (Extroverted Sensing) - The weaker function for an INFJ. Focusing on the "here and now" is not a strong suit of the type, it has a tendency to dip into the past and forgo mapping for the future. I think your Pisces Saturn is very much the archetype for this.

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Thank you! That's interesting!!

posted October 22, 2015 09:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Lunar Pisces:
And would you care to know what I think you are?

Aunt Anomalia, you can think whatever the **** you want. I'm a INTP. I was into MBTI long before I got into astrology and I've taken the test dozens of times and I've always scored INTP. I seriously could not be anything else. Have you ever spent even a single minute with me in person? NO? [b]THEN STEP BACK. I don't appreciate someone who doesn't know me from Adam gainsaying me or so condescendingly suggesting I don't know myself better than they in their glaring ignorance do.

Just because I'm been open and honest here about a recent romantic issue of mine is not license for others to dimiss my own self-knowledge or micro-aggro me with their self-righteous BS, OK? Please don't respond to me here again. Your "opinion" is not welcomed by me.

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This is hilarious. Now it's really hard for me to buy your theory. I can't imagine an INTP (at least a healthy one) react to one polite sentence the way you did. If you were an INTP, you'd probably ask why I think so or even provide your list of arguments. You'd care more about getting to the truth than being right.

First of all, tests are of little importance in comparison to studying functions. None of them is perfect. I took a bunch of them too and they didn't point out the type now I believe I am, they were close though. The E/I part is probably the most tricky. For example, being an E type doesn't necessarily equal needing/liking lots human interaction, apply the same rule to I. It's not that unusual for Ne-dominant people to be reclusive or ambiverted. I guess most of them are socially extraverted but absorbing external ideas through books and the net or just lone wandering can be enough. Ideas are the food.

My disagreement had nothing to do with your issue, I didn't even remember your posts at the time and I'm not silly enough to think that strong emotions, heartbreaks and longing is something that never happens to thinkers (I am one so I have first hand experience). Just like being a feeler doesn't mean one is incapable of logical thinking. What caught my attention first is this sentence:

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I usually intuit things (and people!) first, and rather quickly, and then backtrack to look at the reasoning, logic or cause-and-effect.

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Then

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Despite my strong emotions, I prefer my cerebral side. More orderly, more self-possessed.

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Your post smells like a Fi lashout to me but I'd consider all the NF types. I would've suggested ENTP but I'm not so sure atm.

Feel free to ingore my post. I just hope a light bulb lit somewhere in your brain.

posted October 22, 2015 10:35 AM            

But seriously, anyone? :insert sad puppy dog face here:

posted October 22, 2015 10:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
^ I could tell you what I think if you're not afraid of being questioned.

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AA

Sure, be my guest!

posted October 22, 2015 11:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
Judging by what you've written, how you wrote it and your natal, I think you're an ENFJ or ESFJ, more likely the latter.

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I'm not really familiar with the different types in great detail, so I'm not really sure what the ESFJ is. Could I be an ESFJ? Sure, it's not impossible. The first and only time I took the MBTI was as part of a job on boarding process back in April and the results listed were the results I got. It actually classified me as an ENTJ, but where is showed the scores on each section, I scored the same on F and T.. Not sure how it made that distinction considering the tie but hey, whatever haha.

I'm curious, what is an ESFJ? And what about my post makes you think I'm more in tune with that? I'll look it up on my end as well.