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Topic: Absent mother/father, in one's chart?
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Piscean Tigress Knowflake Posts: 119 From: Everywhere and Nowhere Registered: Sep 2014
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posted March 14, 2016 12:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95: [b]Piscean Tigress: I somewhat agree. I also have Sun opposite Pluto. My father has not been absent, but, I don't see him much. I never have, really. He's always been kind of distant with me. I believe as of recently that hopefully this is changing.I feel like the Inonjunct between Mars and the Sun could somewhat symbolize an absent father in this chart. Especially with Saturn square Chiron. Also, there is that Saturn-Mars opposition. That could be something. Especially considering Saturn is the ruler of your IC/4th house. WAIT. I can't believe I almost missed it. Neptune in the 4th. To me, that explains a lot of it. I know that is an aspect seen a lot in people who have parents who are either absent or have addictions. Pisces IC or 4th house Neptune can show a somewhat tragic home life in general. But, especially in the regards to absence and addiction.. Or, having a parent that is weak or unable to care for themselves. (Or having bad health in general)
Dear RWTS95 You are right, I forgot to write that I have this opposition in house 4th and 10th. My house 4th is heavy loaded with 3 planets (including Sun) and several asteroids (including Chiron conjunct Venus and Karma). But Pluto just aspected Sun. My Saturn is in 5th house conjunt Mars and both opposite Jupiter, I don´t have Saturn too afflicted to relate this planet witn my father.
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 2830 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 14, 2016 02:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by HCtheQueenOfWands: Anyone care to elaborate?Both of my parents were absent in childhood, my mom was working and partying and my father was sick with diabetes, was alcoholic and died in Dec 2008. I was raised basically by an abusive aunt.
For Mom and Dad I'd look at at Sun(Dad) and Moon(Mom). Mom was working and partying hmm. Sounds like a pretty self-centered individual that only cared for their own needs. Moon in Leo- Bingo. And the fact that she partied (11th house). This is the other manifestation of Moon in 11th- the mother thinking that her social life and friends are everything! Uranus widely opposes Moon. An estranged relationship with Mom- often suggesting a high level of emotional detachment. Father was sick(Sun in 6th). Often this position suggests issues with the Dad/father figure. It could also suggest that the father may have literally suffered ailments or health issues. The 6th is in-conjunct to the 1st(health centre). So the 6th is seen as an "impediment" to the 1st. Chiron trines Sun in 6th, MC in Cancer, North Node in Virgo conjunct Asc- Are you by any chance in the healing profession? I don't think your father was absent because he wanted to be. He was absent because he was dealing with his own demons(Sun in Pisces) and tried to numb them by drinking. I often see Neptune/12th house Sun in Pisces people often grapple with issues of identity(especially the males). Due to a father that was simply missing-sometimes literally. But in most cases...apathetic. Saturn/Sun suggests a strict and exacting father. Likely to be emotionally cool as well. Whilst Uranus/Sun suggests a father that was unreliable, erratic and perhaps also emotionally unavailable. That IC in Cap(cold home environment) speaks of the lack of sensitivity in the early environment. Whilst that Pluto in 3rd remembers all the hurt VIVIDLY.
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HCtheQueenOfWands Knowflake Posts: 204 From: Canada Registered: Nov 2015
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posted March 14, 2016 03:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: For Mom and Dad I'd look at at Sun(Dad) and Moon(Mom).Mom was working and partying hmm. Sounds like a pretty self-centered individual that only cared for their own needs. Moon in Leo- Bingo. And the fact that she partied (11th house). This is the other manifestation of Moon in 11th- the mother thinking that her social life and friends are everything! Uranus widely opposes Moon. An estranged relationship with Mom- often suggesting a high level of emotional detachment. Father was sick(Sun in 6th). Often this position suggests issues with the Dad/father figure. It could also suggest that the father may have literally suffered ailments or health issues. The 6th is in-conjunct to the 1st(health centre). So the 6th is seen as an "impediment" to the 1st. Chiron trines Sun in 6th, MC in Cancer, North Node in Virgo conjunct Asc- Are you by any chance in the healing profession? I don't think your father was absent because he wanted to be. He was absent because he was dealing with his own demons(Sun in Pisces) and tried to numb them by drinking. I often see Neptune/12th house Sun in Pisces people often grapple with issues of identity(especially the males). Due to a father that was simply missing-sometimes literally. But in most cases...apathetic. Saturn/Sun suggests a strict and exacting father. Likely to be emotionally cool as well. Whilst Uranus/Sun suggests a father that was unreliable, erratic and perhaps also emotionally unavailable. That IC in Cap(cold home environment) speaks of the lack of sensitivity in the early environment. Whilst that Pluto in 3rd remembers all the hurt VIVIDLY.
My mom use to be a hoe too, I blame on my sisters moon/Mars and my moon hard aspect to Venus, btw my sis has sun Sq uranus conjunct saturn. My dad was leo, mom is libra. My parents separated then remarried IP: Logged |
HCtheQueenOfWands Knowflake Posts: 204 From: Canada Registered: Nov 2015
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posted March 14, 2016 04:42 PM
I live with my cancer Venus husband to be now. My dommybear 😘😘😘IP: Logged |
Nyctea Knowflake Posts: 161 From: Registered: Dec 2015
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posted March 14, 2016 05:57 PM
It seems like i'm screwed up then I have Sun/Saturn square, Aquarius placements and an Afflicted Moon.IP: Logged |
Nyctea Knowflake Posts: 161 From: Registered: Dec 2015
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posted March 14, 2016 06:25 PM
My sister has Sun sesquisquare Saturn orb of 1. Saturn in the 12th. She's a Pisces Sun, 7th/8th house cusp. Dad is a Pisces Moon. We both have the same ASC(me and her), so our IC is in Scorpio.I'm convinced that he's a Scorpio ASC(unfortunately i don't know his birth time). My friend says a lot that he looks intimidating. It sounds like he's terrible oh God he's totally not. I love my dad. I don't like the energy coming out of him tho. If he really is a Scorpio ASC, imagine blending this with an Aries Sun and Pisces Moon. These 3 placements are the worst for me to deal with. IP: Logged |
fireopal09 Knowflake Posts: 649 From: Dallas,TX, Us Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 14, 2016 07:24 PM
I have a 28 degree Scorpio IC with 0 degree Saggi Venus which conjuncts Neptune who squares my 7H Pisces Moon. I have a 2H Libra Sun-Uranus conjunction opposite Chiron. My parents dissolved their 4 year marriage when I was 8 months old. My dad remarried and created a new family and in the typical shadow side of his Pisces stellium, he abandoned me. There are carbon copies of letters my mom sent begging for him to be a regular part of my life as well as letters to my grandparents (who were awesome)dating back to the mid 70's.
He would do well for a while and then it would be total radio silence for years. That did a number on my self worth (Sun/Uranus/Chiron anyone?)
I can't imagine the guilt he must feel and how difficult it must be for him to keep up the self deception so he can sleep at night. I learned long ago from his example that self deception is detrimental and not to succumb to the shadow side of Neptune. I own my shite.
------------------ Claire "When going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -HST IP: Logged |
deptic Knowflake Posts: 301 From: Earth, Raised on Pluto Registered: Jun 2014
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posted March 15, 2016 04:43 PM
Is it true that people who grew up without a mother and/or father end up being well off in life? what percentage is this? IP: Logged |
HCtheQueenOfWands Knowflake Posts: 204 From: Canada Registered: Nov 2015
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posted March 17, 2016 01:53 PM
I see how my early homelife is influencing my future marriage with my fiancé. I, as a pisces, never thought id marry a problematic Gemini IP: Logged |
Gladspeelbkearns Knowflake Posts: 33 From: Tiptree, United Kingdom Registered: Dec 2014
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posted March 19, 2016 03:22 PM
Interesting discussion-and I agree with whoever said we shouldn't over-analyse (in my view astrology provides a roadmap, but it's up to the individual to read it properly/find their way to their desired destination etc)That said, I have: 7th house ruler Neptune, retrograde in early Cap, conjunct my IC (29 Deg Saggi). My parents divorced when I was 5 and my biological Dad died when I was 13 in what I thought were mysterious circumstances at the time (I was only told why a couple of years back, during Pluto's last transit opposition to my Sun). At the time of his death, my prog Sun and Mars were both applying to an opposition to my natal Moon. I don't have any Sun-Pluto or Sun/Saturn aspects (in fact my Sun and Moon are both fairly well aspected), so I think that helps to mitigate it. One thing that could signal something is my Sun Mars conjunction in the 10th (Mars ruling my 8th). I read somewhere that having natal Lilith in the 8th house can signal the early death of a parent-I have this-it's square Mercury (my Asc ruler) and opposite Pluto. I also have NN in my 8th square Jupiter in the 5th and Sextyle Sun/Mars, creating a Yod with the NN as the apex (you could say it's a boomerang Yod if you include the Scorp SN). Finally Sun/Mars are the apex of another yod in my chart, with Jupiter/Uranus (in mutual reception) forming the other angles. ------------------ The world is just, a great big onion... And hate & fear are the spices that make it fly. IP: Logged |
Gladspeelbkearns Knowflake Posts: 33 From: Tiptree, United Kingdom Registered: Dec 2014
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posted March 19, 2016 03:24 PM
Interesting discussion-and I agree with whoever said we shouldn't over-analyse (in my view astrology provides a roadmap, but it's up to the individual to read it properly/find their way to their desired destination etc)That said, I have: 7th house ruler Neptune, retrograde in early Cap, conjunct my IC (29 Deg Saggi). My parents divorced when I was 5 and my biological Dad died when I was 13 in what I thought were mysterious circumstances at the time (I was only told why a couple of years back, during Pluto's last transit opposition to my Sun). At the time of his death, my prog Sun and Mars were both applying to an opposition to my natal Moon. I don't have any Sun-Pluto or Sun/Saturn aspects (in fact my Sun and Moon are both fairly well aspected), so I think that helps to mitigate it. One thing that could signal something is my Sun Mars conjunction in the 10th (Mars ruling my 8th). I read somewhere that having natal Lilith in the 8th house can signal the early death of a parent-I have this-it's square Mercury (my Asc ruler) and opposite Pluto. I also have NN in my 8th square Jupiter in the 5th and Sextyle Sun/Mars, creating a Yod with the NN as the apex (you could say it's a boomerang Yod if you include the Scorp SN). Finally Sun/Mars are the apex of another yod in my chart, with Jupiter/Uranus (in mutual reception) forming the other angles. ------------------ The world is just, a great big onion... And hate & fear are the spices that make it fly. IP: Logged |
Gladspeelbkearns Knowflake Posts: 33 From: Tiptree, United Kingdom Registered: Dec 2014
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posted March 19, 2016 03:29 PM
Woops-apologies for the double post-I've often been told I repeat myself too much!------------------ The world is just, a great big onion... And hate & fear are the spices that make it fly. IP: Logged |