posted January 31, 2016 04:17 PM            

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Nah, don't worry. You're not being ungrateful. The job opportunity and your history with the place are two different things. You're having to reconcile them in your mind. I know how it feels to want to escape a place that sucks your soul (*forgive the melodrama*). Not literally, but YouKnowWhatImean!
It's a struggle coz it feels like a victory and defeat at the same time (?). Victory as in, the job, of course. On the other hand, subconscious defeat to your instincts against going back. Feels like a step back in progress, even though it isn't. It really isn't - you're still winning.

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Trust me when I say that it's not that melodramatic, lol. The place really does suck something out of the soul, a bit.

If you look at the middle of the state, that's where I'll be.

Especially with the Pisces/H8 going on, that dry heat without rain has never been my friend, in addition to the mentality.

posted January 31, 2016 04:33 PM            

I have Uranus trine Mars natally. The conjunction was more fun than I expected it to be. I felt better about myself, but then Mars rules my Sun, so that might have helped there... the square I would have had when it was in Sagittarius - again, when I was a child.

posted January 31, 2016 04:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
I think that, for part of my Uranus square Mars transit therapy, I might start a gigantic collage of dumb, annoying, yet somehow touching crap to represent my hometown.
Only half joking there...
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Yeah, it will be neat if that's the case, with reincarnation ideas. I normally wear my husband's grandma's class ring on my right hand, in sync with my grandma's ring that I wear on my ring finger (another Uranus trait that my husband and I have, we don't wear stereotypical rings).

My due date (my brain is fried, I almost typed "dudedate") is my father in-law's birthday...I'm hoping for a bit later though, lol. Shh. Don't tell anyone.

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posted January 31, 2016 04:50 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Uranus would have opposed my Juno, when I was a child. Juno is at 17*Taurus. I don't know what to think about that.

I have Uranus trine Mars natally. The conjunction was more fun than I expected it to be. I felt better about myself, but then Mars rules my Sun, so that might have helped there... the square I would have had when it was in Sagittarius - again, when I was a child.

I will also have the conjunction to my Chiron, along with the Sun. I guess I'll find out as you do. I have the opposition natally, but it's wide - Uranus is at the beginning of Scorpio in my chart, and natal Chiron is 23*Aries.

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posted January 31, 2016 04:53 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
For the first part: don't forget about voodoo dolls.

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Don't tempt my H8 BML and Scorpio Uranus.

And anyway, I'm pretty sure the townsfolk would burn me at the stake, after a good ol' fashioned torch and pitchfork wielding mob .

posted January 31, 2016 05:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
*phew* Glad.
Were both mum and baby in danger btw?

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Wild card rescue?

<Am I over-simplifying?>

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No, you got it. I was born drowning/ suffocating (8H Pisces moon square Neptune)...I was taken away to be worked on and brought back looking fine, so my mother didn't even know anything went wrong. But the doctor pulled my father aside to say it was a close call, and I almost died.

Leo rising drama queen since day one!

My mom was fine but possibly not really, as she had her tubes tied then, and I think it didn't go well.

posted January 31, 2016 09:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

Leo rising drama queen since day one!

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Faith, you should post a baby pic of yourself. I bet you were just a cute little pumpkin.

posted February 01, 2016 07:16 AM            

It's practically a non-issue, just a few tense minutes when they didn't know how it would turn out.

cchampliss
Thanks ~ I'll post a baby pic maybe, next time a baby pic thread comes around.

posted February 01, 2016 09:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Sorry - meant to quit, but wanted to answer...

No, you got it. I was born drowning/ suffocating (8H Pisces moon square Neptune)...I was taken away to be worked on and brought back looking fine, so my mother didn't even know anything went wrong. But the doctor pulled my father aside to say it was a close call, and I almost died.

Leo rising drama queen since day one!

My mom was fine but possibly not really, as she had her tubes tied then, and I think it didn't go well.

Thanks for always being interested in people, Elysia, I find that very heartening.

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Thanks for coming back to answer...! Goodness, that really was a close call. Drowning, so Neptunian. Like a macabre right of passage. Sorry about your mom, though. Like V said, glad you're here.
Sometimes this is such an inconvenient medium. The internet - detracting from sensitive moments since 1974. (JK) Still, *hugs*.

@Violets,
Lol, yeah. Leave the uncomfortable probing to me.. Most times I suffix an 'if I may' at the end, but sometimes I forget my manners.

P.S. Middle of the state, and hot n dry huh? Narrowing it down considerably. I hear ya about the dry heat - I like the damp, cool climes more. Maybe people like us would be better off in England or that fictional town in Twilight (*cough* no I didn't read it!!) - 'Forks', where it rains a lot, apparently.

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@Elysia ~ I love your "uncomfortable questions."

posted February 01, 2016 10:09 AM            

I liked it much better when I lived in the rainy part.

Faith and Ceridwen...

posted February 01, 2016 10:24 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I also had the cord around my neck. They managed to get me out of that. I was born butt first, and ended up in a hip brace - I don't know if that was for weeks or months.

Mum said that they did her epidural incorrectly, so she was still in pain up there, but her legs were numb.

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Do you have any hard aspects to your mom's Mars, Teasel?

posted February 01, 2016 10:25 AM            

My son had the cord around his neck very briefly when I had him, and I was out of my mind in pain, so I didn't really understand what the doctors were saying to me.
I'm so thankful that he is just fine.

I think I mentioned that he fractured his clavicle bone when he came out, and he had to wear a tiny little sling for a few weeks.

His Aries stellium and his Moon are all square my Mars.

posted February 01, 2016 10:26 AM            

I have Jupiter ruling my 5H so I guess I lucked out, no incidents at all with childbirth. (Except the crazy midwife who stabbed me with Pitocin for no reason the last time...but I meant, my babies were fine.)

posted February 01, 2016 10:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Aw!

I have Jupiter ruling my 5H so I guess I lucked out, no incidents at all with childbirth. (Except the crazy midwife who stabbed me with Pitocin for no reason the last time...but I meant, my babies were fine.)

God I miss babies. I'm so excited for you (!) and hoping everything goes perfectly!

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Thank you.

About the midwife...Wtf??
What is it with creepy, sadistic delivery nurses and midwives?

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I'm sorry I'm monopolizing the thread a bit here... Anyone can feel free to interrupt me, I don't mind.

posted February 01, 2016 11:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

So cute, you use the word "pumpkin."

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Pumpkin's a good word! I refer to all my nieces and nephews as little pumpkins. Even the dog, she's a furry little pumpkin.

Excited for Violets' little pumpkin soon. Fingers crossed it'll be smooth sailing!

Have a wonderful Monday all!

posted February 01, 2016 11:55 AM            

pMercury= pMoon/Uranus (mid-september)
Intuition, Excited mental activity; expecting a surprise; innovative
ideas; short trips, sudden news.

- maybe representing your stay in hospital or the coming home?

pSun = pJupiter/Uranus
great success; Sudden physical happiness, birth. (!)

pSun = pMoon/Venus (1st-2nd week in september)
Marital love, protective care of the family,
(also indicates stage performers and actors, but I eliminated those interpretations that do not seem that applicable)

pVenus = Moon/Mercury 0°00 orb!
The sense of beauty, an understanding of art, the feeling of love,
lovely thoughts.

pNeptune = nPluto/ASC 0°02s
the
experiencing of a most awkward and unfortunate situation. ight against rumour; vision to
fulfill;

this would have been precise some time before, despite the tight orb, but Neptune is just so slow. Anyway might relate to some feeling of confusion or unclarity you might experience before. But the birth itself should be uncomplicated.

pMoon = nMars/MC (3rd week september)
strong emotional excitability, An independent or excitable woman.

(also to me personally any combo of Moon-Mars-MC is a fertility/ birth-combination)

sa Moon = Venus/MC (august)
Deep feeling about romance, a warm-hearted and cordial disposition, a motherly nature, the typically female qualities. Being valued for one's work; recognition of a job well done.
a job well done!

sa Saturn = Moon/mercury (september)
The need for patience in thinking.
Difficult and slow thinking, the pursuit of gloomy or sad thoughts.
The desire to solve problems, Taking leave, a journey.

(I wonder if that simply means that you will leave the hospital and move home again?)

sa Uranus= Mars/MC (july)
The big push; the quick advance; winning right away. Rashness,
quick temper.
( abit impatient in the last month of pregnancy?)

sa Mars= Mercury/Venus (august)
Alerting the passions; making strong, emotional statements;
creativity. a physicist.

sa Mercury = Sun/Pluto (september)
Extraordinary mental projection, aspiring intellectual supremacy.
Prudence, organisation, aiming at an objective, restless creative
activity. An orator or a speaker with suggestive powers. A nerve-crisis.
(I guess there will be some intense thinking happening following the birth, maybe connected to the move?)

Tr Uranus = Moon/Neptune 0°20 s
Temperamental impulse; emotional unpredictability. The pursuit of
sudden ideas and hunches, the gift to have sudden foreboding or presentiments.

Tr Uranus = Sun/Neptune 0°09a
Sudden impressionability or even psychic awareness. Sudden upsets or
excitements, nervousness, convulsions or spasms (epilepsy). Sudden
illness or weakness, or an emotional crisis

- well, don`t read too much into the medical interpretations, they are always really gloomy (hey, I have my Sun exactly aligned with the "death-midpoint" Still here though!)-

I think it might just represent either the feeling of exhaustion after the birthing-process and/ or the sensitivity and vulnerability that will maybe trigger. I mean giving birth is such an intimate process!

Tr Neptune = ASC/Pluto 0°55a
it is interesting that your progressions repeath that, but that is due to the transiting - natal Neptune-Neptune - square, maybe some period of bewilderment or hypersensitivity is indicated

Tr Saturn = Mercury/Pluto 0°02 s
insistence of a point of view, unrelenting
demands, nagging character, irritability, scepticism. Nervous irritation
through overwork, separation

Interestingly births seem to often also contain midpoint pictures indicating "separation". Ebertin reasons this might be the case cause ther eis an actual bodily separation happening between mother and child.

Tr Jupiter = Venus/Jupiter (0°53 a)
Success in love; artistic success; philanthropy; birthing.

Well I think if your baby is NOT delivered on the 31st august, it will rather be september than early august, the midpoint pictures seem to point towards september more than early august.

Anyway I think the birth will be fine, but you might feel quite antsy before, excited and nervous and followed by a period of heavy thinking. Not quite depression, but just really deep thinking and analysing of your situation, maybe your living-arrangements or the move you mentioned.

I was pleasantly surprised though how positive your midpoint pictures are as overall, usually you get a lot more of the real scary and gloomy ones in these look ups, that is why I think everything will bre really smooth and happy during the actual birth.

posted February 01, 2016 12:46 PM            

My hometown is a place that fills me with angst and depressing memories, so I can understand that I might be feeling a little gloom and doom there, despite the happy occasion.

I am mildly concerned about the Neptune = Pluto/Asc, and the other one that indicated seizures or health problems, but...well, what can I do about that, but try to focus on the positive midpoints.

posted February 01, 2016 01:37 PM            

I like Robert Hand's book Planets In Transit, but there aren't any interpretations for Juno, Chiron, etc.

Could just be really basic stuff though, like buying a house in an area that created all of my eternal emotional wounds.

posted February 01, 2016 01:41 PM            

as for the Neptune= Pluto/ASC, no need to worry at all.
It`s already in your natal with tight orb 0°07, and it is due to Neptune turning retro that it will get exact again, but in fact it will only perfect in 2019, because yes Neptune is THAT slow.

I think this might simply represent a sort of spiritual inclination and encountering some supernatural/ paranormal phenomena or just being sensitive to those, and this is a natal trait of yours, so really nothing to worry about.

Tr Neptune will hit this midpoint also only in 2017, so it is not at all connected to the birth I think.

As for the other interpretation, well Ebertin always has the medical sickness interpretations in there, and while they sound scary, I wouldn`ßt think about them too much.
Thing is, that while IF you experience a health-condition, the fitting midpoint pictures might appear (for example YES, the Mars-SAturn-mp is often triggered in situations where someone dies), it doesn`t work backwards.

With that I mean that those "sickness indicator midpoints" will be activated throughout your life WITHOUT any kind of sign of health problems.
They will manifest in different ways (psychological for example then).

For example on 23th july-28th july last year I had sa Moon opposing Saturn/Neptune precise.

The interpretation sais:

"Emotional drain, feeling inhibited, lack of emotional maturity.
Illness through emotional suffering. Women's disorders or diseases."

I can tell you though I was most definitely NOT sick. Quite healthy as a matter of fact.