posted May 28, 2016 08:07 PM            

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Originally posted by FruityLlama:
Oh no really? My SO and I have this quite closely actually but maybe it is just a generational thing? These two had an age gap didnt they?

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In every couple's synastry/composite chart, there will be aspects one frowns upon. The strength of any particular aspect has to be weighted taking into consideration the houses affected, the rulerships, the orbs, the transits, and a host of other things.

I am not telling you to ignore this aspect. Do pay attention to it, because sometimes, in the throes of romance, we like to ignore red flags. I am just saying learn as much as you can about it so that you have a better idea how it plays out. and if you don't feel it affects your relationship, then dismiss it.

posted May 28, 2016 08:07 PM              

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Originally posted by Belage:
I just read that Amber blames his actions on drug and alcohol abuse.

In his natal, I see Neptune quincunx his Sun and sextile his moon. That could account for a tendency to substance abuse but I am not convinced. Though it's possible that Neptune transit to his 8th house of Pisces is bringing substance abuse into his life.

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posted May 28, 2016 08:14 PM            

Their names are conjunct as you can see.

Her Johnny 19 Scorpio
His Amber 18 Scorpio (opposing Pluto)

Her draconic sun on his draconic Dejanira. Her dr Nessus on his dr Neptune.

posted May 28, 2016 08:26 PM            

6 Scorpio Pluto
6 Aries Mercury
6 Gemini Black Moon Lilith

Pluto widely opposes her 8 Taurus Pholus, on that composite Dejanira-Amber conjunction.

posted May 28, 2016 08:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
I'm holding back my opinions, because I don't know the whole story.

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Me, too.

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Heard filed for divorce on May 23, 2016.[61][62] On May 27, 2016, Heard filed for and obtained a domestic violence restraining order against Depp, alleging that he had abused her on May 22, 2016; she provided pictures of her battered face as evidence.[63]

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Nessus-Mercury in Cancer opposing Saturn on his moon and her Mars. Squared by transiting Ceres in Aries. Transiting Mercury conjunct pr comp Amber at 14 Taurus.

Transiting Dejanira @ 3 Taurus conjunct her sun at the time of the incident. There was a transiting sun (1-2 Gemini)/Mars (1-2 Sag) opposition hitting his Nessus @ 2 Gemini.

So, transiting sun conjunct his Nessus, transiting Dejanira conjunct her sun. Interesting.

posted May 28, 2016 08:52 PM            

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Originally posted by stillatlarge:
I don't believe a word of it. If it's true, I think she took advantage of the stress he's under and deliberately pushed his buttons. That's my reading of her face and all that Aries. It's funny he's never been like that before now with any of his wives or girlfriends. Never a hint of it anywhere and he did drugs and drank then so I don't believe that and the pictures don't support the claims. That thing on her cheek looks more like a zit than an injury. There was nothing visible when the cops were there and nothing in the smiling pic with her girlfriends. I think he got played.

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He broke everything in a hotel room when he was with Kate Moss. This is back when he was young. After years of substance abuses, your brain is damaged and obsessive tendencies as well as fixation on certain ideas can get very bad, even with people without substance abuses. I've seen quite a few substance abusers who became sobers in their 50s and yet their brains are permanently damaged you can tell in their behaviors and personality.

Something else too is that she broke engagement with him the first time around and he wooed her back. So I don't think she married him for money or attention. I do think that her sun in Taurus and Mars in Capricorn however make her very exacting when she's angry and if she sued him for alimony purely to rub it all in, I wouldn't be surprised.

posted May 28, 2016 08:54 PM            

I their composite, Pluto oppose Jupiter which is quite often a marker for jealousy, that one person's sense of expansion brings out control issues in another.

posted May 28, 2016 09:02 PM            

That's interesting, Pluto-Jupiter...makes sense, but I've never noticed before.

Their composite NN 10 Gemini
Composite Neptune on the SN
Square transiting Neptune
Square his Pluto

posted May 28, 2016 09:02 PM              

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Originally posted by Faith:
Me, too.

[QUOTE]Heard filed for divorce on May 23, 2016.[61][62] On May 27, 2016, Heard filed for and obtained a domestic violence restraining order against Depp, alleging that he had abused her on May 22, 2016; she provided pictures of her battered face as evidence.[63]

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Transiting Nessus, pr Juno, and the pr composite sun forming a water grand trine. [/QUOTE]

posted May 28, 2016 09:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by FruityLlama:
[b] Oh no really? My SO and I have this quite closely actually but maybe it is just a generational thing? These two had an age gap didnt they?

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In every couple's synastry/composite chart, there will be aspects one frowns upon. The strength of any particular aspect has to be weighted taking into consideration the houses affected, the rulerships, the orbs, the transits, and a host of other things.

I am not telling you to ignore this aspect. Do pay attention to it, because sometimes, in the throes of romance, we like to ignore red flags. I am just saying learn as much as you can about it so that you have a better idea how it plays out. and if you don't feel it affects your relationship, then dismiss it.

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Ohh yes of course, i was thinking just about pluto, i know saturn is quicker aha

Yes thats true, i need to keep reminding myself that astrology is not just about isolating stuff, it always depends on other stuff but i will research this aspect more especially because its close.

posted May 29, 2016 05:01 AM              

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
I'm holding back my opinions, because I don't know the whole story.

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posted May 29, 2016 05:05 AM              

@the unknown,
That makes a lot of sense. Substance abuse does leave lasting damage and it might show itself in such behaviour.

posted May 29, 2016 05:54 AM            

Here are a few quotes from Johnny Depp...

"I still have a Hellish temper. I mean, it's diminished a little, but rage is still never very far away. Once again, there's nothing I would stop at. It's a hideous place to go but sometimes a necessary place."

About his substance abuse, and the problems it caused...

"There's been many times when I've teetered on the brink of absolute madness, and unfortunately, once I go, I go, so I count on Vanessa to talk me down. And it takes some serious f###ing reeling in to bring me back to three-dimensional reality. But it's not anywhere near as disturbing as it used to be. With age, you do mellow in certain areas."

It's not right for people that only know Johnny Depp's public image to automatically accuse her of lying. My ex of 15 years attacked me twice while in an uncontrollable rage. It was totally out of character, and if I had told people close to us they would've thought I was lying.

posted May 29, 2016 06:39 AM            

I agree. And given her chart and his ex, one can see the difference. Vanessa has a cancer moon. Amber has a Libra moon, which is a lot less sympathetic. In fact she might see his anger, as she stated at court, as delusional and illogical. Kate has a Scorpio moon and my guess is that hotel room episode has something to do with her Scorpio moon nature.
Winona is a Pisces moon so he seems to in the past date mostly water moon women and more often with an earth sun.

posted May 29, 2016 07:22 AM            

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Originally posted by stillatlarge:
I don't believe a word of it. If it's true, I think she took advantage of the stress he's under and deliberately pushed his buttons. That's my reading of her face and all that Aries.

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I don't think that's an Aries thing, at all.

posted May 29, 2016 07:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Belba:
She has evidence. And yet people keep on defending him, saying she is lying, provoked him etc. Geez, we haven't seen that before. No wonder it's hard for women to speak out about abuse. Thank god she has strong placements in her chart, so she didn't put up with his crap any longer and is brave enough to be exposed to unfair accusations. So what if he's a "brilliant" actor, it doesn't mean we can forgive his abhorrent behaviour... (Hollywood has no morals, pedophilia, Woody Allen celebrated etc.) Also substance abuse is never an excuse. There's a lot of internalized misogyny at work here, I see... number of women who experience domestic, partner abuse on the world level is 1:3, that is real and you can keep lying to yourselves that men are saints... of course she is lying, filthy lying b**ch, just as every woman.

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posted May 29, 2016 07:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
He has talked about some of his issues before, so I'm inclined to believe Amber. I think she should move on and not go after him for money. That makes her look bad, considering they have been married for such a short time.

The fact is that no one knows the true inner dynamics between two people, except for the couple themselves. Also certain people can bring out different emotional reactions in others, and they have some harsh aspects between them. Even if his ex's were never attacked by him, it doesn't mean that it's impossible for him to have done it to Amber.

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