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Aunt Anomalia
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posted January 27, 2016 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me fuel your obsession: my duad Moon is my mother's Moon (sign) and my duad Sun is my father's Sun. I can imagine myself have the Moon and ASC. The signs belong in my natal big 3 though. My dwad big 3 is a miss imo.

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Hello Hypatia,
new obsession uh,
don't get lost. I could do the Harmonics with my reg program. Downloaded planetdance for the other one. Long ago(maybe 20years+) I did those by hand. Program makes it much easier for sure. strange Leo symbol, like a limpDk.Not so sure on the value for me.
When I learned to do these by hand never did the houses,just noted a second position for all planets in natal wheel, so when looking at this planet dance chart wheel my head hurts,

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posted January 27, 2016 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hmm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what do you think is heavier?
duads or decans

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posted January 27, 2016 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hmm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what do you think is heavier?
duads or decans

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hypatia238
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posted January 27, 2016 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Seimei:
Hello Hypatia,
new obsession uh,
don't get lost. I could do the Harmonics with my reg program. Downloaded planetdance for the other one. Long ago(maybe 20years+) I did those by hand. Program makes it much easier for sure. strange Leo symbol, like a limpDk.Not so sure on the value for me.
When I learned to do these by hand never did the houses,just noted a second position for all planets in natal wheel, so when looking at this planet dance chart wheel my head hurts,


lol omg you are right it does look like a Limpdk.

Come on share your duads with us...!

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posted January 27, 2016 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
Let me fuel your obsession: my duad Moon is my mother's Moon (sign) and my duad Sun is my father's Sun. I can imagine myself have the Moon and ASC. The signs belong in my natal big 3 though. My dwad big 3 is a miss imo.


Very cool AA about your parents.

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
lol omg you are right it does look like Limpdk.

Come on share your duads with us...!


Well it is easy to say
My duad Sun is Natal south node.
My duad Moon is square my natal Vesta
My duad Mercury at 19sc49 is way way out of square my natal moon at 17leo36,, I feel that way because duads are based on 2.5 degrees so orbs should be TIGHT.But in the duad itself it is square Neptune 19aq58.
Duad Venus 8sa35 is square Natal Pluto8vo06.Midpoint being my Natal ascendant
Duad Mars 16pi47 is over two degrees op natal Sun, so based on my above statement(imo) wide,but very close my natal Pallas.No I am not going to calculate Pallas by hand.
Duad Jupiter moves to early 2sag47(home) and squares Duad Moon,It is over 1.5 degrees but I guess we can allow for greater moiety in case of the moon.Also op natal Vesta/7 minutes
Saturn moves to 12li47 (exalted) 1* 07 conjunct natal Mars
In duad my natal Uranus node conjunction in Leo moves to Gemini, sextile itself.
Pluto go to 7Sa12 basically square natal position.
Easy to say, not as easy to grip.
The Sun and south natal Node YES, and trine to Uranus node in duad is a flavor I won't argue against,
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posted January 27, 2016 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
It definitely explains why I like Leos so much!

Yep, your Virgo duad AC is conjunct my Sun & Mercury.

Thanks for instructing me on how to do that, and for creating this topic...I had seen a few mentions of dwads and duads on here, but I didn't know what any of it meant. This is really interesting!

ASC in Pisces - Taurus duad, Gemini dwad
Sun in Virgo - Aquarius duad, Scorpio dwad
Moon in Gemini - Leo duad, Gemini dwad
Mercury in Virgo - Aquarius duad, Virgo dwad
Venus in Virgo - Libra duad, Taurus dwad
Mars in Gemini - Cancer duad, Taurus dwad
Jupiter in Leo - Virgo duad, Taurus dwad
Uranus in Capricorn - Pisces duad, Gemini dwad
Neptune in Capricorn - Taurus duad, Leo dwad
Saturn in Capricorn - Leo duad, Scorpio dwad
Pluto in Scorpio - Taurus duad, Libra dwad

I love how these continue to fill the gaps in my chart, so to speak.


You know the ascendant Duad can be great for narrowing down time of birth. Like I know I was born after 12:30PM but before 1PM. My mom assures me that although my my Birth certificate says I was born at 12:00PM noon that she remembers clearly looking at the clock after I was born and that it was 12 noon but closer to 1PM around 12:30ish, but after 12:30PM; she makes it sound like it can be anywhere from 12:35PM to 12:45PM.

I have Sag rising and 12:35PM would give me a Leo Duad and Sag Dwad and 12:45Pm would give me a Virgo Duad and capricorn Dwad.

I do like cap and virgo risers but that could be explained by my sun in virgo conjunct MC. If I am honest my sag rising with dwad in sag and duad in Leo match my personality a lot more than Sag rising with dwad in capricorn and duad in virgo.

With AC duad in Virgo and Dwad in capricorn I would be anxious, always busy working on a project or maintaining my house, I would be less blunt and more reserved and measured, less impulsive, more punctual, I would be a perfectionist which I am not. I would identify a lot more with my Virgo Sun conjunct MC which has always puzzled me.

*You must be fiercely independent with Sun in virgo with duad in Aquarius, and with dwad in scorpio in addition to duad in aquarius perhaps very hot and hold too struggling with the desire to be on your own and keep your freedom but also to want to bond strongly with another.

I imagine that with Venus in virgo and Libra duad and Taurus dwad that you are super picky about your appearance daily, big on fashion and looking your best always.*

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posted January 27, 2016 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok I finally figure it all out and am really quite fascinated that there are lots of similarities with my family and soulmate too.

Scorpio ASC, Aries/Taurus duad (bang on 15 deg so not sure which one to choose?), Virgo dwad
Gemini sun, Aqua duad, sag dwad
Gemini merc, cap duad, scorp dwad
Cancer Venus, Taurus duad, Aqua dwad
Leo Mars, cancer duad, Pisces dwad
Virgo moon, Virgo duad, Aries dwad
Cancer Jupiter, Scorpio duad, Leo dwad

Mum is an aqua sun, sag moon, dad had Pisces sun, Aqua Venus. Bro has cancer Mars.
Soulmate has Venus duad conjunct my Mars dwad. My dwad moon same sign as his sun/Venus. His Mars dwad conjunct my Sun dwad. Which correlates with our natal sun/Mars conjunction. Our duad moons both cancer. He has natal moon in 4th so must be very much influenced by cancer.
His SN duad conjunct my NN duad in Lib.

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posted January 27, 2016 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Seimei:
Well it is easy to say
My duad Sun is Natal south node.
My duad Moon is square my natal Vesta
My duad Mercury at 19sc49 is way way out of square my natal moon at 17leo36,, I feel that way because duads are based on 2.5 degrees so orbs should be TIGHT.But in the duad itself it is square Neptune 19aq58.
Duad Venus 8sa35 is square Natal Pluto8vo06.Midpoint being my Natal ascendant
Duad Mars 16pi47 is over two degrees op natal Sun, so based on my above statement(imo) wide,but very close my natal Pallas.No I am not going to calculate Pallas by hand.
Duad Jupiter moves to early 2sag47(home) and squares Duad Moon,It is over 1.5 degrees but I guess we can allow for greater moiety in case of the moon.Also op natal Vesta/7 minutes
Saturn moves to 12li47 (exalted) 1* 07 conjunct natal Mars
In duad my natal Uranus node conjunction in Leo moves to Gemini, sextile itself.
Pluto go to 7Sa12 basically square natal position.
Easy to say, not as easy to grip.
The Sun and south natal Node YES, and trine to Uranus node in duad is a flavor I won't argue against,
edit later maybe


Interesting your duad Sun is in VIRGO! conjunct your natal Southnode! that explains IMO why you enjoy same sign romantic relationships.

In my experience guys with Duad Sun in Virgo and Duad Moon in Virgo are attracted to me and I have Sun in Virgo.

As for orbs there is no information on it online which I find that telling in a way, I am not convinced that radix to duad synastry has to be in orb to be felt. The tighter the orb the more it should be felt naturally and the more significant no doubt but I get the impression that with duads what is crucial is the sign and house placement which dictates what you are drawn to/seeking. My instincts tell me that with duads you have to be a bit more flexible, its a more instinctual dimension.

I would argue though as well that any significant relationship will have some exact (under 1d) conjunctions between duad and radix specially involving the DC axis it seems so tight aspects are crucial but I don't discount the wide aspects either, this is my instincts on this matter based on my personal observations so far; I feel both are important and telling.

I don't think my ex having Sun and Moon duad in Virgo in the 12th and him falling for me a sun virgo with moon in pisces is a coincidence even though his Sun-Moon duad don't conjunct my Sun he was still drawn to me and picked on this energy. Interestingly I always felt he was way more 'virgo' than me but he only has moon in pisces in the 6th and nothing in virgo but now with his Sun and Moon duad in Virgo it makes sense. My Duad moon conjuncts his Sun by 6d and his Duad Moon conjuncts my Sun by sign.

But yes we do have some tight aspects; his duad Venus conjuncts my DC by 1d, My Duad Moon conjuncts his Duad DC exact as well as his natal karma and true lilith axis. My duad AC conjuncts his natal northnode exact. Last, his natal vertex-IC conjunct my Dwad Moon, his Dwad venus and my natal southnode and AC, crazy that last one, that IC & AC overlay just keeps getting more interesting; his neptune ruler of his 7th is there too squaring my Moon on his DC.

Where is your Duad moon? What sign?

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Interesting your duad Sun is in VIRGO! conjunct your natal Southnode! that explains IMO why you enjoy same sign romantic relationships.

In my experience guys with Duad Sun in Virgo and Duad Moon in Virgo are attracted to me and I have Sun in Virgo.

As for orbs there is no information on it online which I find that telling in a way, I am not convinced that radix to duad synastry has to be in orb to be felt. The tighter the orb the more it should be felt naturally and the more significant no doubt but I get the impression that with duads what is crucial is the sign and house placement which dictates what you are drawn to/seeking. My instincts tell me that with duads you have to be a bit more flexible, its a more instinctual dimension.

I would argue though as well that any significant relationship will have some exact (under 1d) conjunctions between duad and radix specially involving the DC axis it seems so tight aspects are crucial but I don't discount the wide aspects either, this is my instincts on this matter based on my personal observations so far; I feel both are important and telling.

I don't think my ex having Sun and Moon duad in Virgo in the 12th and him falling for me a sun virgo with moon in pisces is a coincidence even though his Sun-Moon duad don't conjunct my Sun he was still drawn to me and picked on this energy. Interestingly I always felt he was way more 'virgo' than me but he only has moon in pisces in the 6th and nothing in virgo but now with his Sun and Moon duad in Virgo it makes sense. My Duad moon conjuncts his Sun by 6d and his Duad Moon conjuncts my Sun by sign.

But yes we do have some tight aspects; his duad Venus conjuncts my DC by 1d, My Duad Moon conjuncts his Duad DC exact as well as his natal karma and true lilith axis. My duad AC conjuncts his natal northnode exact. Last, his natal vertex-IC conjunct my Dwad Moon, his Dwad venus and my natal southnode and AC, crazy that last one, that IC & AC overlay just keeps getting more interesting; his neptune ruler of his 7th is there too squaring my Moon on his DC.

Where is your Duad moon? What sign?


Mercury rx Not over, oh phuq.
My natal Sun is Virgo.
My natal south node is 26aq07 or 27aq13 T node
My duad Sun is 26AQ47 NOT Virgo
To answer your question
Duad Moon is 1pi
But since you mention it,sort of >
the other one> D W AD,, 12HARMONIC SUN IS 26VI

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posted January 27, 2016 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Seimei:
Mercury rx Not over, oh phuq.
My natal Sun is Virgo.
My natal south node is 26aq07 or 27aq13 T node
My duad Sun is 26AQ47 NOT Virgo
To answer your question
Duad Moon is 1pi
But since you mention it,sort of >
the other one> D W AD,, 12HARMONIC SUN IS 26VI


Ohh got you. Cool another virgo with duad in aquarius which in your case conjuncts your southnode so aquarius must be very prevalent in your persona.

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posted January 27, 2016 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hmm:
what do you think is heavier?
duads or decans

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posted January 27, 2016 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Julz87:
Where do you guys download this software? I can't find it O_o

http://www.jcremers.com/

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posted January 27, 2016 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hmm:
what do you think is heavier?
duads or decans

I feel duads personally bc it uses the 12th harmonic...

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Ohh got you. Cool another virgo with duad in aquarius which in your case conjuncts your southnode so aquarius must be very prevalent in your persona.

Well just YEAH,
But Moon, Venus and Uranus Node in LEO, SO NATURALLY there is a draw to/from those degrees. To me south node energy is a bit like
holey tshirt> been there done that got the tshirt so long ago it is holey> And AQ is 5th
house cusp or intercepted depending on house system. So naturally I have had a few very close friends who were Aquarians ,I attract them, and I am not really impressed by them/ but there can be a conection. Duad Sun at south lunar node certainly reflects that or adds to it.

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posted January 27, 2016 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:

*You must be fiercely independent with Sun in virgo with duad in Aquarius, and with dwad in scorpio in addition to duad in aquarius perhaps very hot and hold too struggling with the desire to be on your own and keep your freedom but also to want to bond strongly with another.

I imagine that with Venus in virgo and Libra duad and Taurus dwad that you are super picky about your appearance daily, big on fashion and looking your best always.*


I do run hot and cold in relationships. I had a (very short) relationship with a Scorpio Sun - it was like check, check mate, all the time. He expected (and wanted) me to show him who I really was, but I wouldn't budge because I was expecting the same from him. It was very strange, but also very enlightening. We eventually realized we had met our equals and moved on, though I think we still have a heavy dose of respect for one another.

I do love my independence, but I also love my family more than anything (which I think shows with the Mars in Gemini/Cancer duad). I strike a weird balance of the two of them - I mostly like to be financially independent so I can help my family.

I have my own sense of style. I really, really, love art and music. Music especially, though I do have one college degree in visual arts. I like the sound of my singing voice, though I'm not sure I would ever have the guts to sing in front of another person. It's nice to see some other elements, though - Taurus, Libra, Leo, Scorpio, etc. I can definitely 'feel' them in my personality.

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posted January 27, 2016 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would a woman's moon duad be physically attracted to a mans natal mars?

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posted January 28, 2016 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
Would a woman's moon duad be physically attracted to a mans natal mars?

Yeah I have that with my partner and Grant Gustin although in his case is my Moon Dwad.

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posted January 28, 2016 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Duads are very accurate I have to say

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posted January 30, 2016 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CupOfDavid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The software isn't compatible with Mac computers.

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posted January 30, 2016 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CupOfDavid:
The software isn't compatible with Mac computers.

You can use the table I posted in the OP for the duads but you will not know the degrees unless you do it manually and the dwads you can get in astro.com! Its the 12th harmonic chart.

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posted February 01, 2016 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
Duads are very accurate I have to say


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posted February 01, 2016 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought I might post my Duads and Dwads as well

Sun: Aquarius, Duad: Aries, Dwad: Gemini
Moon: Gemini, Duad: Virgo, Dwad: Cancer
Ascendant: Scorpio, Duad: Scorpio, Dwad: Aries
Mercury: Aquarius, Duad: Aquarius, Dwad: Aries
Venus: Aquarius, Duad: Capricorn, Dwad: Pisces
Mars: Scorpio, Duad: Scorpio, Dwad: Aries
Jupiter: Pisces, Duad: Capricorn, Dwad: Aquarius
Saturn: Aries, Duad: Pisces, Dwad: Pisces
Uranus: Aquarius, Duad: Gemini, Dwad: Leo
Neptune: Aquarius, Duad: Aquarius, Dwad: Aries
Pluto: Sagittarius, Duad: Pisces, Dwad: Cancer

A lot of it I'm not sure what to say of lol.

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posted February 03, 2016 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Very Cool Electro, love your placements...

With Merc in Gemini and Duad in Virgo and Dwad in Cancer would you say you are very close to your siblings?

My Placements:

Sun in Virgo: Duad in Leo Dwad in Pisces
Moon in Pisces: Duad in Scorpio Dwad in Sagittarius
Mercury in Virgo: Duad in Pisces Dwad in Libra
Venus in Leo: Duad in Taurus Dwad in Cap
Mars in Leo: Duad in Taurus Dwad in Cap
Jupiter in Sag: Duad in Aquarius Dwad in Gemini
Saturn in Scorpio: Duad in Sag Dwad in Taurus
Uranus in Sag: Duad in Aquariu Dwad in Gemini
Neptune in Sag: Duad in Libra Dwad in Aquarius
Pluto in Libra: Duad in Virgo Dwad in Pisces

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