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Topic: The Most hypocritical sign
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Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 3288 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted November 24, 2015 02:28 PM
Are you a hypocrite? Ever? How much so? What in your chart do you think makes you be this way???
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Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 3288 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted November 24, 2015 02:29 PM
I am THE MOST hypocritical person ever.. I literally always will think and feel a certain way but act in a contradictory manner.. Now I'm not a liar or two faced, I just have different views and opinions that are changeable and so I act in a multitude of ways! I feel like this is my Gemini Ascendant manifested.. Or maybe it's all my air? Edit:: My moon is Sagittarius and my ascendant is Gemini the opposite sign so maybe because they are opposites that has something to do with it ? IP: Logged |
LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 546 From: New Jersey Registered: Jul 2014
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posted November 24, 2015 02:42 PM
My Cancer mother. She claims she hates, even despises liars, but she has been caught in a few lies herself.IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 419 From: Michigan, USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 24, 2015 02:47 PM
I'm a bit of a hypocrite because of my Libra ascending. I want to be liked and to have peace and harmony so much that I'm not my full self or don't express all my views. I sometimes even pander to the people I'm around so I don't start any conflict, which my Cap sun and Leo moon are very much against, but libra rising seems to rule me with first encounters haha------------------ Cap Sun Leo Moon Aqua Merc Aqua Venus Cap Mars Leo MC Libra Rising ~~~Blessed Be~~~~ IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 2002 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 24, 2015 03:33 PM
Not sure which one is the most hypocritical sign, but I would say that the least hypocritical sign is Aries. As much as they grate my nerves, lol, I've got to love them for not even wanting to try to pretend to be different than they are. What you see is what you get. Gotta respect that. IP: Logged |
Sikanda Knowflake Posts: 298 From: 28080 Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 24, 2015 04:02 PM
I'd say Libra and Gemini placements, because they are more diplomatic and know how to please when they want to.IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 7487 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 24, 2015 05:31 PM
I define hypocrisy as preaching one thing but doing another. Examples of hypocrisy: someone claiming to be a vegan and promoting it as an obligatory ethical lifestyle who eats whoppers in private because they're so damn good, a politicians saying homosexuality is immoral that will bring God's wrath on this nation yet looks for gay sex on craigslist, a girl who has butt sex with a guy she barely knows on a regular basis who calls other girls ****** for having sex with someone after an enduring relationship that takes it to the next level (there was a woman who admitted she did this as a teen girl), a serial cheater who promotes monogamy as the only acceptable paradigm, a dysfunctional alcoholic who believes "drug addicts" (not including alcoholics, despite that the reason he gives could easily be applied to his exception/alcohol) should be executed, or a "nature lover" who promotes protection of the natural world while tossing lit cigarettes from his Land Rover as he drives through the woods, and so on. What I DON'T consider a hypocrite is someone who doesn't express all his/her views because they know it would create pointless conflict and drama, or by being diplomatic--if one wants to state their thoughts or otherwise not be diplomatic but they restrain those urges because it's inappropriate, then that is inner conflict and impulse control, but not hypocrisy. To become hypocrisy, one must state that everyone should speak their mind at all times, to hell with the consequences (which strikes me as a stupid thing to promote, and most would consider that rude at best). And even in the case of say a vegan who eats meat because s/he is scared of offending the company they're with, that's still not hypocrisy (assuming this is rare and fills the person with guilt, but this can easily enter into gray territory), but rather spinelessness. I may respond to this more later (I have plenty of other thoughts, I could make this a large essay if I wanted), but I wanted to put that out there. When and if I respond, this is how I will be defining hypocrisy, and what I won't be counting as hypocrisy.
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Odette Moderator Posts: 6557 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted November 24, 2015 05:47 PM
I could associate the sign of Pisces with hypocrisy... ... much like I could associate Aries with aggression, Taurus with hedonism, Gemini with flakiness, Cancer with manipulativeness, Leo with narcissism, Virgo with verbal abuse, Libra with gossip, Scorpio with vengefulness, Sagittarius with lack of empathy, Capricorn with snobbery, and Aquarius with erratic/shocking behavior. So yes - from my POV... the negativity that comes with hypocrisy falls under Pisces/Neptune 100%... I honestly can't imagine any other sign being hypocritical to that extent.
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Odette Moderator Posts: 6557 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted November 24, 2015 05:50 PM
I'll add to Pixie's hypocrisy examples:- Someone claiming to be religious and kind to everyone (something like the Second Coming)... while actually being an abuser and rapist. (Neptune ALL over!) - Someone claiming to be extremely honest and harping on and on about the philosophical importance of complete and utter honesty - whilst persistently lying to people about any number of things (Again Pisces/Neptune! Tell me you haven't met one!) It's all smoke and mirrors with Neptune. Nothing is ever what it seems. This is the dark side of Neptune. IP: Logged |
maira Knowflake Posts: 1231 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 24, 2015 05:59 PM
Oh, what a politically incorrect thread I also associate hypocrisy with water signs - I once knew a Cancer who shed tears for every furry and fuzzy cute little animal, for the babies, for all human kind really, such a kind and considerate human being he was. But his hobby was hunting. No, really, he killed animals for fun.I consider hypocrisy to be lower on the morality scale than lying - the liar knows what he is doing and he has a clear purpose, but the hypocrite doesn't see that he is really lying to himself. I struggle with my own hypocrisy every day. I think that's my Mercury in Pisces  IP: Logged |
Spongebob Knowflake Posts: 297 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted November 24, 2015 05:59 PM
Least hypocritical - CapricornMost -Virgo IP: Logged |
Steph22922 Knowflake Posts: 77 From: United States, Kansas Registered: Jan 2015
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posted December 03, 2015 10:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: I could associate the sign of Pisces with hypocrisy... ... much like I could associate Aries with aggression, Taurus with hedonism, Gemini with flakiness, Cancer with manipulativeness, Leo with narcissism, Virgo with verbal abuse, Libra with gossip, Scorpio with vengefulness, Sagittarius with lack of empathy, Capricorn with snobbery, and Aquarius with erratic/shocking behavior. So yes - from my POV... the negativity that comes with hypocrisy falls under Pisces/Neptune 100%... I honestly can't imagine any other sign being hypocritical to that extent.
YES! I dated a Pisces guy for two months and wow, let me tell you, I have NEVER met such a hypocritical, manipulative, selfish liar in my life!
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 66161 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 03, 2015 10:19 PM
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Violets Knowflake Posts: 5157 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 03, 2015 10:19 PM
When you have a Pisces Sun opposite Virgo Moon, you're considerably less likely to deny your own hypocrisy. The opposition tells both sides of the story, see?I don't know enough Pisces (or like enough of them, oddly) to decipher whether the Sun sign in itself is hypocritical. In my opinion, everyone can be hypocritical, just as everyone can be subjective based on their perceptions of the world, etc. I know that I often don't practice what I preach (not deliberately), and when I realize as much, I apologize and acknowledge it. But then, I have NN in Sag. My aunt is an Aries, and she is one of the most sanctimonious, hypocritical people I've ever met. Oddly, Leos can be the least hypocritical. Some of them. I'm guessing due to Virgo placements, because honestly...a reasonable Virgo is as critical of themselves as they are of others, and can admit to it.  IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 5157 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 03, 2015 10:24 PM
^ Although sometimes my realization that I've been hypocritical comes after the fact (like years, possibly), and I have to at least own that behavior to my own self, if I'm unable to apologize to others.I personally believe that everyone is hypocritical, in their own ways. Because until your perspective is broadened, you may not realize that you've been a hypocrite.  IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 7741 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 03, 2015 10:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Spongebob: Least hypocritical - CapricornMost -Virgo
A Capricorn lectured me on manners, whilst not treating me with even the basic respect that any human being deserves. I was physically attacked, as well. I tend to realize when I'm being a hypocrite, and will admit to it as it comes to me. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 7741 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 03, 2015 10:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Violets: ^ Although sometimes my realization that I've been hypocritical comes after the fact (like years, possibly), and I have to at least own that behavior to my own self, if I'm unable to apologize to others.I personally believe that everyone is hypocritical, in their own ways. Because until your perspective is broadened, you may not realize that you've been a hypocrite. 
I agree with you, and was going to add that to my post. My sister once planned to go to college on the West coast. She was going to study something related to the ocean (not marine biology, but something related to that). She got information from the school, and excitedly spoke of their annual camping trips to one of the islands off the coast. Several years later, I asked her why she never followed through with that (her Canadian boyfriend aside), and she denied that ever happening. All of it. WTF? IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 5157 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 03, 2015 10:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I tend to realize when I'm being a hypocrite, and will admit to it as it comes to me.
I tend to associate this more with how we choose to conduct ourselves as human beings, rather than our Sun signs. I have heavy Neptune in my chart, but I also have Saturn trine Sun in natal, among other placements. I can't generalize in this sense, as far as Sun/Moon placements, because there are always exceptions to the rule, in both directions. I would say Gemini Moons, but then I've been around some really upfront Gemini Moons who are able to acknowledge their own part in things. So...people can always surpass expectations, or lag behind. Edit... Jeez. Speaking of Virgo Moons, please excuse my absurd typos, if I haven't corrected them. IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 5157 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 03, 2015 10:54 PM
@ TeaselWell, that's weird. What is her sign/placements, if you don't mind my asking? Very odd (and I can imagine which university, lol). IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 6557 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted December 03, 2015 11:03 PM
quote: rather than our Sun signs.
I agree that it's not a Sun sign thing, but I wouldn't stretch this particular issue to - human beings being human. IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 5157 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 03, 2015 11:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: I agree that it's not a Sun sign thing, but I wouldn't stretch this particular issue to - human beings being human.
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Odette Moderator Posts: 6557 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted December 03, 2015 11:20 PM
I mean...For instance, lying is very commonplace... and we all lie, in some shape or form. But hypocrisy seems a lot more complex to me. I'm not sure that everyone has it in them to be hypocritical in virtue of being human. IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 5157 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 03, 2015 11:27 PM
^ I would group lying in with hypocrisy, if you agree that lying is wrong, yeah? Where is the line to be drawn, and who draws it?And that's what I mean by "subjective", and our perceptions being broadened. Not that I'm hanging out with some sort of halo or anything. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 15112 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 03, 2015 11:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Desiring Shadows: Are you a hypocrite? Ever? How much so? What in your chart do you think makes you be this way???
I guess so... My brain is wired all funny, so I do start criticizing certain things or laughing about them, without noticing or caring that I am guilty of the same thing. Because if I think of myself doing it, it's not funny anymore, it's either sad or a realization that people are all similar. I have conflicting desires from all the squares in my chart. Along with a Pisces moon square Neptune. I don't consider myself as cohesively representing one ideology or one set of principles, I just kinda make stuff up as I go along and hope it flies. Definitely could be hypocritical because of that impulsiveness, not looking before I leap. IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 5157 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 03, 2015 11:40 PM
It really does demand a definition of hypocrisy as an absolute, in my opinion. Otherwise it's just grey area, open to interpretation.Meh. I don't have an exact definition. But I dislike it in its manifestations. I recoil from it in myself and in others, and always have. Although I wouldn't confuse it with mental health issues that people have no control over, and are oblivious to. I make exceptions for such things, to a degree. And that's another example of "subjective" and "grey area" to me. Some people might not realize that such things exist, and would not make that exception. IP: Logged |