posted May 29, 2016 08:12 AM              

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Originally posted by Bluejay:

Also certain people can bring out different emotional reactions in others

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posted May 29, 2016 08:44 AM              

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Originally posted by Belba:
She has evidence. And yet people keep on defending him, saying she is lying, provoked him etc. Geez, we haven't seen that before. No wonder it's hard for women to speak out about abuse. Thank god she has strong placements in her chart, so she didn't put up with his crap any longer and is brave enough to be exposed to unfair accusations. So what if he's a "brilliant" actor, it doesn't mean we can forgive his abhorrent behaviour... (Hollywood has no morals, pedophilia, Woody Allen celebrated etc.) Also substance abuse is never an excuse. There's a lot of internalized misogyny at work here, I see... number of women who experience domestic, partner abuse on the world level is 1:3, that is real and you can keep lying to yourselves that men are saints... of course she is lying, filthy lying b**ch, just as every woman.

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We're still a very sexist world, and society. I'm a guy by the way.

posted May 29, 2016 10:17 AM            

I haven't said anything bad about Amber.

Though I agree with Bluejay, sometimes relationship dynamics just bring out the worst in people.

I don't want to vilify Johnny Depp just because he apparently made a mistake.

posted May 29, 2016 10:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
@Faithy,
Thanks for posting those charts! Some of those connections are freaky.

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posted May 29, 2016 10:49 AM              

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Originally posted by Faith:
I don't mean to be victim shaming by refraining from commenting.

I haven't said anything bad about Amber.

Though I agree with Bluejay, sometimes relationship dynamics just bring out the worst in people.

I don't want to vilify Johnny Depp just because he apparently made a mistake.

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posted May 29, 2016 11:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I don't mean to be victim shaming by refraining from commenting.

I haven't said anything bad about Amber.

Though I agree with Bluejay, sometimes relationship dynamics just bring out the worst in people.

I don't want to vilify Johnny Depp just because he apparently made a mistake.

I hope he publicly owns up to it, apologizes, and gracefully takes whatever punishment he gets, if he indeed deserves that. I could actually imagine him doing that. He's done a lot of honorable things in the past. For instance I admired him for pushing so hard for the release of wrongly-convicted Damien Echols.

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I didn't think you were. I wasn't going to comment further, until I read the rest of the thread. It just reminded me of things.

posted May 29, 2016 11:03 AM            

@teasel ~ You have my empathy....

posted May 29, 2016 11:45 AM              

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Originally posted by teasel:
I didn't think you were. I wasn't going to comment further, until I read the rest of the thread. It just reminded me of things.

My relationship dynamics were a sjster who didn't think she needed to control her temper around me, and people who thought I didn't need help, or that I'd invited it somehow (when I hadn't, and was trying to be an adult). She controlled herself around almost everyone else, so they would think she's this pristine, sweet little person, who never does a thing wrong.

If it was an accident, and she was trying to use it against him, I'd be ****** , because it makes things worse for people who have really dealt with that sort of thing. My dad once threw a shoe, in anger, and it accidentally hit me - no problem there, although he felt terrible.

I'll edit this out in a while. I'm not in good mood, so if that's coming out in my posts, it isn't directed at anyone here.

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posted May 29, 2016 11:57 AM            

There's an odd description of some of the alleged events in which depps manoeuvred her on the floor and then repeatedly runs at her, telling her to get up and taunting. That sounds very much like Mars though he's moon - I'm gonna speculate it is true and he's perceiving antagonism and projecting it back.

Even so, i can't stand when abusive incidents are used in a particular way against someone. Physical abuse is awful but intent and cruelty and power matter and can be wielded by either party in different ways.

posted May 29, 2016 12:39 PM            

Although I think in every argument both sides bring aggression to the table, and it's insulting to think a woman can't bring her own and just helplessly exist, abuses are never excused.
Reading from JD interviews and quotes from the past, it seems he has a reputation of a temper and that was how he dealt with as a child. He had a very rough childhood. But it's visible how he looked now compared to maybe even 7 years ago that substance abuses are getting to him.

And I also think once children reach teenage phase, sometimes the parents do let loose...

posted May 29, 2016 12:49 PM            

As for Amber Heard, my deepest support goes out to her. I know how hard it is to speak up against an abuser, I wish I had done it a million times. I'm glad to see she has strong placements in her chart, unfortunately my Libra rising makes me shy away from these types of situations. As for Johnny Depp, people make mistakes and as long as he asks for forgiveness from his ex and tries to right his wrongs than I believe he can be forgiven. Hell I've forgiven my abusive parents many times and they are still a big part of my life because I love them. My mother never said sorry but she has untreated mental illness so she's not in the right mindset.

To all the survivors of abuse, remember that just because a 20 dollar bill is crumpled, that doesn't mean it's worth decreases, no matter what happens it's still a 20 dollar bill.

(Okay I'm done with my rant)

posted May 29, 2016 02:20 PM              

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I come from a domestic violence home and abusive parents, along with intimate partner violence. The thing is the synastry with all these people are all different, even though Pluto square Sun (with my mom) is an abuse aspect, some things just cannot be shown by astrology. That's the universe basically telling you to think outside the box.

As for Amber Heard, my deepest support goes out to her. I know how hard it is to speak up against an abuser, I wish I had done it a million times. I'm glad to see she has strong placements in her chart, unfortunately my Libra rising makes me shy away from these types of situations. As for Johnny Depp, people make mistakes and as long as he asks for forgiveness from his ex and tries to write his wrongs than I believe he can be forgiven. Hell I've forgiven my abusive parents many times and they are still a big part of my life because I love them. My mother never said sorry but she has untreated mental illness so she's not in the right mindset.

To all the survivors of abuse, remember that just because a 20 dollar bill is crumpled, that doesn't mean it's worth decreases, no matter what happens it's still a 20 dollar bill.

(Okay I'm done with my rant)

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Was it physical or mental abuse?

posted May 29, 2016 02:37 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
Abuses can happen on many levels, not just physically.

Although I think in every argument both sides bring aggression to the table, and it's insulting to think a woman can't bring her own and just helplessly exist, abuses are never excused.
Reading from JD interviews and quotes from the past, it seems he has a reputation of a temper and that was how he dealt with as a child. He had a very rough childhood. But it's visible how he looked now compared to maybe even 7 years ago that substance abuses are getting to him.

And I also think once children reach teenage phase, sometimes the parents do let loose...

Even if Amber Hward is after his money, people don't typically just make up these stories. The extensive court process and public attention do not last one day.

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I agree with you, great points. However I still like to maintain the stance of, we just don't know.

I know nothing about her and have never actually seen her move before. 'Was just browsing for videos of them together to observe their dynamic and found this:
http://www.celebuzz.com/2015-10-28/johnny-depp-pranks-amber-heard/

Where she swears, gives the finger, and smacks people.

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When she found out she was being overhauled, she was obviously stunned. “I’m blown away! I’m speechless,” she said, hitting both her husband and dad. “I can’t believe all of this.”

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posted May 29, 2016 02:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Mergoatsun

Wishing you healing.

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Thank you for the support Faith, it really means a lot at this time. I am trying to keep my head up, and I want to channel my pain into helping others in similar situations. So that's why I want to go into medicine or psychology.

posted May 29, 2016 02:49 PM              

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Sulkyarcher, (TW: abuse descriptions) my parents abused me physically,emotionally and psychological, but my mom more so and she was very good at psychological abuse, they also neglected me and left me alone at very young ages. My parents in terms of domestic violence were all three as well. I had intimate partner violence of rape and sexual assault, along with emotional abuse and psychological abuse.

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Your mother sounds like she may have extreme bipolar disorder. Not an excuse I know, but she must have those rare mental illnesses that a person is so deeply sick, that they aren't themselves anymore.

posted May 29, 2016 02:59 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I don't think that's an Aries thing, at all.

I'm also holding back my own opinions, until more is known. I thought she was cold, when I read that she filed for divorce just days after he lost his mother, and was also asking for something like $50,000 a month in spousal support. Then I see this, and having been on the receiving end of some violence, I can believe it. People say she looked fine a day or two after - she might have had good makeup, and covered it up. A friend apparently called the police for her that night.

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posted May 29, 2016 03:04 PM            

Second of all: The chick is a liar and inconsistent about what she is saying. I think she has some mental problems. Nobody in his right mind would say that a man abused a woman when he wasn't even around. LOL. Also... the LAPD officers found her without any bruises of her face. The story is just shady and I have no doubt about his innocence.

Now... I knew this crucial moment would come for him. It's not that karma got him after separating from Vanessa and his kids but he needed to learn something important. Not to fear what is real and not to trust what is not real.