posted June 02, 2022 03:22 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
@LovelyAries86, no I did not make that post about myself. It was actually completely the opposite and your reaction only shows that you are unwilling to look in a mirror and see your own toxic behavior. Stop trying to aggressively take down people when they don’t agree with you. Your arguments are not making any sense.

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The Truth never "makes any sense" to any pretentious phony attached to false narratives. 🙂

posted June 02, 2022 03:52 AM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:

The Truth never "makes any sense" to any pretentious phony attached to false narratives. 🙂

I didn't take you down. You took yourself down. But we can gladly agree to disagree and move on from here.

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posted June 02, 2022 04:16 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
And again zero self reflection and a desperate need to “win”. But I don’t see the need to waste any more posts on this.

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Projectors love exposing themselves. 😂

posted June 02, 2022 06:41 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
+1

I did believe her for a hot minute (years ago, when that first edited video came out), until my intuition told me to look deeper, and I did. That deeper look told me she was a liar through and through*, and as more and more evidence came out--this turned out to be true.

* Her vibe reminds me some of an ex who turned out to be a literal pathological liar.

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I did not even believe her for ONE minute. In such moments I praise my Pluto in the 1st house in conjugation with the ascendant. It's an infallible ******** and liar detector. Heard is beautiful to look at in photos and undeniably gorgeous, but the magic wears off once she opens her mouth. She's not only a liar, but manipulative and aggressive.

posted June 02, 2022 06:45 AM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
She is an absolute S O C I O P A T H.
💯💯💯

Her being Taurus Sun/Venus, I'd have guessed she'd be much more stable & kind. Wrong!!

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posted June 02, 2022 09:31 AM            

As in, most of what Meghan did was a calculated act.

posted June 02, 2022 01:21 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I’m going to add that it won’t be amber heard’s fault, if women aren’t believed in the future. It’s always been about defending men, all the time. It always will be.

If women aren’t believed now, or in the future, that’s solely on the people who refuse to believe them.

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posted June 02, 2022 01:50 PM            

"I hope that my quest to have the truth be told will have helped others, men or women, who have found themselves in my situation, and that those supporting them never give up."

posted June 02, 2022 07:00 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I’m going to add that it won’t be amber heard’s fault, if women aren’t believed in the future. It’s always been about defending men, all the time. It always will be.

If women aren’t believed now, or in the future, that’s solely on the people who refuse to believe them.

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With every new reply, I become more confused and befuddled. Starting to feel like I have entered a Twilight Zone or Black Mirror episode. Did you watch the trial at all? Did you not hear her own admission of punching him? Do you not know of her being caught in blatant lies?

Like for example, her and her legal team, went out of their way to mention a specific makeup product that she was allegedly using to cover up her bruises because of the alleged beatings. Turns out that this product did not even exist at the time that she claims she was using it. The company came out and showed evidence of this.

She has been caught in so many lies and contradictions that truly, she seems like a pathological liar. And yet you "believe" her? Literally makes no sense.

So how I am reading and translating the above is this: Heard should have won because 1. she is a woman. 2. Because we should always believe all women over all men all the time, evidence be darned. We shouldn't ever question, "hey, maybe she is lying or being deceptive?" Why, because as Shoe On Head (June) likes to say, "she's a WohMan". (I love that goofy Lass--she's a real feminist and progressive liberal btw).

Teasel, your version of feminism is extremely toxic and damaging to real feminism and to the general relations between women and men. It stems from a combo of two things. Your over attachment to and over identification with being a liberal/progressive (but never questioning that side, because of your hatred/contempt of the "other side" i.e. the red folks) and your own internal anger towards men. If you didn't have a positive relationship with your dad, you would likely be a true and full man hater through and through.

posted June 02, 2022 07:33 PM            

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Originally posted by rockwell:
I did not even believe her for ONE minute. In such moments I praise my Pluto in the 1st house in conjugation with the ascendant. It's an infallible ******** and liar detector.

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1H Plutonians Unite. 🔥🔥🔥 Same!

posted June 02, 2022 10:05 PM            

I didn't get the sense at all that PlutoWasHere was making anything about herself. I think she made some good points as well. And I agree, all people of all orientations/genders/ethnicity should have a right to speak up about abuse. But I do agree, in the corporate media it did seem like the movement became overly focused on rich white celebrity women (like Heard) and those who went before the casting couch of those like Weinstein and his ilk.

posted June 02, 2022 10:28 PM            

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Originally posted by rockwell:
I did not even believe her for ONE minute. In such moments I praise my Pluto in the 1st house in conjugation with the ascendant. It's an infallible ******** and liar detector. Heard is beautiful to look at in photos and undeniably gorgeous, but the magic wears off once she opens her mouth. She's not only a liar, but manipulative and aggressive.

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Yeah, I get that. We may be of different backgrounds though. Sometimes women are quicker to see through other women's b.s. than males can be. My body is male, and I had a close and mostly positive relationship with my mom (minus her choice of my step father). Meanwhile, I only had difficult/painful/stressful connections with male father figures. I grew up putting her and women in general somewhat on a pedestal, while doing the opposite with men. For awhile, I thought most men were immature, clueless, and kind of jerks.

It took several experiences with several different women for me to wake up and realize that women can be every bit as nasty, ego centered, mean, hurtful, slow vibratory etc as men despite that they do tend (as a general whole or higher average) to have more attunement to affective empathy then men (there are exceptions on both sides for sure though). The one ex who turned out to be a literal pathological liar really opened my eyes to all this.

But old habits and beliefs tend to die hard (and slowly). If a woman claims abuse from a man, I often want to give her the benefit of the doubt, because often she is most likely telling the truth most of the time (so says statistics), and two because of that past history/conditioning. But, I always also go within and consult my inner guidance and/or intuition.

Btw, I've never viewed women as weaker than men (except purely physically). Actually the opposite. I often got the sense that women tended to be stronger on an emotional and spiritual level (this is not as true as to the degree that I once thought. Rather I now have the view more so, that older Souls of all genders, are the ones that are stronger).

posted June 02, 2022 10:33 PM            

One of the most deranged both-sides stories I've ever seen.
Depp has admitted to having a decades-long drug and alcohol problem. Heard alleges he frequently drank to the point of blackout, hit her, then denied it the next day.
Heard used MDMA and mushrooms twice.

http://twitter.com/rottenindenmark/status/1530059982582038528?s=21&t=LQ-dZKObJeHBIcSHquvJEg

Heard's entire narrative is that Depp was a good husband when he was sober, but couldn't control his drug use. Almost every incident of violence took place when he was drinking, and when she told him the next day that he had passed out or hit her, he accused her of lying.

http://twitter.com/rottenindenmark/status/1530060762273796096?s=21&t=LQ-dZKObJeHBIcSHquvJEg

In the later stages of the relationship Heard started taking photographs of him passed out in public or in their hotel rooms because *he refused to believe that he had a problem*.

http://twitter.com/rottenindenmark/status/1530061506448072704?s=21&t=LQ-dZKObJeHBIcSHquvJEg

posted June 02, 2022 10:57 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
http://www.readthepresentage.com/p/johnny-depp-amber-heard?s=r

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Alcohol and drug addiction does not equal spousal abuse/dv.

In almost every recording I've heard of their fights 1. she is not talking to him like she is afraid of him and of being hit, abused, etc.

In fact, in most of them, she is goading him, taunting him, tearing him down, belittling him. In one recording, she is laughing like a hyena and viciously tearing him down. This is generally not what severely and habitually abused women do in relationships with men. Usually they are so filled with fear of being brutalized that they walk on egg shells. There are and have been exceptions to the rule, but they are NOT common whatsoever.

In many of the recordings he is actively trying to leave her and the situation (and often literally stating the reason why is because he doesn't want it to escalate) and meanwhile he is being scolded, mocked, begged to stay, etc, because he is leaving. Him leaving the situation very clearly either deeply upset to infuriated her.

There is literally NO evidence of him abusing her physically besides photos of alleged bruises that could have been faked with makeup. And YET, there are two big pieces of evidence that she physically abused him. She is on tape admitting that she was hitting him.

And two, there is very strong, corroborated evidence that she severed his finger with a bottle she threw at him. Actual hospital records, multiple witnesses, her own "oh shite what have I done" recording, etc. Did she mean to sever his part of his finger like that? Probably not, but she shouldn't have been chucking glass bottles at him like that.

Anybody with any ounce of holistic logic perception and analysis and objective reasoning can see through these puff pieces very quickly and easily for what they are. Politically polarizing pieces that are focused on some weird and distorted political agenda and less on the actual facts, evidence, and logic. And you go along with it because you are so automatically and knee jerk "anti right".

I'm not part of the right at all. Never have been, and have gone through my own periods/cycles of issues with same. But this, THIS conspiracy theory that you and your sources are pushing is beyond ridiculous.

You are operating from a complete fantasy land in this subject. Completely and utterly.

posted June 02, 2022 11:17 PM            

Big problem was that the picture's data indicated it was 2012, and in the England trial, she testified under oath that the physical abuse started in 2013.

She also blatantly lied about her donating all of divorce settlement money to charity.

How many major lies does she need to be caught in before you question her?

posted June 02, 2022 11:33 PM            

That is a tactic of people afraid of real debate and of questioning their own beliefs. Real debate involves specifically addressing all the above.

I get it, it is hard to admit when one is wrong. It is hard to admit when one has been conned by another. But truth is more important than these ego attachments.

posted June 02, 2022 11:59 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
Good points about minority women L.A.

I didn't get the sense at all that PlutoWasHere was making anything about herself. I think she made some good points as well. And I agree, all people of all orientations/genders/ethnicity should have a right to speak up about abuse. But I do agree, in the corporate media it did seem like the movement became overly focused on rich white celebrity women (like Heard) and those who went before the casting couch of those like Weinstein and his ilk.

Btw, PlutoWasHere also has Pluto in the First House (I think. Fairly sure).

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Thank you for acknowledging the truth behind what I stated Galactic. 👍🏾 It's a very real thing.

With Pluto - she came at me more focused on HER feelings than the feelings of the women of color who've been tossed aside from their own Movement. She's in denial about the role white women have played in this. Yet *I* am the one who needs to self-reflect for pointing it out? No.

posted June 03, 2022 12:13 AM            

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Originally posted by rockwell:
Take into account that Lilith is conjunct her Venus. Nothing nice about this combination.

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I hadn't noticed before. But a Lilith conjunction makes this make A LOT of sense!! 💯 Wild.