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Topic: Iconic Black Individual's Rising Signs
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Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 223 From: Michigan, USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 08, 2015 12:14 AM
This is a continuation of the Iconic Black Individual's Sun Signs. Unfortunately, I believe astrology is very white-centric and I would like to showcase some iconic and influential black people, along with their rising signs. Rising sign descriptions are heavily weighted towards white or white-euro-centric qualities so the purpose of this thread is to squash that and to showcase rising sign qualities in black people. You can truly see similarities in looks and maybe I'll post rising sign descriptions for every race. Also, please feel free to name a person with their rising sign and I'll add them to the list!Aries Rising: Sammy Davis Jr. Rihanna Chris Rock Louis Armstrong Shaq Taurus Rising: Martin Luther King JR. Halle Berry Angela Davis Serena Williams Queen Latifah Gemini Rising: Rupaul Morgan Freeman LeBron James Willow Smith Miles Davis Cancer Rising: Tyra Banks Vanessa Williams Michael Jordan Lisa Bonet Marvin Gaye Leo Rising: Tina Turner Will Smith Maya Angelou Muhammad Ali Dorothy Dandridge Beyoncé (*edited* she is indeed a Leo Rising) Virgo Rising: Jay-Z Tiger Woods Usher Donna Summer Blue Ivy Carter (It will be interesting to see how her looks progress as she gets older that's why I included her) Libra Rising (my person sign as well): Denzel Washington Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson Stevie Wonder Raven-Symoné Scorpio Rising: Prince Janet Jackson Diana Ross Aretha Franklin Chuck Berry Sagittarius Rising: Oprah Winfrey Nelson Mandela Jimi Hendrix Bob Marley Alicia Keys Arsenio Hall Capricorn Rising: Naomi Campbell Lenny Kravitz Malcolm X Dennis Rodman Rosa Parks Aquarius Rising: Barack Obama Nicki Minaj Aaliyah Billie Holiday Whoopi Goldberg Pisces Rising: Michael Jackson Whitney Houston Pharrell Williams Herbie Hancock Richard Pryor http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/233321.html The link above is from GeminiYoungster and it also discusses the bias theme. ------------------ Cap Sun Leo Moon Aqua Merc Aqua Venus Cap Mars Leo MC Libra Rising ~~~Blessed Be~~~~ IP: Logged |
Geminiyoungster Knowflake Posts: 390 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted November 08, 2015 07:17 AM
I love, love, this series of threads. I made a thread awhile back about bias behavior behind race in astrology.. And also, Who new beyonce was a Libra rising, like me haha!IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 223 From: Michigan, USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 08, 2015 12:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Geminiyoungster: I love, love, this series of threads. I made a thread awhile back about bias behavior behind race in astrology.. And also, Who new beyonce was a Libra rising, like me haha!
I'm a libra rising too, and I was so happy when I saw Beyonce there. I've noticed the huge bias in race with astrology too, do you have a link to your thread? I want to link it with these ones ------------------ Cap Sun Leo Moon Aqua Merc Aqua Venus Cap Mars Leo MC Libra Rising ~~~Blessed Be~~~~ IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 1863 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 12, 2015 03:21 PM
I thought Beyonce was Leo rising. That was so the last time I checked her chart years ago. @Mergoatsun, are you going solely by Astrotheme in determining ascendant? I see they are using IMDB as a source of information. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 1863 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 12, 2015 03:30 PM
Until I see proof that someone checked Beyonce's birth certificate and confirmed time making her Libra rising, I am going to go with Leo rising for her. Why? The big hair. the "Queen Bee" moniker. The visually odd pairing with Jay Z (7th house Aqua), are more fitting with Leo rising. IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 223 From: Michigan, USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 12, 2015 03:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: I thought Beyonce was Leo rising. That was so the last time I checked her chart years ago. @Mergoatsun, are you going solely by Astrotheme in determining ascendant? I see they are using IMDB as a source of information.
Yes I was using that site. I can see that other sites also say she's a Leo rising. I can totally see that. She does have her Mars in Leo. I think you may be right about this, astrotheme has known to be unreliable before ------------------ Cap Sun Leo Moon Aqua Merc Aqua Venus Cap Mars Leo MC Libra Rising ~~~Blessed Be~~~~ IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 1863 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 12, 2015 04:01 PM
^^ Astrotheme is a great site, but not always reliable when it comes to ascendants.Did y'all see Sammy Davis Jr as Aries Ascendant? I would have never guessed this one. Sometimes, if a sign doesn't seem to fit, I look at the sign before or the one after to see if they fit better. In his case, I think Pisces rising fits better. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 1863 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 12, 2015 04:05 PM
quote: Rising sign descriptions are heavily weighted towards white or white-euro-centric qualities so the purpose of this thread is to squash that and to showcase rising sign qualities in black people. You can truly see similarities in looks and maybe I'll post rising sign descriptions for every race.
Great great potential for learning and honing our skills as astrologers. How do we go about it? Do you see any racial similarity that is not covered with white-euro centric qualities in the people of Aries rising, for instance? IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 223 From: Michigan, USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 12, 2015 07:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: Great great potential for learning and honing our skills as astrologers. How do we go about it? Do you see any racial similarity that is not covered with white-euro centric qualities in the people of Aries rising, for instance?
I agree this has big potential! Might I ask for help with rewording the ascendant descriptions for the signs? It's a big job and one I really would like to do, but I have been very ill lately and I would not be able to put this out in a timely fashion. Personally when I find websites like this http://www.serendipity-astrolovers.com/astrological-signs.html#axzz3rKFPlOxb I get upset and overwhelmed because it's so biased towards anglo-saxon people. Would anyone be willing to help me create a thread with differences of the rising signs? ------------------ Cap Sun Leo Moon Aqua Merc Aqua Venus Cap Mars Leo MC Libra Rising ~~~Blessed Be~~~~ IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 1863 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 12, 2015 07:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by Mergoatsun: I agree this has big potential! Might I ask for help with rewording the ascendant descriptions for the signs? It's a big job and one I really would like to do, but I have been very ill lately and I would not be able to put this out in a timely fashion. Personally when I find websites like this http://www.serendipity-astrolovers.com/astrological-signs.html#axzz3rKFPlOxb I get upset and overwhelmed because it's so biased towards anglo-saxon people. Would anyone be willing to help me create a thread with differences of the rising signs?
This is my first time checking out this particular website, and yes, their descriptions tend to be slanted toward an european ideal. Since western astrology was developed mostly by people of European descent, it makes sense that they would use the people around them to establish the astrological correspondence. I think the information it gives is still very valuable, and we have to learn how to adapt it or how it relates to people of color, and its quite possible the work will have to be done by POC. By the way, we have a very good astrologer here Kannon Mcafee who also has ascendant descriptions on his site, you might want to check it out. He has included non whites in his examples. https://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs-2/ IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 223 From: Michigan, USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 12, 2015 07:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: [/b]
This is my first time checking out this particular website, and yes, their descriptions tend to be slanted toward an european ideal. Since western astrology was developed mostly by people of European descent, it makes sense that they would use the people around them to establish the astrological correspondence. I think the information it gives is still very valuable, and we have to learn how to adapt it or how it relates to people of color, and its quite possible the work will have to be done by POC. By the way, we have a very good astrologer here Kannon Mcafee who also has ascendant descriptions on his site, you might want to check it out. He has included non whites in his examples. https://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs-2/ [/B][/QUOTE] Woah, that was the best site I've ever seen with respects to rising signs. That had everything I've wanted to say all wrapped up! My problem derived from constantly seeing descriptions from sites like the one I linked above. Thank you for this link! I am going to start using it (: ------------------ Cap Sun Leo Moon Aqua Merc Aqua Venus Cap Mars Leo MC Libra Rising ~~~Blessed Be~~~~ IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 1863 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 12, 2015 07:40 PM
I am always in awe when astrologers give precise description of features for particular ascendants. Like wide set jaw or prominent forehead, etc... For instance, Kannon McAfee on his website lists this as one of the traits of Aries rising: quote: Sometimes the jawbone juts out from the face before tapering to the chin, breaking the usual rounded ovate outline.
If you look at Sammy Davis Jr. his face does fit this particular trait so maybe he is Aries rising after all. IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 223 From: Michigan, USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 12, 2015 07:48 PM
Yes I agree. I have never identified (lookwise) with my rising sign before but this website nailed it! It hit me and my Libra rising nature to a tee. I also want to point out that my SO is Mexican-American and a cancer rising it hit his description to a tee as well. As well as my Father's description (he's an Aries rising). He's Sicilian so I was impressed to see it hit the nail on the head. My Jewish descent mother and grandmother I was especially curious about and it hit the nail on the head for them as well! My mother is a Sag rising and my grandmother is a Scorpio rising ------------------ Cap Sun Leo Moon Aqua Merc Aqua Venus Cap Mars Leo MC Libra Rising ~~~Blessed Be~~~~ IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 3552 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 12, 2015 09:40 PM
Rupaul is a Gemini Rising and Scorpio moon like myselfIP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 223 From: Michigan, USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 12, 2015 09:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Stawr: Rupaul is a Gemini Rising and Scorpio moon like myself
Very cool! Gemini rising are cool people. My best friend is a gem rising and my ex is gemini rising, both very sassy and fun! ------------------ Cap Sun Leo Moon Aqua Merc Aqua Venus Cap Mars Leo MC Libra Rising ~~~Blessed Be~~~~ IP: Logged |
Geminiyoungster Knowflake Posts: 390 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted November 14, 2015 01:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Mergoatsun: I'm a libra rising too, and I was so happy when I saw Beyonce there. I've noticed the huge bias in race with astrology too, do you have a link to your thread? I want to link it with these ones
Sorry for the late reply, i bumped it up for you!! http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/233321.html
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frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 1450 From: Here and There Registered: Apr 2011
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posted November 14, 2015 02:33 PM
What rising sign do you think The Weeknd (Abel Tesfaye) is? I may be wrong but I believe hes a Cap with Scorpio moon...love that combo, explains the dark and bleak mood of his older music which was (imo) more true to himself.EDIT I was wrong..he is an Aquarius but has Scorp moon and Cap Venus/Mars. Knew that combo was in there somwhere  But that crazy hair style..dude looks like a palm tree LOL but it is very unique and he owns that style. Paired with the dark colors and leather he wears, boots, etc...and he has a very pleasing face. Not traditionally handsome but still nice to look at nonetheless. My guess is Cancer rising. Round face, plump cheeks, soft look to his face, big round watery eyes. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65119 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 14, 2015 02:39 PM
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LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 456 From: New Jersey Registered: Jul 2014
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posted November 14, 2015 02:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Did you find Arsenio Hall. I am in love with him!
Astrotheme has him listed as a Sagittarius rising. IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 223 From: Michigan, USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 14, 2015 04:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by LaceyLeigh: Astrotheme has him listed as a Sagittarius rising.
Thanks LaceyLeigh, I was just about to look him up! ------------------ Cap Sun Leo Moon Aqua Merc Aqua Venus Cap Mars Leo MC Libra Rising ~~~Blessed Be~~~~ IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 223 From: Michigan, USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 14, 2015 04:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by frankie2912: What rising sign do you think The Weeknd (Abel Tesfaye) is? I may be wrong but I believe hes a Cap with Scorpio moon...love that combo, explains the dark and bleak mood of his older music which was (imo) more true to himself.[b]EDIT I was wrong..he is an Aquarius but has Scorp moon and Cap Venus/Mars. Knew that combo was in there somwhere  But that crazy hair style..dude looks like a palm tree LOL but it is very unique and he owns that style. Paired with the dark colors and leather he wears, boots, etc...and he has a very pleasing face. Not traditionally handsome but still nice to look at nonetheless. My guess is Cancer rising. Round face, plump cheeks, soft look to his face, big round watery eyes.[/B]
I totally agree! I can see the Cancer rising as well, it's very much there, but for some reason to me he radiates a warmth, almost a red tone which makes me wonder if he has fire anywhere in his chart. I definitely do think he's a Cancer rising. ------------------ Cap Sun Leo Moon Aqua Merc Aqua Venus Cap Mars Leo MC Libra Rising ~~~Blessed Be~~~~ IP: Logged |
Geminiyoungster Knowflake Posts: 390 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted November 14, 2015 09:00 PM
Don't forget to add the r&b singer Brandy to the Libra rising list.. She was once Americas sweetheart..IP: Logged |