posted July 07, 2016 05:15 PM            

Also cap placements?

posted July 07, 2016 05:51 PM            

I know I am a Scorp, I dated a fellow Scorp once and he did this - it ended the relationship.

posted July 07, 2016 06:27 PM            

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Originally posted by misspriss:
This is my pet hate...being Scorpio everything, I like to "know" and when people withdraw/ shut down I really don't like it.

Which aspects do you think this is common for?

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Asc or Moon in water signs. Asc/Moon in hard aspect to Saturn/Pluto. Heavy Lunar/Venusian charts.

posted July 07, 2016 06:47 PM              

not necessarily withdraw.

just get away from you.

posted July 07, 2016 09:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Asc or Moon in water signs. Asc/Moon in hard aspect to Saturn/Pluto. Heavy Lunar/Venusian charts.

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Asc in Scorpio, Moon conjunct Saturn

posted July 08, 2016 06:08 AM              

I will often withdraw if I feel the interaction is too draining, or if I feel that the person is prodding too much into my personal life or feelings I don't think they've earned the trust to hear about.

posted July 08, 2016 11:06 AM            

Scorpio ascendant, conjunct Uranus. I guess I'm sort of like a Jack in the Box, with my Aries Sun, and Gemini Moon/Venus, too.

I've been quieter recently, and at the hospital, if my dad is with mum, and I'm in the waiting room or cafeteria, I'll watch something on my tablet, to shut out the noise/conversations.

posted July 08, 2016 11:43 AM              

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Originally posted by misspriss:
What happens after you are done withdrawing? what can help you to come out of it?

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Usually, it's a person I withdraw from, not life in general (although I'm a bit of a recluse to begin with, to some degree).

It doesn't take much for me to withdraw from people individually, but when I do reach that point with people, it takes a bit for me to willingly interact with them again.

There has to be some demonstration that they're not going to do whatever it was that caused me to back off to begin with.

Things that cause me to withdraw from people are too much energy/drama, if they're constantly complaining about things that I think they should take some responsibility for to change, or if I feel put on the spot too often with nosy questions, etc.

Or, as I have Pluto in H3, I will usually cut ties with people whose political beliefs really offend me. I realize that's not particularly open minded, but...whatever. I can't be bothered with the amount of anger and passion that boils up in me when I have to argue politics with someone.

For example, with family members... I will back way off from interacting with them if they push politics or personal questions at me (I have a few members who seem to enjoy doing this). My personal life is my personal life, and if I want to talk about it, I will.

If, after a bit of time has passed, we can have a fun, light-hearted interaction with each other, I will be pretty happy to hang out with them again, although usually still a bit wary.

posted July 08, 2016 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by meyray:
Ironically Scorpios are kings in this lol

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posted July 08, 2016 05:58 PM            

Aquarius/Uranus shuts down in confrontation or any situation they do not want to deal with. can be very cold and stubborn
Ive noticed leo can do the same but it comes from a different place, one of my best friends is a leo, with his leo moon conj sun with cancer rising so maybe its why he withdraws also.. but if he is insulted in anyway or someone is rude or maybe just "harmless" criticism, he will just be silent and walk away or being entirely cold, completely withdraws into himself then later regrets it because he doesn't like showing that others effect him due to his pride.

scorpio/pluto when really hurt will be cold as ice too, or when the emotions are getting too intense theres a need to withdraw otherwise they will lash out with sharp words, them like all the water signs I think need space to recenter their emotions, so they withdraw. especially to protect themselves..

Taurus can hold a grudge a give the silent treatment for a loooong time too.. when I was 14 I got in trouble and hung up on my Taurus uncle.. man, he probably held that against me for 6+ years.. until we finally talked about it and I explained to him what had happened to me that day and why I did what I did. My scorpio mom with Taurus cusp moon too will never forget a slight, doesn't matter how many years its been either, they both will give the silent treatment/ act like you don't even exist. the emotions are just as strong as when they were received.

posted August 29, 2020 11:09 PM            

Sometimes transits influence this I feel. Uranus is transiting my 12th house.
This transit is giving me an attitude of "does anyone mind if I just MIND MY OWN BUSINESS!?"

I withdraw if I am just not vibing with a person, and I've tried. And when I am not talking or putting effort in anymore. It really makes a statement to people. It usually gives the person the message of."I have tried, and you give me nothing to work with, so it's your turn to try now if my silence makes you uncomfortable."

I also "shut down" if someone is just so overbearing and I have to work with them, and I don't want to go there with how annoyed they are making me feel.

So if I am withdrawn it is either because I am POed. I am only happy quiet if I had an "edible." I am also quiet if I just woke up even on the weekends.

Dating is a whole other thing. I have got to a place where I can be comfortable in dating/relationships with out communicating for a whole day. I use to freak out if I didn't get attention for four hours in the past.
Well in my relationship my fiance has a lot of "detached" elements. Mostly earth and then air. Pluto is the only water in their chart. Sun and IC, and S.Node is the only fire.
My thing that gets to me is staring at phones on food dates. I eat ice cream very slow so when he is done he would stare at his phone....like scrolling reddit. I finally blurted out "What is so G**d*** important!?"
I've gotten the message across in calmer ways too. Like I told him I don't want to come with him to dog sit at his sisters over the weekend, and that I prefer to be in my own place in my free time. He look it personal. I finally said "that's funny that you want me there, because usually when I go over there with you just look at your phone the whole time."
So these days the style of withdrawing that peeves me the most is starring at a phone too much. There is a time and a place. It sends a message of I am invisible or you are invisible. I think if you do spend a lot of time around a person it's okay to look at the phone a little bit, I know I need to. But in a social setting, or even at home for hours on end is insulting to the other person. I like to stare at my phone too, but how can people spend half of their day looking at a phone!?

I have Scorpio Moon Conjunct Pluto
Mercury in the 12th house
Neptune and Uranus in the 8th house.

posted August 29, 2020 11:45 PM            

If I also don't give her enough attention she sends me texts about how she just bought alcohol.

I could also tell she was mad that I had to end talking with her because my boss was calling me.

posted August 30, 2020 09:37 AM            

When there are very close, significant aspects to these planets in the synastry chart... this kind of withdrawal and introversion can be overcome to a degree.

The person might have a strong desire to connect and communicate, but it feels like an uphill battle. The friend or partner who has nice synastry with them can draw them out of their shell. However, this will be pretty difficult, even for them...

posted September 01, 2020 08:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
A lot of things have already been mentioned... but something I‘ve personally noticed is... having the more sociable planets - Mercury and Venus - retrograde... or totally unaspected in the natal chart.

When there are very close, significant aspects to these planets in the synastry chart... this kind of withdrawal and introversion can be overcome to a degree.

The person might have a strong desire to connect and communicate, but it feels like an uphill battle. The friend or partner who has nice synastry with them can draw them out of their shell. However, this will be pretty difficult, even for them...

Someone who doesn’t have close synastry aspects with the individual’s natal Venus and/or Mercury Rx (or unaspected)— can see them almost like an alien from outer space... as though they could never really connect, because the person seems so unreachable.

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This kind of describes me. I have Saturn square Mercury, Jupiter, and Pluto (the ruler of my chart), all widely. Moon conjunct Venus and the South Node, square Mars in Pisces (generally quiet/calm), trine Pluto, sextile Jupiter, inconjunct Uranus/ascendant. I was outgoing until a certain age, and Pluto crossing my ascendant didn't help.