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Randall
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posted July 20, 2023 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpioMango     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Reviving this thread.


I wonder how stelliums play out in terms of excitement and growth-oriented experiences..

I have a 6H Scorpio stellium plus vertex. (5 planets in Scorpio, 1 in Libra all in my 6H).

There is definitely a MAJOR imbalance.

I don't really go on adventures or explore like i see most people doing. It's hard to verbalize.. like I just feel like a bystander watching everyone else live life while i just sit back in my small little world wishing i was out there just doing.. doing something. People are expanding their horizons with new jobs, traveling, babies, etc. i'll be 30 in a few months and i feel like i haven't explored past college days. It's so hard to explain and i hope others chime in with their perspectives lol.

My point is, does anyone else feel this way? Like the area of life your stellium is in is THE area of life you're stuck in? Even if we meet someone with a more well-rounded, scattered chart, the synastry would still inevitably be concentrated due to the stellium. I've heard charts without major configurations like grand crosses, t-squares, grand trines, etc aren't too impactful or long-lasting.

What do you guys think?



I went on a date with a guy who's Aquarius stellium was in the 12H (Sun, Mars, Venus) with Saturn at 0 degrees Pisces 1H (so, pretty close to the stellium) and Moon conjunct Pluto and North Node in 9H Scorpio.

As for the stellium in the 12H - His entire world seemed to revolve around working and drinking. That's it. He travelled, but that's because he was from another country and would visit a few times a year. He was very stubborn and showed no emotion. I don't think he smiled once. He would cut me off and corrected me on everything and at one point flat-out told me I "sounded unintelligent" and that he didn't like my dress.

As a Sun conj. Chiron in Scorpio woman, I can't do small talk, I need "answers". I could see that his reality was very surface-level and when I would ask him about his childhood or family, he would say it "wasn't important" and "what does that have to do with us talking right now?". When I asked what his goals and dreams in life were, he told me they were "the same as everyone else's" and I just didn't ask further. Lots of awkward silence. He texted me asking when he would see me again and I told him I didn't think he liked me very much. His response? "I guess I do, I don't know. But when are you free?" and I never replied!

So, maybe this isn't the most reliable comment on Aquarius stelliums. But from my perspective, it appeared that the 12H had a lot of influence here. It seemed like he just kinda...lived. He make 6 figures but is so unemotional and detached from the world that I imagine the drinking must soften him. He looked physically a bit ill as well (sleep deprived?). Hope this helps lol

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posted July 20, 2023 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpioMango     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And...now I'll reply with my own stellium story!

I have Mars exactly conjunct Venus, and Pluto (not conj) all in 5H Sagittarius trine Saturn in the 9H.

First off, I'm not sure if it's a funny coincidence with Saturn but every single time I travel, no matter how well I plan, it's always a MESS! It's always chaos and unexpected obstacles, but that's what makes it so fun

Anyway, I personally feel the most growth in my life when I am in a romantic relationship, hands-down. I feel inspired, motivated, and almost want to "perform" well for my partner (Leo rising with the stellium in the 5H!). I've learned that this can be a bit of an obstacle actually, because when I'm single I can be slightly less motivated. Perhaps Pluto influences this, because every breakup I've had is a major catalyst for me to work through my struggles of codependency (chiron 4H). Relationships, dating, sex, children...all of these themes are the most important interests aside from astrology in my life. If I could just go on dates and compare them to the guy's birth chart for a living, I would LOL!

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posted August 01, 2023 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2 opposing stelliums in 6th and 12th houses. I swear I'm just living this life to clear every bit of karma I've racked up over thousands of years. I can not (and at this point won't even try anymore) live for myself. I would absolutely love to find a cave on the side of a mountain and dwell there forever, never speaking another word but alas, I am locked in tightly to situations where I must make a conscious choice to "do the right thing". Gross.

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posted August 01, 2023 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
2 opposing stelliums in 6th and 12th houses. I swear I'm just living this life to clear every bit of karma I've racked up over thousands of years. I can not (and at this point won't even try anymore) live for myself. I would absolutely love to find a cave on the side of a mountain and dwell there forever, never speaking another word but alas, I am locked in tightly to situations where I must make a conscious choice to "do the right thing". Gross.

I felt every bit of this lol.

But you know what they say, if you have a lot of energy in one house, seek out activities related to the opposing house to find balance. This suggestion hasn't worked so far for me because my 12H is rules by my Mars in 7H so I either have to suffer in the 6H to maintain my relationships....or completely un-do them and soar off in my 12H. 🤯 [You just indirectly helped me add another layer to my own madness. Thank you]

But anyway, back to my point. In your case, maybe part of you shedding karma in this lifetime is trying to find that balance between your 6H & 12H. Do you get to travel often? Do you get to do things that take you AWAY from the mundane? [I don't know your story so I apologize if I'm assuming in the wrong direction.]

I feel like people with heavy 6H & 12H influences are heavily affected by the daily humdrum.. more so than most people which is hard to understand from the outside looking in. We really need fulfilling lives or at least fulfilling activities to fill our lives or else nothing else matters.

Or if you're an intellectual type trapped in a heavy 6H/12H maybe you feel like the matrix has you pinned down. You can't access that passion/ creativity so it makes every day tasks unbearable.

Not to mention factoring in the guilt of it all. All humans naturally want to be a part of a community and family, but the mind does what the mind does.. the soul wants what the soul wants.


I hope I didn't gear off too much into left field.

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8th house stellium, Taurus Venus, Jupiter, Sun and south node. Also Gemini Mercury, but within 5 degrees of the 9th house cusp. I like slow and steady growth and change, I absolutely loathe being rushed into anything. Letting go of something I want and have set as my goal is very painful for me. Uranus in Taurus together with north node has been like a punch in the face. I had to adapt to a lot of new circumstances and I’ll survive but it has been very uncomfortable. With a stellium, a harsh transit reflects major personal turbulence.

It’s probably a karmic issue. If so much energy of a certain type is involved, it seems like a lesson that you struggle with. The curriculum is focused on that subject because you fail the exam every time.

I don’t feel like I’m a spectator. I have a lot of interests and always find a way to engage in new activities and meet new people. But I do feel like there are a lot of different chapters in my life. And a new chapter is often preceded by a crisis of some sort.

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I have a Cancer stellium in 11H trine Scorpio 3H. (Sun and Mercury is also square Pluto). I am very detached and it’s hard to get close to me because I don’t see the necessity in that. It makes me claustrophobic. I don’t want to know what dirty laundry people have! But, I do love meeting a lot of new people and keep the conversation airy and light! I don’t do clingy and I don’t do deep emotions or displays. I like the feeling of knowing people across the globe and I also take comfort in knowing that they’re “out there”, doing their thing and should I ever need help or a favor, I can give them a call, as they can with me. Some of this MIGHT be because of my Cap Moon as well but not sure.

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Or if you're an intellectual type trapped in a heavy 6H/12H maybe you feel like the matrix has you pinned down. You can't access that passion/ creativity so it makes every day tasks unbearable.


This is exactly how I feel. So much going on under the surface yet, the water looks completely still. I internalize everything because I have no way to externalize, or at least I haven't found it yet. On top of the 2 stelliums, everything that is not buried in the 12th is retrograde (excluding the moon but it's exactly conjunct Pluto). That's 6 planets in total. I've come to terms with this life being fully dedicated to karma and complete internalization of the full scope of human emotions and intuition. They are powerful in me, but they are also only for me. It's like as soon as I reach in deep to pull out something deeply personal to share with someone else, it disintegrates right in front of me. So I just keep it all in, all the knowing and feeling and just march in line with everyone else under the matrix spell.

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