posted August 22, 2016 12:39 PM            

This happens to be in a woman's chart.

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posted August 22, 2016 02:39 PM            

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posted August 23, 2016 01:15 PM            

It's a constant struggle between doing what feels right vs doing what is right logically :/ Growing up, I had to learn to be okay with feeling bad for choosing logical decisions or just believing in my intuition and trust my gut feeling.

posted August 23, 2016 01:33 PM            

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posted August 24, 2016 12:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What does this feel like from the inside? Thanks

This happens to be in a woman's chart.

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I have moon in Scorpio and I have moon square Saturn. To me this is double whammy. The moon is already in a delicate, complicated position but to add Moon square Saturn it makes it even more complicated.

Having moon square Saturn feels like having an imaginary creature in your head stalking and harassing you. This creature tells you that you are not good enough,points out all your "flaws" on a consistent basis and forbids you from being happy. The thing for me is I know that most of this negative self talk isn't real/is imaginary but at the same time I still believe it. Pretty irrational right?

Physically I think its makes me feel so isolated emotionally. It stops me from crying, even the times when I really want/need to. It gives me constant psychosomatic stomachaches (due to me constantly pushing down emotions).

Lastly I feel trapped in myself. My Scorpio moon has trust issues and moon square Saturn freezes and paralyzes all that Scorpio passion/emotions a bit. This translates to reluctance to show genuine emotions even among family, emotional turmoil masquerading as aloofness/"strength"

posted August 24, 2016 01:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
my niece has that in her chart. i dont know what is inside of her head but she did share with me that she always thought her mother ( my sister) does not love her enough and she thought her mother gives her preference to her son, my niece's brother. I know my sister loves her daughter more than her own life, but my niece does not believe/feel that. I think only recently after she grew up, she realized how much her mother loves her.

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posted August 24, 2016 03:33 AM            

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Originally posted by @lycat74:
I have moon in Scorpio and I have moon square Saturn. To me this is double whammy. The moon is already in a delicate, complicated position but to add Moon square Saturn it makes it even more complicated.

Having moon square Saturn feels like having an imaginary creature in your head stalking and harassing you. This creature tells you that you are not good enough,points out all your "flaws" on a consistent basis and forbids you from being happy. The thing for me is I know that most of this negative self talk isn't real/is imaginary but at the same time I still believe it. Pretty irrational right?

Physically I think its makes me feel so isolated emotionally. It stops me from crying, even the times when I really want/need to. It gives me constant psychosomatic stomachaches (due to me constantly pushing down emotions).

Lastly I feel trapped in myself. My Scorpio moon has trust issues and moon square Saturn freezes and paralyzes all that Scorpio passion/emotions a bit. This translates to reluctance to show genuine emotions even among family, emotional turmoil masquerading as aloofness/"strength"

The funny thing about all this is I have easy aspects to my moon too (Moon trine Venus, moon sextile Uranus, Jupiter, & Neptune). This is partially why I can call moon square Saturn an imaginary creature. I recognize the irrationality/exaggeration of the negativity square Saturn brings.

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Oh man that sounds terrible. I hope you have someone in your life that supports you emotionally.

My girl has a Scorpio moon as well that squares her Saturn in Aquarius. I feel she has so much emotion bottling up insider her and i wish she would just let it out but she "acts" like everything is "ok."

Me having my Saturn in Scorpio conj her Moon, i believe doesn't help.

posted August 24, 2016 04:20 AM            

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Originally posted by cchampliss2:
This bums me out to read some of this stuff because I have a niece with this same aspect, too. Taurus moon Aquarius Saturn, but a Pisces sun. I can already see her beginning to cover up her tenderness.

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posted August 24, 2016 04:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Gemini30:
Oh man that sounds terrible. I hope you have someone in your life that supports you emotionally.

My girl has a Scorpio moon as well that squares her Saturn in Aquarius. I feel she has so much emotion bottling up insider her and i wish she would just let it out but she "acts" like everything is "ok."

Me having my Saturn in Scorpio conj her Moon, i believe doesn't help.

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posted August 24, 2016 02:37 PM            

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Originally posted by @lycat74:
Just be there. Listen to her, if you can don't give her advice/try to fix things. Support and love her.

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posted August 24, 2016 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Gemini30:
Thank you so much for your advice.

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posted August 25, 2016 01:26 PM            

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Originally posted by @lycat74:
I have moon in Scorpio and I have moon square Saturn. To me this is double whammy. The moon is already in a delicate, complicated position but to add Moon square Saturn it makes it even more complicated.

Having moon square Saturn feels like having an imaginary creature in your head stalking and harassing you. This creature tells you that you are not good enough,points out all your "flaws" on a consistent basis and forbids you from being happy. The thing for me is I know that most of this negative self talk isn't real/is imaginary but at the same time I still believe it. Pretty irrational right?

Physically I think its makes me feel so isolated emotionally. It stops me from crying, even the times when I really want/need to. It gives me constant psychosomatic stomachaches (due to me constantly pushing down emotions).

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Spot on. My double wammy is my Cappy Moon. I thought I had psychopathic tendencies for the longest time. Luckily, this got better after my Saturn Return. I've losen up a lot and even though I'm a bit on the cold side, I don't feel "dead" anymore and much comfortable expressing my emotions - although still a long way to go. This has also greatly helped that "stalking" creature, I've learned not to listen to it anymore, as it's proven to be completely useless.

posted August 25, 2016 03:35 PM            

Still, I wanted to add my two cents because I feel like, even with the "easy" Saturn aspects, there's still struggle. Saturn is never going to be easy. I just think the soft aspects make you beat yourself up less viciously and feel like less of a blockage.

I don't feel emotionally blocked. In fact, with that elevated Moon, I do strive to be seen as emotionally accessible and available. I don't even mind being vulnerable, in a general sense. That really comes into play with performing or acting or something. I can cry and emote while performing very easily, mostly because it feels like a "job" (10th House Moon/MC) and it also focuses on someone else, for the most part; a "character". Basically, I'm very supportive of other people's emotions and needs but it's not easy for me to receive that support as much, just for myself. Then, most of the time, I'm just like, "Ah, get away from me!" or I'm even vaguely insulted.

I didn't get much comfort as a child and was forced to learn how to take care of myself emotionally. Whenever I was hurting or crying, I had to just deal with it on my own because I wasn't raised by emotionally healthy or mature people. That's a big thing with Moon-Saturn people: growing up feeling like we have to raise ourselves, sometimes in terms of our feelings and sometimes just in terms of practical needs. So, it's our instinct to withdraw in some way and just to tend ourselves when we're not feeling good. In some ways, we just NEED that. So, sometimes, a Moon-Saturn person just needs you to respect their need to be self-sufficient. That can often be the best way to show you care about us.

I think, because of the sextile, I can generally take a healthy approach to this. I still have my barriers, sometimes, in terms of truly letting someone into my personal life and letting them help me, for no other reason than caring for me. That is very rare. But, I will let them down for a very special person. I feel like those with the square would struggle with letting them down for ANYONE, which can, of course, be horribly isolating.

Also, even though I'm tough and everything, I am still quite gentle and sensitive with myself. It's more so about being strong in front of everyone else while still honoring my softer side. But, I think Moon square Saturn is super-tough on themselves, to the point where they really struggle to let their soft side out or acknowledge it.

posted August 26, 2016 12:49 AM            

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Originally posted by @lycat74:
I have moon in Scorpio and I have moon square Saturn. To me this is double whammy. The moon is already in a delicate, complicated position but to add Moon square Saturn it makes it even more complicated.

Having moon square Saturn feels like having an imaginary creature in your head stalking and harassing you. This creature tells you that you are not good enough,points out all your "flaws" on a consistent basis and forbids you from being happy. The thing for me is I know that most of this negative self talk isn't real/is imaginary but at the same time I still believe it. Pretty irrational right?

Physically I think its makes me feel so isolated emotionally. It stops me from crying, even the times when I really want/need to. It gives me constant psychosomatic stomachaches (due to me constantly pushing down emotions).

Lastly I feel trapped in myself. My Scorpio moon has trust issues and moon square Saturn freezes and paralyzes all that Scorpio passion/emotions a bit. This translates to reluctance to show genuine emotions even among family, emotional turmoil masquerading as aloofness/"strength"

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I also have Scorpio moon square Saturn and can relate strongly to this. It is also part of a t-square with Neptune, Venus and Mercury.. (Perhaps even a grand cross if you stretch the orb to 7deg- with Mars//Uranus).

I certainly have the mad dog in my head that never tires of pointing out my flaws. It was debilitating when I was young but I have had to really learn that old wisdom about "you are not your thoughts" which has helped me cope better over time.

posted August 26, 2016 02:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Lehia2:
Spot on. My double wammy is my Cappy Moon. I thought I had psychopathic tendencies for the longest time. Luckily, this got better after my Saturn Return. I've losen up a lot and even though I'm a bit on the cold side, I don't feel "dead" anymore and much comfortable expressing my emotions - although still a long way to go. This has also greatly helped that "stalking" creature, I've learned not to listen to it anymore, as it's proven to be completely useless.

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Damn then you are like super saiyan Moon in Capricorn person. I am sorry Did anything happen in your Saturn Return that made you loosen up?

Moon Square Saturn definitely does have Moon in Capricorn undertones. Random but this is why I attract so much damn Moon in Capricorn friends (sooo friggin' crazy ironic).

posted August 26, 2016 02:16 AM            

So turn, there are no easy Saturn placements. That reminds of something Liz Green said in her book, Saturn: A New Look at an Old Devil. BTW check it out anyone who hasn't.

Your quotes:

"I'm very supportive of other people's emotions and needs but it's not easy for me to receive that support as much, just for myself."

"I didn't get much comfort as a child and was forced to learn how to take care of myself emotionally. Whenever I was hurting or crying, I had to just deal with it on my own because I wasn't raised by emotionally healthy or mature people. That's a big thing with Moon-Saturn people: growing up feeling like we have to raise ourselves, sometimes in terms of our feelings"

posted August 30, 2016 12:16 AM            

My moon Squ sa aspect is in my 7th house and that used to make me shy but sometimes I force myself to be outgoing and I've improved a lot
But just the fact that I have to continuously force myself to talk to strangers tells you theirs a lack of confidence in my abilities etc