posted October 23, 2015 09:26 PM            

Do you have venus at 29 degrees and what is your experience with it? Does it strongly effect your whole chart?

Or do you have an experience dealing with people who have venus at 29 degrees?

posted October 23, 2015 10:14 PM            

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posted October 24, 2015 01:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This degree makes a kind of frozen nature, like a frozen stance. The person finds it hard to move. Each planet has a different nature. With venus, love may be hard. The person may feel very stuck.

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do you mean the person will have hard time to let go in love / hard time to move on from love relationship? even if it is bad?

posted October 24, 2015 09:35 AM            

Hmm. I don't think it has much effect at all, but it's hard to tell, because for instance what Ami said rings true for me but there are so many other factors in my chart that can explain it, that I am skeptical about it being a 29° issue.

posted October 24, 2015 09:54 AM            

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posted October 24, 2015 10:03 AM            

So for example, with Venus you'd be too wishy-washy when it comes to love matters and then just make a decision that seems to come a bit out of nowhere, or is too drastic, etc.

posted October 24, 2015 10:54 AM            

In this case, the person may have to make a decision to work in City A or take a job near his family in City B.

It would be very hard to make decisions in a decisive way, without a lot of feeling stuck. That is the best way I can explain it. Sorry, if it is not clearer.

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posted October 24, 2015 11:55 AM            

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posted October 24, 2015 12:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I remember reading that it has a "stop and go" kind of quality to it, like you don't move when you have to make a decision and then just make a sudden, random move that doesn't always give the best results...

So for example, with Venus you'd be too wishy-washy when it comes to love matters and then just make a decision that seems to come a bit out of nowhere, or is too drastic, etc.

Not sure if that's applicable to every Venus at an anaretic degree though...

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This is completely true but I also have Venus conjunct Uranus. For the first time in my life I'm choosing to work with this and not run away out of fear,rejection or whatever the freak it is.

posted October 24, 2015 12:54 PM            

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posted October 24, 2015 07:29 PM            

In the case of Venus, it means drawing to a close to a way of relating; in Taurus, more fully realizing the steadiness, focus of affections, and fullest appreciation of beauty, of nature, etc.

Endings, completion.

This contrasts with 0-degree placements in which there is emphasis on something new or on a new environment/mode of expression previously unexplored.

All this can really only be understood in the context of reincarnation. Someone without previous lifetimes on earth has nothing to wrap up. Someone with many life times (and much karma) may have quite a lot to wrap up.

posted October 24, 2015 09:48 PM            

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... One that with the abilities untrained, would bring those opposing forces as found in Saturn and the cusps. For in the cusp is seen, with those influences in the Uranian, that these bring those passions or those unruly conditions that may not be subdued by force, but conquered, guided, and led in love. One that when guided aright may make same manifest in many ways, as meted in justice, and as given in literature ...

-- Cayce reading 960-4 given 2 Dec 1927.

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Cayce is talking about the phenomenon of planets appearing in the last two or first two degrees of a sign, and the Uranian analogy of wild choice impulse that needs the direction of appropriate early life training, vocational focus, etc, so as to form a proper context for the choices subconsciously inferred from Saturn's presence in the last degree of Taurus, which had progressed into the first degree of Gemini by the time of this reading.

By the way, Cayce said, "He should be a lawyer", and stated the boy had been in a previous incarnation in the French Revolution, and was:

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... One that is high tempered, yet guided in the correct way and manner, will bring much joy, much happiness, much of better understanding to those that would be found in oppression, and one that would bring release to many ...

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Cayce spoke of cusps often as 'Uranian', characterizing them as if they were wide open choice points in development that needed a steadying influence in the upbringing and training so that such choices could be better informed through reason and guiding ideals. In my view this describes an ending/beginning influence in which the person subconsciously feels the ground is about to be cleared for new experiences, and subconsciously feels the wider open choices available for new opportunities and experiences in soul development. In this boy's case, it appears to have been found in the realm of the law, and of work towards justice.

I will look to see if I can find a similar example involving Venus.

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posted October 25, 2015 09:02 AM            

"Wild choice impulse"? Do you mean the planet's energy is kind of scattered and has a hard time being focused on one single area? And is that the goal, to kind of stabilize it, or maximize its potential?

In that example, did Cayce suggest the boy be a lawyer because Saturn is in the 9H (law) and conjunct the MC (career)?

posted October 25, 2015 12:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
With venus, love may be hard. The person may feel very stuck.

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posted October 25, 2015 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Hmm. Not sure I am able to grasp the concept behind it, it's kind of confusing.

"Wild choice impulse"? Do you mean the planet's energy is kind of scattered and has a hard time being focused on one single area?

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I'm just using that phrase to paraphrase best I can the subconscious sensation of choice between two sign modes of differing polarities, elements, etc. The possibilities of a new arena (Gemini in the above example), against what is familiar (Taurus).

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... And is that the goal, to kind of stabilize it, or maximize its potential?

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Free will must be stabilized or it cannot focus on productive choices.

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In that example, did Cayce suggest the boy be a lawyer because Saturn is in the 9H (law) and conjunct the MC (career)?

Thanks, Kannon.

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Cayce did not explain the astrological basis that I can tell. Remember, 90% of the time he was not speaking to astrologers. So he was not going to get into such nuances.

Because my A.R.E. membership is currently expired, I cannot look into the database to get the whole reading right now. I've only got the fragment published in the book by Margaret Gammon.

"Opposing forces" I take to mean two adjacent signs of differing polarity when a planet is on the cusp. That is the fundamental difference between signs, polarity. Taurus (-), Gemini (+). Then you have the other differences in terms of element, etc.

So it seems Cayce viewed such charts as indicating a lifetime of ending one mode/beginning another as an essential phase of soul development, but that it came with what he termed Uranus-like tendencies for extremes in which a person may feel an urge to leave one mode/expression to go whole hog into the newer, less familiar mode. He used the terms 'choice' and 'Uranian' in reference to the effects of planets in the last couple degrees or first couple degrees of a sign.

I think it is more significant when:

(a) It is a luminary whose apparent disc (1/2 degree width) is actually on the boundary of two signs;
(b) It is a planet that progresses over into the next sign, or back into the previous one, when a person is in their developing years.
(c) When such a planet is in aspect with other planets also at end/beginning of a sign.

So for example, Pluto at 28 Gemini would not be as significant in the above chart as Saturn.

posted October 25, 2015 04:04 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Mostly astrologers state that 29 degrees is an ANARETIC degree.

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I know of few astrologers, if any, who still use this arcane and outdated Greek term for "destroyer." This relates to the idea of endings only, which today does not deserve such a dramatic term.

However, in reference to the last degree of a sign, this term is misapplied, since the term was meant to refer to what degree in a chart made a traditionally 'malefic' aspect to the degree of 'hyleg' (life-giver). Modern astrology does not even use such points or terms.

These terms were used in ancient times when lifespans were far shorter, and the astrologer was consulted partly to determine lifespan so that a (Greek) person would know when to have their business in order for their heirs to be set up in life.

The so-called 'anaretic' degree never specifically referred to the last degree or first degree of a sign. So any astrologer using it in this way is either referring to a particular chart only, or is misapplying the term.

The term is simply out of context culturally today and of no use.

Reference: The Arkana Dictionary of Astrology.

posted October 25, 2015 04:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
"Opposing forces" I take to mean two adjacent signs of differing polarity when a planet is on the cusp. That is the fundamental difference between signs, polarity. Taurus (-), Gemini (+). Then you have the other differences in terms of element, etc.

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Makes sense now, thanks.

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So it seems Cayce viewed such charts as indicating a lifetime of ending one mode/beginning another as an essential phase of soul development, but that it came with what he termed Uranus-like tendencies for extremes in which a person may feel an urge to leave one mode/expression to go whole hog into the newer, less familiar mode. He used the terms 'choice' and 'Uranian' in reference to the effects of planets in the last couple degrees or first couple degrees of a sign.

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Does that imply that we need to leave behind the qualities of the sign in which the planet is placed, and instead embrace the qualities of the next sign? (with 29° placements?) Or is it like a balancing act? Or is it out of our control anyway, and the energies/manifestations are just going to swing back and forth between the two, and have that "erratic" or "Uranian" quality?

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(a) It is a luminary whose apparent disc (1/2 degree width) is actually on the boundary of two signs;

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What do you mean by 'apparent disc'..?
Is that generally on the 29° and 0°?

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(b) It is a planet that progresses over into the next sign, or back into the previous one, when a person is in their developing years.

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Developing years meaning childhood? And you mean when that planet actually changes signs, and doesn't just remain in the same spot for years on end (like Pluto for example?)

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(c) When such a planet is in aspect with other planets also at end/beginning of a sign.

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Would you include 28° and 1° or just 29° and 0°?

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So for example, Pluto at 28 Gemini would not be as significant in the above chart as Saturn.

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Because it moves slower, or/and because it's on the 28th degree (and not 29th)?

Sorry for all the questions, I feel like a mentally challenged student who keeps asking all these annoying questions...

posted October 25, 2015 04:10 PM            

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posted October 25, 2015 05:17 PM            

My bf has this degree, while I thought venus in taurus (like @DouxRêve said) has pretty "fixed" affections, their feelings take time to fade and once they decide to commit to you, they're pretty loyal and steadfast, I do not find him like that AT ALL.

He's changeable in emotions/affections (hot & cold), unfaithful, his fixed nature only to the pleasure not necessary to the person.

My ex has gemini venus (first decan) and I found they are quite similar with some differences like taurus venus is more LAZY.

posted October 25, 2015 09:22 PM            

Never thought a "simple" matter of degrees could create so much... influence. Pretty negative influence in this case, it seems.
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hearttreasure,

Sorry if this is inappropriate to ask, but if your boyfriend is so fickle and unfaithful, why are you still together? :/

((( Astra )))

posted October 26, 2015 10:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:

hearttreasure,

Sorry if this is inappropriate to ask, but if your boyfriend is so fickle and unfaithful, why are you still together? :/

((( Astra )))

Don't lose hope.

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Good question. lol.

It's complicated. He doesn't want a breakup, everytime we broke up, he would come around. He chose to be with me after the painful triangle affair. The only thing he knows how to make the relationship work is he won't agree to breakup no matter how hard we argue/fight and use lots of intimacy. If I don't keep my eyes on him, he will find another women, while I'm not a typical woman who love baby sit a grown-up man.

I was born in fixed mercury, so I have this fix mind and memory, it's hard for me to pretend I don't remember anything and if I could I would cheat so he would leave but it's really not my thang it's like betraying my principal commitment in relationship. So, it's really a struggle being in stuck.

posted October 26, 2015 12:04 PM            

And/or some transits, too.