posted May 06, 2016 01:26 PM            

Fixed it, & look at the angles.

4.44 ASC/DSC

posted May 06, 2016 01:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
@Faith, Beyonce's birth place is set to Houston, AR instead of TX. Without her accurate time it's not a big deal, just thought I'd point that out.

I know that Beyonce and Jay Z have a thing for the number 4 since they are both born on the 4th. Also the Roman numeral for 4-IV is their daughter's middle name Ivy. They got married on 4/4.

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posted May 06, 2016 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks Bluejay!

Fixed it, & look at the angles.

4.44 ASC/DSC

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That's a crazy coincidence! That's assuming her birth time is accurate, but 10 on the dot sounds like an approximate time.

posted May 06, 2016 01:40 PM            

Pr ASC @ 0°

posted May 06, 2016 01:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
That's a crazy coincidence! That's assuming her birth time is accurate, but 10 on the dot sounds like an approximate time.

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posted May 06, 2016 01:43 PM              

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Originally posted by theunknown:
Sun in the 1st gives leo vibe too.

Sasha Fierce might just be her scorpio moon *shrug*.

I would say that her dressing style is too colorful and polished for a cancer rising.

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posted May 06, 2016 03:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Seems they designed the perfect composite and "rectified" their charts accordingly.

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Maybe so.

I'm surprised to see the close Sun/Moon conjunction and the Venus/Mars opposition, and all those planets in the 1st. I've always thought that they're an odd couple, although they have common talents and interests. I see them as being more like a business relationship coming together to build an empire. A couple of years ago they performed "Drunk in Love" together, and it was extremely awkward to watch. It's a song about getting drunk and having sex all night, but on stage there was absolutely NO chemistry between them. They hardly even looked at each other, and the little physical contact they had seemed forced. If I didn't know who they were I would've assumed they had never been intimate. I think maybe they had a fight before the performance and were acting really cold towards one another. Or it could be the composite square from Saturn restricting the open expression of emotion/passion between them.

posted May 06, 2016 04:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:

I know that Beyonce and Jay Z have a thing for the number 4 since they are both born on the 4th. Also the Roman numeral for 4-IV is their daughter's middle name Ivy. They got married on 4/4.

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posted May 06, 2016 07:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
@Kannon McAfee, I am curious. What is your rationale to say that there is zero chance of Beyonce being Leo rising?

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Because this is what I do. My specialty is the Ascendant and rectification and I have complex information regarding it that very few astrologers have. The current practice of using the mundane formulation for the Ascendant (meeting of eastern horizon and ecliptic) is incomplete when it comes to a birth chart for a person.

There are ways of testing (in secondary progressions) anything that can be asserted astrologically. The things you list are good observations, but transits do not constitute solid evidence for a particular Ascendant sign, as the ones you listed in fixed signs can also be used as evidence for another fixed sign. Most of what you listed can also be used to point to Scorpio.

Absolute Zero chance of her being a Leo riser if the date and location of birth we have for her is accurate.

Faith, thanks for the timeline. I'll take a look at that and put it with my other notes to be sure I've not left anything out.

The Moon is not a rectification factor for her since at noon it was near 22 Scorpio. So we have to look at other things to narrow it down.

posted May 06, 2016 11:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Because this is what I do. My specialty is the Ascendant and rectification and I have complex information regarding it that very few astrologers have. The current practice of using the mundane formulation for the Ascendant (meeting of eastern horizon and ecliptic) is incomplete when it comes to a birth chart for a person.

There are ways of testing (in secondary progressions) anything that can be asserted astrologically. The things you list are good observations, but transits do not constitute solid evidence for a particular Ascendant sign, as the ones you listed in fixed signs can also be used as evidence for another fixed sign. Most of what you listed can also be used to point to Scorpio.

Absolute Zero chance of her being a Leo riser if the date and location of birth we have for her is accurate.

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posted May 07, 2016 10:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Hemilla:
Wich sign has an "alter ego" thing going on for him? I think her stage persona IS LEO - and she really likes her hair ,khm,mane - a Leo thing

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posted May 07, 2016 10:43 PM            

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Originally posted by bella_taurus:
I have to say, Beyoncé does not strike me as a Virgo. She reminds me so much of a true Leo. Like Jennifer Lopez. The way she carries herself, her lyrics, even the way she talks....everything. Whenever I think of a Virgo singer, I think of someone like Carol King, Anita Baker, or even Beck. Even though Beyoncé is a Virgo, she must have some serious Leo in her chart, even Aries. IMO.

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posted May 07, 2016 10:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
@Kannon McAfee, I am curious. What is your rationale to say that there is zero chance of Beyonce being Leo rising?

By the way, I don't believe the time of birth from IMDB is correct either. She is most definitely not Libra rising. Her Virgo side is way too apparent to be a 12th house thing.

Here are my reasons for seeing her as Leo rising:
* She calls herself or has been called Queen Bey. to me, that's a dead giveaway.
* She loves big hair, big golden hair. She is dramatic and flamboyant on stage.
* She exudes a sun-like charisma, capturing and reflecting the light around her.
* She is married to someone who looks very odd for her. But that's what having Aquarius descendant would do.
* She became pregnant and gave birth during a time when Jupiter in Taurus would have been making squares back and forth to her Leo rising, signifying weight gain.
* She gave birth when the North Node was in Sagg, which would have been her 5th house of children.
* She has 2 personalities, but she is not Gemini. 1 personality, her flamboyant Leo rising, would be what she called "Sasha Fierce."
The other personality, equally as strong since it is the ruler of her ascendant, her sun in 2nd house in Virgo is more modest and shy. She has a reputation for hard work and extreme attention to details. Her hard work and the work put in her appearance has made her very rich.
* She married Jay Z April 4, 2008. Saturn was in the early degrees of virgo, still in her 1st house, giving her gravitas, and Jupiter would have been in her 8th house. And more importantly, the North Node was in aquarius, her 7th house.

Yes, for all the above, I am curious to know why you say there is zero chance of her being Leo rising. Not saying I am 100% sure she is leo rising, but the zero chance makes no sense to me.

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posted June 19, 2017 05:01 AM            

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Originally posted by bella_taurus:
I have to say, Beyoncé does not strike me as a Virgo. She reminds me so much of a true Leo. Like Jennifer Lopez. The way she carries herself, her lyrics, even the way she talks....everything. Whenever I think of a Virgo singer, I think of someone like Carol King, Anita Baker, or even Beck. Even though Beyoncé is a Virgo, she must have some serious Leo in her chart, even Aries. IMO.

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Being a Leo Rising would put her Mars in Leo in her 1st house and she would thus exude an Arian Leonine aura in her outer persona

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posted June 19, 2017 08:44 AM            

she's a scorpio ascendant - that'll put the moon conjunct ascendant = makes her seem like a cancer asc

gives her a leo MC - she has an alter ego called 'sasha fierce' that comes out when she works and performs - she says it herself. are you guys forgetting that pretty much 90% of the clips and stuff we see of her is her working, doing her job? her MC?

in interviews and in home clips she more reserved and scorpio like but everything 'leonine' is only on stage or when shes on photoshoots

pluto her chart ruler is in the 12th house - loves astrology

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posted June 19, 2017 12:30 PM            

How many people we know that have leo ascendant or libra stellium that act like beyonce? Or have such a presence like her?Probably ZERO..you don't see many "beyonces" out there,not even close to that,not even on the media!Among us ordinary people less than ZERO.

posted June 19, 2017 02:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Isa:
There's an old rumour that she's older. Apperently she's in her 40's and it's pretty common for women in entertainment to lie about age. If you google "Beyonce Gabrielle Union age" you'll find these informations.

Also, Beyonce's own father said she's years older.

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Really?! How shocking! When and where did her father clearly say this?

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