posted November 12, 2015 10:48 AM            

Aries: Billie Holiday, Dianna Ross, Aretha Franklin, Maya Angelou, Kandysce McClure, Reggie Watts, Eddie Murphy, Jackie Chan, Leona Lewis, Alessandra Ambrosio, Marvin Gaye, Andy García, Akon, Selena, David Blaine, Martin Lawrence, Tracy Chapman, Samira Wiley, Jill Scott, Rosa Clemente

Taurus: Janet Jackson, Tia Norfleet, “The Rock” Dwayne Johnson, Malcolm X, Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Che Guevara, Jessica Alba, Penélope Cruz, Salvador Dalí, Enrique Iglesias, Janet Jackson, Ella Fitzgerald, Grace Jones, Jet Li (he really smashes the sterotype of a fat/lazy Taurus), Kimora Lee Simmons, Rosario Dawson

Gemini: Tupac Shaku (2Pac),Gladys Knight, Naomi Campbell, Laverne Cox, Natalie Portman, Kanye West, Kyle Minogue, Rafeal Nadal, Yasmine Bleeth, Bar Refaeli, Adriana Lima, Lenny Kravitz, Helena Bonham Carter, Morgan Freeman, Notorius BIG, Anne Frank, Ice Cube, Federico García Lorca, Miles Davis, Mario Cimarro, Dave Navarro, Venus Williams, Kendrick Lamar, Josephine Baker, Lionel Richie, Latoya Jackson, Femi Kuti, Loretta Lynch, Lisa Left Eye Lopes

Cancer: Nelson Mandela, Bobby Norfleet, Ruben Carter, Solange Knowles, Kevin Hart, Missy Elliot, Mike Tyson, 14th Dalai Lama, Selena Gomez, Kevin Hart, Carlos Santana, Jaden Smith, Wendy Williams, Derek Jeter, Nelson Mandela, Nicole Scherzinger, 50 Cent, Vin Diesel, Anne Sinclair, Frida Kahlo, Sofia Vergara (no surprise that she's a Cancer, her moon is also Cancer and she's a Cancer dom), Bill Cosby, Michelle Rodriguez (also a Cancer dom), OJ Simpson (Gross person but influential on the world nonetheless), Malala Yousafzai, Ken Jeong, Sonia Sotomayor, Gerald Levert

Leo: Barack Obama, Whitney Houston, Halle Berry, Usain Bolt, Magic Johnson, Jennifer Lopez, Mila Kunis, Antonio Banderas, Demi Lovato, Roman Polanski, Jean Reno, Monica Lewinsky, Lil Romeo, Louis Armstrong, Andrew Garfield, Jason Momoa, Lynda Carter, Magic Johnson, Soulja Boy, Kelis

Virgo: Beyonce, Kobe Bryant, Taraji P. Henson, Zendaya, Michael Jackson, Keanu Reeves, Freddie Mercury, Salma Hayek, River Phoenix, Julio Iglesias, Adam Sandler, Jada Pinkett Smith, Kobe Bryant, Paulo Coelho, Marc Anthony, Ray Charles, Tommy Lee Jones, Nas, Queen Rania of Jordan, Alexis Bledel, Tyler Perry, Peter Falk, Lea Michele, Daman Wayans, Ludacris, Gloria Estefan, Skandar Keynes, Jennifer Hudson, Idris Elba, Bernie Sanders, Ben Carson, Nas

Libra: Will Smith, Usher, Serena Williams, Ray Charles, Mahatma Ghandi, Lil Wayne, Bruno Mars, TI, Snoop Dog, Ne-Yo, Mario López, Rita Hayworth, Usher, Alicia Silverstone, Dr. Joy DeGruy, Jeff Goldblum, Fran Drescher, Amber Rose, Carrie Fisher, Melissa Victoria Harris Perry, Bella Thorne, Nick Cannon, Toni Braxton, Sacha Baron Cohen, Christina Milan, Ashanti, Jesse Eisenburg, John Coltrane, Sean Levert

Scorpio: Drake, Whoopi Goldberg, Ciara, Frank Ocean, Drake, Pablo Picasso, Joaquin Phoenix, RuPaul, Dorothy Dandridge, David Schwimmer, Jamie Lee Curtis, Lisa Bonet, Puff Daddy (P-Diddy), Nelly, Kat Deluna, Gavin Rossdale, Roseanne Bar, Carl Sagan, Kirk Hammett, Gabrielle Union, Tila Tequila

Sagittarius: Tina Turner, Nicki Minaj, Tyra Banks, Jimi Hendrix, Jennifer Beals, Michael Clarke Duncan, Bruce Lee, Jay-Z, Pope Francis, Vanessa Hudgens, Christine Teigen, Sarah Silverman, Jamie Foxx, Lucy Liu, Margaret Cho, Raven-Symoné, Samuel L. Jackson, Trey Songz, Nikki Sixx, DMX, Bette Midler, Uri Geller, Richard Pryor, Michael Clarke Duncan, Rey Mysterio, Robin Roberts, Dr. Sebi, Manny Pacquaio

Capricorn: John Legend, Michelle Obama, Muhammed Ali, Martin Luther King Jr., Denzel Washington, Joan Baez, Zayn Malik, Ricky Martin, Aaliyah, Tiger Woods, Helena Christensen, Lebron James, Carlos Castañeda, Susan Sotag, Howard Stern, Pitbull, LL Cool J, Donna Summer, Jean-Michel Basquiat, Mary J. Blige, Blue Ivy Carter, Eartha Kitt, Jordan Sparks

Aquarius: Alicia Keys, Shakira, Oprah Winfrey, Cristiano Ronaldo, Bob Marley, Michael Jordan, Tinashe, Yoko Ono, Joesph Gordon-Levitt, Kelly Rowland, Gertrude Stein, Amal Clooney, Adam Lambert, Dr. Dre, Chris Rock, The Weeknd, Jane Seymour, Kid Cudi, Brandy, Kerry Washington, Rosa Parks, Stacey Dash, Jackie Robinson, Angela Davis

posted November 12, 2015 11:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
You just separated people on white and non-white.
These threads are not cool.

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posted November 12, 2015 12:27 PM            

Jews are not a race. Jews are members of all races. We are scattered across the globe and we are every color, so to call us "non white" is a statement of ignorance.

Jews are a religion, not a race.

The races are white, black, red, yellow and brown. Thanks

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posted November 12, 2015 12:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
For general information

Jews are not a race. Jews are members of all races. We are scattered across the globe, so to call us "non white" is a statement of ignorance. Thanks

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I'm from Jewish descent. Jewish people are not a race, but an ethnic/cultural group. Many of us are white, however I included being Jewish and of Jewish descent because there is much antisemitic attitudes in this world. I would never want to imply any offense in this. Being from a Jewish background myself I understand how sensitive this issue is.
I struggled on whether or not to include Jewish people and people of Jewish descent, but ultimately I decided to do it since we often receive invisibility and hate.

posted November 12, 2015 12:38 PM            

Persecuting a race is easier. That is not good, but it is true.

Jews are a cultural group and a religion but we are NOT a race.

The races are white, red, yellow, brown and black, as I said.

Thanks

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posted November 12, 2015 12:52 PM            

On the contrary...

Ancient astrologers, were they white? Mayan, Indian...Sumerian...Chinese astrologers...not white.

posted November 12, 2015 12:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, we are a cultural group BUT people have killed us because they called us a "race" and that made it easier.

Persecuting a race is easier. That is not good, but it is true.

Jews are a cultural group and a religion but we are NOT a race.

The races are white, red, yellow, brown and black, as I said.

Thanks

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Yes I 100% agree with you. As someone who wants a PHD in clinical psychology I am well aware of the consequences from this as well.

Thank you for pointing this out to me, I have change the wording (cannot change the wording in the title) to better represent these views. My intend was never to offend anyone, especially my own people. However, I do see where offense was taken.

I truly apologize for any hurt I have cause because of this. However, I want this thread to continue because everyone deserves to be seen for their contributions and I think a fun way to do this is to show influential people in each sun sign. My intent was for people to say, oh wow I didn't know so and so shared my sign, that's so cool! Etc.

Like I said before, I do apologize for wording my post so poorly. I am always willing to have an open dialogue about anything bothersome.

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posted November 12, 2015 12:58 PM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Actually the reason you were able to list those names is because those people were celebrated. That's how you know their names. If you're concerned that we don't know Smokey Robinson is (was? SORRY!) a Pisces, no worries! I'm sure his astrology loving fans know.

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posted November 12, 2015 01:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I never thought astrology was white-centric.

On the contrary...

Ancient astrologers, were they white? Mayan, Indian...Sumerian...Chinese astrologers...not white.

You kinda have to be open to all cultures to embrace astrology. Seems the most white-centric people I know are the most suspicious of Eastern philosophies, religions, and practices like astrology. We are the opposite of that.

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Yes astrology has definitely stemmed from diverse cultures, however I have noticed that it has become lacking in diversity standards and to me that is troublesome. Especially when looking at rising signs, they are often described with typical white characteristics.

My hope is that people who embrace astrology are open to all cultures, but it is harder for some people than others. For example, I went to a little shop in my town to get a chart reading and the lady looked at me and told me, "I bet you're Jewish. Do you struggle with finances?"

That was extremely offensive to me, and without her even looking at my chart it was ridiculous. It was safe to say that I walked out, and I have friends who have experienced similar things.

posted November 12, 2015 01:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Btw, The Peace Dealer is one of my favorite YouTube astrologers.

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I will have to check it out! I'm not familiar with him, I'm excited to see some videos! Also KRSastrology is an amazing Vedic astrologer.

posted November 12, 2015 01:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
or example, I went to a little shop in my town to get a chart reading and the lady looked at me and told me, "I bet you're Jewish. Do you struggle with finances?"

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posted November 12, 2015 01:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thank you, M.

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No problem! I appreciate you pointing this out. Again, I apologize for my errors

posted November 12, 2015 01:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

How unprofessional!!

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I agree! It is something I'm sort of used to in my town, but I wouldn't have expected it from an astrologer. I tried to rationalize her hate by thinking that maybe she was just trying to relate to me, but it hit a bit of a sore spot for me. I was bullied for my looks (Jewish) in school and I was too impulsive during the chart reading to stay and listen to her side.

posted November 12, 2015 01:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Just seeing this thread's name on the forum's list is making me feel uncomfortable. I really feel itchy when people start separating other people by colors. I thought we were past the "whites and non-whites" times.

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Orange, in the USA I believe that we will not be past that for a long time. Our culture is so deeply ingrained in white privilege that it will take much reform and understanding to change this. The USA has had much reform already, but we still have a long way to go. Even with reform, there will still be residual hurt feelings and trauma, so there is a long way to go. I like to remember that the USA is a young country and we still have a long time to build and strengthen ourselves. We will get better! We have had much positive progress lately and that gives me much hope for change

To end, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. once famously said, “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.”

posted November 12, 2015 01:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
You just separated people on white and non-white.
These threads are not cool.

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posted November 12, 2015 01:50 PM            

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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
Thank you for this thread. There isn't enough love for people of color in astrology. Especially when it comes to describing what each sign/rising sign looks like. Very unfortunate.

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