posted December 05, 2015 09:03 PM            

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Originally posted by VestasLight:

"Men often relate to the sexual power of women with the Capricorn moon...

Once this has happened, it's difficult to experience love as anything but an extreme power relationship, or as some kind of struggle for power.

This can translate into a need, in some people, for sexual power of a very specific kind that may, in the end, have very little to do with actual love.

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posted December 05, 2015 09:12 PM            

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Originally posted by VestasLight:
I'm not sure how to exchange emails. I am not willing to post it here on the forum, so...

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posted December 05, 2015 09:59 PM            

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Originally posted by VestasLight:

I had made a comment above that after watching the replies on this thread, that Cappy moon may not be so much about D-type or s-type but seems to enjoy a bit of power play in the bedroom.

Side note: I just have to point out that in bdsm, the submissive is ultimately considered to be the one with all the power.

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I have to disagree with that last statement... im a dominatrix and a lifestyle dominant. i dont give my power to the submissive, they give it to me and i choose what i do with it with my creativity/imagination. its very easy to submit as you just say i like "XYZ" and it is up to the dom to decide what to do with this... even more so to explore more control mechanisms as a dominant means we are in control of the situation. we reglate the mood, the atmosphere, the situtation, the words to be said, clothes to be worn, implements to be used.

being dominant is like driving a car and taking the submissive as a passenger with a destination in mind.

capricorns in general are about power it self in a general way not sexual... it can be extended to any aspect because it can be channeled in any way possible with ease...
and i mean this emotionally, physically, mentally, professionally, sexually, even psychically because it is on the totem pole of cancer.

posted December 05, 2015 10:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Julz87:
I'll post mine, let me know soon as you have it so I can delete.

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posted December 05, 2015 10:39 PM            

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Originally posted by midnightcatqueen:
I have to disagree with that last statement... im a dominatrix and a lifestyle dominant. i dont give my power to the submissive, they give it to me and i choose what i do with it with my creativity/imagination. its very easy to submit as you just say i like "XYZ" and it is up to the dom to decide what to do with this... even more so to explore more control mechanisms as a dominant means we are in control of the situation. we reglate the mood, the atmosphere, the situtation, the words to be said, clothes to be worn, implements to be used.

being dominant is like driving a car and taking the submissive as a passenger with a destination in mind.

capricorns in general are about power it self in a general way not sexual... it can be extended to any aspect because it can be channeled in any way possible with ease...
and i mean this emotionally, physically, mentally, professionally, sexually, even psychically because it is on the totem pole of cancer.

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Capricorn is ruled by Saturn - structure and authority. Pluto rules dominance.

And I appreciate all you have to say. But I don't think this forum is the place to debate D/s dynamics.

posted December 05, 2015 11:53 PM            

good thread though!

posted December 06, 2015 12:24 AM            

All this requires a full chart reading why different people are submissive or dominant, I have a distinct feeling it involves the childhood upbringing and experiences as the quote indicated.

Another thing is Capricorn can be a goal driven sign, but sometimes people get tired of always giving out decisions, orders, and structure so the Capricorn Moon becomes submissive because they just want to experience it for themselves without being in control. To feel the earthly plane without rules. Some Capricorn Moon's life is learning to be okay with letting things go.

posted December 06, 2015 02:14 AM            

He does make some points that are interesting and ring true... but a lot of the interpretation is still based on the typical "negative" (cold childhood, unloving mother etc.) stuff you hear about Capricorn Moon.

Capricorn has several manifestations... Having career-oriented parents for example, does not make them cold - just hardworking.
The most recent person I found with this Moon sign is the child of a former PM (not surprising at all!).

A Capricorn Moon that is afflicted by Mars or Saturn could have a difficult relationship with their mother, or both parents. But the sign itself does not point to anything inherently negative, nor does it point to a child being mistreated (or treated as "an extreme submissive").

Personally, I was always treated with respect and not in any way as a "submissive" by my parents and grandparents.

I am actually submissive on a sexual level, but that's more my Mars/Neptune trine Venus/NN. This is mostly because I love going with the flow, when I'm with the right person and trust them. I'm very easygoing, in love and sex.

In other areas of my life - not so much
Or not at all, I should say!

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Men often relate to the sexual power of women with the Capricorn moon as a submissive responds to a dominatrix, that is, with the exquisite pleasure of surrender to something stronger and greater than themselves.

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posted December 06, 2015 08:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
I'm familiar with the interpretation you quoted.
My opinion is that the writer has some personal baggage with a Capricorn Moon woman (or several).

He does make some points that are interesting and ring true... but a lot of the interpretation is still based on the typical "negative" (cold childhood, unloving mother etc.) stuff you hear about Capricorn Moon.

Capricorn has several manifestations... Having career-oriented parents for example, does not make them cold - just hardworking.
The most recent person I found with this Moon sign is the child of a former PM (not surprising at all!).

A Capricorn Moon that is afflicted by Mars or Saturn could have a difficult relationship with their mother, or both parents. But the sign itself does not point to anything inherently negative, nor does it point to a child being mistreated (or treated as "an extreme submissive").

Personally, I was always treated with respect and not in any way as a "submissive" by my parents and grandparents.

I am actually submissive on a sexual level, but that's more my Mars/Neptune trine Venus/NN. This is mostly because I love going with the flow, when I'm with the right person and trust them. I'm very easygoing, in love and sex.

In other areas of my life - not so much
Or not at all, I should say!

No... I don't attract submissive types, nor am I compatible with them.
But - I can see where he is going with this... Capricorn and Scorpio Moon are very psychological and they have a kind of "wisdom" about them. They are the most likely to look at someone - and make that person feel like they can "see right through them".
^^ There are men out there, who go weak at the knees for this kind of intensity... It's definitely not "all" men though.

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Yes, it isn't all men. And like everything else in astrology, nothing is ever written in stone. I said earlier in the thread, I think it boils down to Cappy Moon enjoys sexual power play in the bedroom - which can go either way.

And I am the same as you, I'm certainly not submissive in all areas of life - I'm an alpha female with a little kinky twist

posted December 06, 2015 09:02 AM            

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Originally posted by VestasLight:
Yes, it isn't all men. And like everything else in astrology, nothing is ever written in stone.

It always boils down to the aspects in the chart... always.

I said earlier in the thread, I think it's clear from this thread that the majority of Cappy Moons enjoy sexual power play in the bedroom - which can go either way.

And I am the same as you, I'm certainly not submissive in all areas of life - I'm an alpha female with a little kinky twist

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posted December 06, 2015 09:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Comatoes:
Depending on aspects, feelings for a Capricorn Moon comes through mastery. This moon needs to manifest the earthly plane through the parental access. The Fatherly image of Capricorn gives off this need for approval and disapproval. Capricorn is a sign that involves a give and take. The Father provides sustenance but the Father also disciplines and causes pain to his children when they disobey. The Capricorn and Cancer axis taps into this Mother/Father psychological theme of love, pain, power and discipline.

All this requires a full chart reading why different people are submissive or dominant, I have a distinct feeling it involves the childhood upbringing and experiences as the quote indicated.

Another thing is Capricorn can be a goal driven sign, but sometimes people get tired of always giving out decisions, orders, and structure so the Capricorn Moon becomes submissive because they just want to experience it for themselves without being in control. To feel the earthly plane without rules. Some Capricorn Moon's life is learning to be okay with letting things go.

There is many ways of seeing this...but Capricorn will always be a sensual sign to me, there can be real cravings from this sign, Capricorn is also related to religion, sin, redemption...lots of symbolism. To atone for something -- dominant/submissive.

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posted December 06, 2015 09:07 AM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Cap is like, "Just sit the **** down and I'll do this. You just gonna mess it up."

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posted December 06, 2015 04:29 PM            

I consider myself a free spirit, if not for money I'll just fly like a bird all over the world. I don't attract dominant people, most of my friends are easy going, the men I fell for were all easy going. Love/sex is all about fun, emotional connection and mutual respect for me. It can be dirty, wild whatever but I wouldn't be comfortable with the heavier sides of BDSM. Even though, there is cap moon, venus scorpio there, I think life is already hard enough and I want an responsible but fun loving person in all areas of my intimate life. Besides the usual child-parent struggles, I ever played power games with anyone and the people who treat me unfairly in my eyes I don't engage back. I want to live my life with as little conflict as possible, a man who'll want me to play a role for him in bed or outside is not for me. I don't want to do that either cause it's exciting and fun when people do whatever they want and I want to be surprised with spontaneity. People who do BDSM, I admire you guys. You seem to have endless patience to wait things out to achieve the fullest experience, really impressive!

I'm not cold, reading first about capricorn moon that kind of hurt to think about but people always tell me nice things about myself so I'll choose to focus on that. I had some difficulties with my mother but she's also a lovely person who taught me a lot about kindness. Sometimes I wonder if a study has been done on Cap Moon. So many people who hurt everyday because of the actions of their parents, I honestly don't think the majority of them would have a cap moon or harsh saturn aspects or vice versa for people who have an easier childhood.