posted March 13, 2020 12:23 AM            

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http: //www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3618039/Defiant-Amber-Heard-says-never-wanted-report-Johnny-Depp-domestic-abuse-claims-FORCED-police-stop-smearing-character.html

The bodyguards have been interviewed by police apparently and said they heard them arguing and then she screened "stop beating me" so they run in the room and found her by the couch and him in the kitchen area about 20f away. There was no beating. They also said that during their whole mariage it was her always screaming and throwing fits at him and having mad temper. Not him. Their works. They will testify during the court hearing in June. Amber you re gone too far stop the charade or all the money you re gonna get is going to pay your enormous bills and your staff. Pathetic woman and for sure no hero because real victim don't self proclaim themself hero either.

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posted March 13, 2020 12:15 PM            

I think that having Saturn in the 7th house may make somebody more controlling of their long-term partner, and control is the basis of abuse. So, I can see why Johnny has gone through episodes of rage in relation to his more serious relationships. In these stories, he never hit his partner instead he beat the room around her. I would consider this abuse. even though its not physical, it can be emotionally scarring.

His Saturn in the 7th house is squared by their venus/mercury-venus conjunction, where the composite sun is located too. So, i think that deep karmic love-hate connection is a huge basis of their relationship.

A tight sun, venus conjunction in the composite; I'm sure there was an intense spark between them when they first met. So when people say that she's only with him because of his money, I dont get it.

In Johnny's natal, I see Uranus conjunct mars which can lead to anger issues but i think that this aspects opposition to chiron helps him realize how horrible and terrifying his anger can be. This mars opposite chiron helps him delve into himself when explosive episodes happen.

I've noticed in the news that Amber chases him when Johnny goes to be alone to cool off, which exacerbates the problem. Since her Ceres is where Johnny's uranus-mars is, it seems to me that she tries to be nurturing at the most inopportune times.

Also, I read that Amber has Lie in connection to Dejinera and Nessus. I would never read an aspect like that as if one of them was lying about the abuse, i would read it as somebody who will gaslight. Which is a form of abuse. I think that is what most people are picking up on when they see her "accusing" him of abuse. That she is forcing the situation to make it all of his fault without taking in consideration of her own actions. From the calls that ive heard (i understand that's just a piece of the entire puzzle, she was telling him that nobody cares about him or will love him. That's gaslighting and emotional abuse.

posted July 08, 2020 01:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Charmander1761:
I think that having Saturn in the 7th house may make somebody more controlling of their long-term partner, and control is the basis of abuse.

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Agreed. Control is not love. It is about power.

posted April 16, 2022 01:47 AM            

She(Vanessa) married a Can Sun, Moon Tau Asc Leo/Can cusp after him. Apparently she likes Leo energy.

And he(Johnny Depp) decided that he wanted a little more "action" in his life. Enter Amber Heard (Sun Tau/Moon in Libra with Pluto opposing Sun to offset that sweet Tau nature). Be careful what you wish for. Coz you just might get it👌🏿.

Brad Pitt(ASC sag/Sun Sag-So cusp/Moon Cap) cheated on Jennifer Aniston(Asc lib, Moon in Sag/Sun in Aqua) because he felt "bored" in the marriage. Enter Sun in Gem/Moon in Aries/Cancer Asc Angelina Jolie(Plu opp Moon/Mars) to "spice" things up for him.

It is often said that girls don't choose the good guys because they like "projects"? Seems to me like guys are the same.They like dealing with difficult women more than they do "issue free" ones.

So next time a guy says he is "bored" with his stable relationship. Just know that he is actually looking for the Pluto experience. And both Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp most certainly found it.

Johnny Depp is going through his 2nd Sat return with trans Neptune squaring his Sun(separating). I suspect there could be a "loss"or some sort of whiplash I.e "who am I really" incurred from the aftermath of this trial. A sense of being tired and feeling confused about the self.

With the retrograde motion of trans Saturn to his natal 8th, he may have to cover the costs of the lawsuit or suffer (career-wise) with studios distancing themselves from him.

posted April 16, 2022 09:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Charmander1761:

In Johnny's natal, I see Uranus conjunct mars which can lead to anger issues but i think that this aspects opposition to chiron helps him realize how horrible and terrifying his anger can be. This mars opposite chiron helps him delve into himself when explosive episodes happen.

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posted April 16, 2022 09:49 AM            

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Originally posted by sashavittoria:
This is such a great insight, Charmander. Johnny's behavior sounds exactly like my former husband's, and I checked his chart again and yep... Mars conjunct Chiron, opposite Uranus. Mars/Chiron in Aries in the 4th. He would never hurt me but would destroy things around me in the room.

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posted April 17, 2022 09:10 AM            

I don't watch much American TV so I'm not familiar with Johnny Deep and Amber.

posted April 17, 2022 11:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Johnny Depp(Asc Leo/Can cusp, Gem Sun, Cap moon) left Vanessa Paradis(Cancer moon/Cusp of Sag/Cap Sun/ Asc in Sco) because he was "bored".🤷🏿‍♂️

She(Vanessa) married a Can Sun, Moon Tau Asc Leo/Can cusp after him. Apparently she likes Leo energy.

And he(Johnny Depp) decided that he wanted a little more "action" in his life. Enter Amber Heard (Sun Tau/Moon in Libra with Pluto opposing Sun to offset that sweet Tau nature). Be careful what you wish for. Coz you just might get it👌🏿.

Brad Pitt(ASC sag/Sun Sag-So cusp/Moon Cap) cheated on Jennifer Aniston(Asc lib, Moon in Sag/Sun in Aqua) because he felt "bored" in the marriage. Enter Sun in Gem/Moon in Aries/Cancer Asc Angelina Jolie(Plu opp Moon/Mars) to "spice" things up for him.

It is often said that girls don't choose the good guys because they like "projects"? Seems to me like guys are the same.They like dealing with difficult women more than they do "issue free" ones.

So next time a guy says he is "bored" with his stable relationship. Just know that he is actually looking for the Pluto experience. And both Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp most certainly found it.

Johnny Depp is going through his 2nd Sat return with trans Neptune squaring his Sun(separating). I suspect there could be a "loss"or some sort of whiplash I.e "who am I really" incurred from the aftermath of this trial. A sense of being tired and feeling confused about the self.

With the retrograde motion of trans Saturn to his natal 8th, he may have to cover the costs of the lawsuit or suffer (career-wise) with studios distancing themselves from him.

This trans Sat will make an opposition his Ura in 2nd house.Possible chunk of money lost-JUST.LIKE.THAT.🤷🏿‍♂️

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posted April 17, 2022 11:49 AM            

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Such an interesting point and patterns noticed. It's too bad that they can't have an honest open conversation with their spouse about getting bored and wanting to spice things up. I certainly don't know the whole story, but I can't believe people would rather ditch/cheat than have an honest uncomfortable conversation with current partner.

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posted April 17, 2022 01:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
Such an interesting point and patterns noticed. It's too bad that they can't have an honest open conversation with their spouse about getting bored and wanting to spice things up. I certainly don't know the whole story, but I can't believe people would rather ditch/cheat than have an honest uncomfortable conversation with current partner.

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posted April 19, 2022 02:56 AM            

But Johnny made "Amber Turd" jokes after that incident (in typical Gemini style to downplay the sheer absurdity of that act)

I think they both LOVE the drama of it all. Mistaking tension in their relationship for passion.

Johnny Depp has Mars in 2nd.He works hard for the money. But it tends to fluctuate. With Uranus/Pluto and Mars there , he may make a huge fortune, then spend it all in one swoop.

He takes a lot of chances when it comes to his income. So because it's not stable, HE himself may not be stable because 2nd house is our sense of physical security.

Maybe he likes the fluctuation and the adrenaline that he gets from having to gamble and take chances? Then win it all back? Whatever it is, he definitely is not about a "hum drum" life. He likes the adrenaline of it all.

posted April 19, 2022 08:16 PM            

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I think they both LOVE the drama of it all. Mistaking tension in their relationship for passion.

Johnny Depp has Mars in 2nd.He works hard for the money. But it tends to fluctuate. With Uranus/Pluto and Mars there , he may make a huge fortune, then spend it all in one swoop.

He takes a lot of chances when it comes to his income. So because it's not stable, HE himself may not be stable because 2nd house is our sense of physical security.

Maybe he likes the fluctuation and the adrenaline that he gets from having to gamble and take chances? Then win it all back? Whatever it is, he definitely is not about a "hum drum" life. He likes the adrenaline of it all.

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Agreed. From a Gem male perspective.

I always see Taurus females like forbidden fruit. The temptation and attraction is there..just be ready for the poison after your first bite.

So if you are into the adrenaline of it all you whould take the bite into the forbidden fruit.

I also think Johnny got to ahead of himself..thinking he'd be easy to control her.

Very easy for anything to go to a Geminis head and think there on top of the world...then get a quick dose of reality when there not.

posted April 20, 2022 01:43 AM            

I find it interesting that Johnny has Saturn in Aqua as the ruler for his Moon and Venus in Tau as the final dispositor for all his other planets including the Asc/Ic and Mc.

Sat in Aqua in the 7th(accidental exaltation) is imo his dominant planet. Ven in Tau is strong but I think because of its position in the 10th(not the 7th) diminishes its power a little.Well,atleast when compared to Saturn.

His appearance has always been kinda "bony" to me(typical of Saturn as it gives an amazing bone structure). This is especially so when we look at his pictures in his younger years. And he likes eccentric, dark things-this to further reiterate the Saturn in Aqua influence.

posted April 20, 2022 10:01 AM            

Johnny testified that his mother was abusive and his dad was stoic and endured all the abuse from his mom. When his dad left, he thought it was cowardly when he was young. Now he realizes it was the right thing to do.

His relationship with Amber seems to have reflected his parents dynamic - and he did not seem to learn anything from it. He acted just as stoic and endured abuse himself. Saturn in 7th house lessons.

All the people I know with Saturn in 7th received hard lessons through relationships with others...

posted April 20, 2022 08:36 PM            

Depp absolutely said some unacceptable things out of anger, and he seemed to destroy items around the room without intentionally hurting other people, but to me it reads like unresolved pain leaking out through anger after being triggered somehow (by others or himself).

Amber, on the other hand, seems like a delusional and emotionally/physically abusive megalomaniac obsessed with fame and her public image. All her other serious relationships have been with women, only sexual flings with men. I think she used Depp to boost her image. The testimony from the former assistant says a lot, and so do the audiotapes.

As a slight blond female myself I know how people look at me and assume I'm innocent, naive, fragile, vulnerable, couldn't/wouldn't hurt a fly, etc. They have no idea how much power I have or how I could hurt people. (Not that I'm the she-hulk here.) Women are abusers too. Men are victims too. I'm not saying the situation is black and white but it's upsetting to see such blatant sexism and there is a big difference between saying some nasty things out of anger and throwing a vodka bottle at someone that causes them to almost lose a f***ing finger.

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Agreed. From a Gem male perspective.

I always see Taurus females like forbidden fruit. The temptation and attraction is there..just be ready for the poison after your first bite.

So if you are into the adrenaline of it all you whould take the bite into the forbidden fruit.

I also think Johnny got to ahead of himself..thinking he'd be easy to control her.

Very easy for anything to go to a Geminis head and think there on top of the world...then get a quick dose of reality when there not.

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